Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)

Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:50:18 -0800

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Bob Berry,
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Just checking:  Does "all supported customers" in this context (6 month =
trial) include those on the AS/400?
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Thanks.
=20
David Morrison
McBride Electric
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Berry, Robert [mailto:Bob.Berry@cognos.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:37 AM
To: 'Tim Cummings'; Deskin, Bob; '"Selfors, Bj=F8rn"'; =
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING =
!)
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Tim,
=20
My initial answer to your question was a simple "NO".
=20
However, one has to recognize that Cognos is the dominant BI software =
company in the world. They have a marketing strategy for this side of =
the business and are seeing great results.  I believe that some of the =
best marketing that any company can do is by word of mouth and by list =
servers such as this.  In many ways this forum is one of the best =
exposure areas for topical discussions on the problems and opportunities =
that we all face.  Perhaps limited in scope but powerful in getting news =
out to the legion of PH supporters.
=20
I was asked earlier "what does 6 months mean".  Let me explain:  In the =
package that all supported customers will receive will be the following.
=20
        The latest version of PH on the appropriate platform.
=20
        PowerHouse Web and AXiant will be included.  You will be asked =
to call Cognos for a Temporary license key that will allow you to use =
both or either products for a six month period.  Upon completion of the =
trial you will have the choice to either keep the software for the price =
of support or discontinue using it.
=20
I hope that this helps anyone and everyone in their future plans =
regarding PowerHouse.
=20
Bob Berry
Director ADT Development/
Customer Operations
Tel.  1-781-313-2270
-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Tim Cummings
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:08 AM
To: 'Deskin, Bob'; '"Selfors, Bj=F8rn"'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING =
!)
Bob,
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Is there a reason that Cognos does not advertise PH?
=20
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:34 AM
To: '"Selfors, Bj=F8rn"'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING =
!)
We have published a date for PowerHouse on MPE/iX. We did so very soon =
after HP's announcement. As previously announced PowerHouse on MPE/iX =
will be supported until Dec 31, 2006. We have also matured PowerHouse on =
VAX (due to HP's end of life on VAX), and on AS/400 and Tru64 (due to =
business reasons). We have updated the supported products list on the =
support.cognos.com web site to include these dates.=20
=20
All other platforms, OpenVMS Alpha, UNIX (HP-UX, AIX, Solaris), and =
Windows NT/2000/XP are fully supported.
=20
Don't ask me how long PowerHouse will be supported on those platforms =
because there is no end-of-support date. If there's business, it will go =
on forever. If not, we will make that decision based on the business at =
the time.
=20
Hopefully you saw Cognos' announcement of their annual results. =
Application Development Tools' revenue for our last fiscal year was =
about 29.5 million dollars US. That is not insignificant. We're not =
going away any time soon.
Bob Deskin             =20
Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.=20
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178=20
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA=20
-----Original Message-----
From: "Selfors, Bj=F8rn" [mailto:Bjorn.Selfors@bergen.kommune.no]=20
Sent: March 30, 2004 2:50 AM
To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: SV: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING =
!)
HP has been honest and given us the 3000-date, Dec 31, 2006. =20
What about Cognos?  Will they give us the PowerHouse-date soon?
"We have no plans for that" they probably say, but what are the Cognos =
plans for PH?   No marketing for years, that gives us a clue!  I think =
you know Bob, are Cognos going to let it slowly die, or are you going to =
be straight and give us the date?
Bj=F8rn Selfors =20
-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]
Sendt: 29. mars 2004 22:18
Til: 'Bill D Michael'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'
Emne: RE: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)
We've had a version on Windows for years. We've had articles in =
SupportLink. It's mentioned on the PowerHouse web site (which is =
somewhat out of date but not that out of date).
It's full PowerHouse including QUICK.=20
Bob=20
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Subject: RE: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING =
!)=20

>How well are sales of PH on the windows platform?  Do you have any data =

>on=20
that?=20
You mean there IS a version that runs on Windows? How is anyone supposed =
to know that? Is this buried somewhere in the Cognos web site? =
Advertised in all the major media? What are the specs? Advantages? =
Missing features?
:-(=20
Bill=20
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checking:<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Does &#8220;all =
supported
customers&#8221; in this context (6 month trial) include those on the =
AS/400?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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Message----- 
From: Berry, Robert =
[mailto:Bob.Berry@cognos.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, =
2004 7:37
AM 
To: 'Tim Cummings'; =
Deskin, Bob;
'&quot;Selfors, Bj=F8rn&quot;'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com 
Subject: RE: Current =
Challenges
etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)

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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Tim,</span></font=
><font
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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>My initial =
answer to your
question was a simple &quot;NO&quot;.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>However, one has =
to
recognize that Cognos is the dominant BI software company in the =
world.&nbsp;They
have a marketing strategy for this side of the business and are seeing =
great
results.&nbsp; I believe that some of the best marketing that any =
company can
do is by word of mouth and by list servers such as this.&nbsp; In many =
ways
this forum is one of the best exposure areas for topical discussions on =
the
problems and opportunities that we all face.&nbsp; Perhaps limited in =
scope but
powerful in getting news out to the legion of PH =
supporters.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I was asked =
earlier
&quot;what does 6 months mean&quot;.&nbsp; Let me explain:&nbsp; In the =
package
that all supported customers will receive will be the =
following.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The latest version of PH on the =
appropriate
platform.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>PowerHouse Web and AXiant will be =
included.&nbsp;
You will be asked to call Cognos for a Temporary license key that will =
allow
you to use both or either products for a six month period.&nbsp; Upon
completion of the trial you will have the choice to either keep the =
software
for the price of support or discontinue using it.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I hope that this =
helps
anyone and everyone in their future plans regarding =
PowerHouse.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bob =
Berry</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Director ADT =
Development/</span></font><font
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[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Tim Cummings 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, =
2004
10:08 AM 
To: 'Deskin, Bob'; =
'&quot;Selfors,
Bj=F8rn&quot;'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com 
Subject: RE: Current =
Challenges
etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bob,</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Is there a reason that Cognos does =
not
advertise PH?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Deskin, Bob
[mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, =
2004 9:34
AM 
To: '&quot;Selfors, =
Bj=F8rn&quot;';
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com 
Subject: RE: Current =
Challenges
etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

We have published a date for =
PowerHouse on
MPE/iX. We did so very soon after HP's announcement. As previously =
announced
PowerHouse on MPE/iX will be supported until Dec 31, 2006. We have also =
matured
PowerHouse on VAX (due to HP's end of life on VAX),&nbsp;and on AS/400 =
and Tru64
(due to business reasons). We have updated the supported products =
list&nbsp;on
the support.cognos.com web site to include these dates. =
<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>All other platforms, OpenVMS Alpha, =
UNIX
(HP-UX, AIX, Solaris), and Windows NT/2000/XP are fully =
supported.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

Don't ask me how long PowerHouse =
will be
supported on those platforms&nbsp;because there is no end-of-support =
date. If
there's business, it will go on forever. If not, we will make that =
decision
based on the business at the time.<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

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margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

Hopefully you saw Cognos' =
announcement of
their annual results. Application Development Tools' revenue for our =
last
fiscal year was about 29.5 million dollars US. That is not =
insignificant. We're
not going away any time soon.<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><!-- Converted =
from text/rtf format -->Bob
Deskin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>
Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. <br>
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 <br>
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

-----Original Message----- 
From: &quot;Selfors, =
Bj=F8rn&quot;
[mailto:Bjorn.Selfors@bergen.kommune.no] 
Sent: March 30, 2004 2:50 =
AM 
To: Deskin, Bob;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com 
Subject: SV: Current =
Challenges
etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;col=
or:blue;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>HP has been honest and given us the 3000-date, =
</span></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;mso-ansi-language:=
EN-GB'>Dec
31, 2006.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;mso-ansi-language:=
EN-GB'>What
about Cognos?<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Will they =
give us
the PowerHouse-date soon?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoBodyText style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>&quot;We have no plans for =
that&quot; they
probably say, but what are the Cognos plans for PH?<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun:
yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>No marketing for years, that gives us a =
clue!<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I think you know Bob, are =
Cognos going
to let it slowly die, or are you going to be straight and give us the =
date?</span></font><font
color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Bj=F8rn =
Selfors&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

-----Opprinnelig melding----- 
Fra: Deskin, Bob
[mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM] 
Sendt: 29. mars 2004 =
22:18 
Til: 'Bill D Michael';
'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' 
Emne: RE: Current =
Challenges etc.
in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

We've had a version on Windows =
for years.
We've had articles in SupportLink. It's mentioned on the PowerHouse web =
site
(which is somewhat out of date but not that out of =
date).<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>It's full PowerHouse including =
QUICK.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Bob</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

-----Original =
Message----- 
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [<a
href=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-admin@lis=
ts.sowder.com</a>]
On Behalf Of Bill D Michael 
Sent: March 29, 2004 3:04 PM 
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' 
Subject: RE: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse =
World
(SHRINKING !) <o:p></o:p><=
/p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
<br>
<br>
<br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
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<![endif]></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
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<p style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&gt;How well are sales of PH on =
the
windows platform?&nbsp; Do you have any data </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>&gt;on</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>that?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

You mean there IS a version that =
runs on
Windows? How is anyone supposed to know that? Is this buried somewhere =
in the
Cognos web site? Advertised in all the major media? What are the specs?
Advantages? Missing features?<o:p></o:p><=
/p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>:-(</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Bill</span></font><font =
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style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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