Migrating PowerHouse from VMS to NT

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just one more minor point,  RE 'OpenVMS version features will not be
available to you', the only significant feature I can only think of is
mailboxes ( all 8.4 platforms will have a POW interface )

-----Original Message-----
From: Boyle, Joe [mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]
Sent: 01 March 2002 08:49
To: 'Edis, Bob'; PowerHouse List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Migrating PowerHouse from VMS to NT

Hi all, 

just one minor point, PH 8.4 for NT/Windows will have the quick terminal
interface, due out around July. 

regards, 
Joe Boyle. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Edis, Bob [ mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org <mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org> ] 
Sent: 13 February 2002 19:07 
To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) 
Subject: RE: Migrating PowerHouse from VMS to NT 

G'day George 

I have not converted an OpenVMS app to Windows NT but I have worked in both 
environments. 

Problem 1 - the Windows NT version of PowerHouse has no terminal interface 
so you need to use either PowerHouse Web or Axiant.  Of these Axiant offers 
the best re-use of your existing code but in either case there is a LOT of 
work to do.  With PowerHouse Web you may have to re-think the whole 
application interface.  Even with Axiant issue such as aesthetics can bog 
you down. 

Problem 2 - many OpenVMS version features will not be available to you under

Windows NT.  You will need to identify these and re-write the code 
accordingly.  If you will be using a SQL type database such as MS SQL Server

using embedded SQL in the code will significantly enhance performance. 

I don't know what box you are running OpenVMS on but there is NO Windows NT 
machine that comes close to a contemporary AlphaServer.  Also given that 
Compaq is porting OpenVMS to the Itanium processor (64 bit from Intel) it 
will mean that OpenVMS has a long life and will run on boxes produced by HP,

IDM, Compaq, Dell, whoever as long as it is an Itanium.  Being that OpenVMS 
is 64 bit and it will be awhile before Microsoft produce a version of NT 
that is not a patched-up version of the 32 bit OS, OpenVMS is a much better 
strategic platform for the future for high-power applications.  Purchase 
costs difference will be insignificant and you can retain your in-house 
OpenVMS expertise.  Clustering of OpenVMS systems is light years ahead of 
Windows NT clustering.  No-one has ever successfully hacked into an OpenVMS 
system without having a privileged account and viruses are not written for 
this OS, unlike for Windows NT.  

Regards, 
Blue 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nekolny, George B. [ mailto:george.nekolny@denverwater.org
<mailto:george.nekolny@denverwater.org> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:35 PM 
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' 
Subject: Migrating PowerHouse from VMS to NT 

        We currently have a number of applications running on PH 7.10.G3, 
VMS.  We are considering on migrating to PowerHouse on NT.  From some 
initial inquiries I have been informed that QUIZ and QTP will port over with

no problems.  QUICK (Qdesign), however, will require some rewriting due to 
differences is presentation.  I have been led to believe that about 20% of 
the code will have to be re-written, but was given no specifics.  Is there 
anyone out there that has covered this same ground who could shed some light

on the conversion process?  If there is, I'd like to know your experiences 
and some of the pit-falls. 

George B. Nekolny 
Denver Water Dept. 
(303) 628-6243 
George.Nekolny@denverwater.org 

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<DIV>just 
one more minor point,&nbsp; RE 'OpenVMS version features will not be available 
to you', the only significant feature I can only think of is mailboxes ( all 8.4 
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 <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr>-----Original Message----- From: Boyle, Joe 
 [mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com] Sent: 01 March 2002 
 08:49 To: 'Edis, Bob'; PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: 
 RE: Migrating PowerHouse from VMS to NT </DIV>
 Hi all, 
 just one minor point, PH 8.4 for NT/Windows will have the 
 quick terminal interface, due out around July. 
 regards, Joe Boyle. 
 -----Original Message----- From: Edis, 
 Bob [<A href="mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org">mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org</A>] 
 Sent: 13 February 2002 19:07 To: 
 PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Migrating 
 PowerHouse from VMS to NT 
 G'day George 
 I have not converted an OpenVMS app to Windows NT but I have 
 worked in both environments. 
 Problem 1 - the Windows NT version of PowerHouse has no 
 terminal interface so you need to use either 
 PowerHouse Web or Axiant.&nbsp; Of these Axiant offers the best re-use of your existing code but in either case there is a LOT 
 of work to do.&nbsp; With PowerHouse Web you may have 
 to re-think the whole application interface.&nbsp; 
 Even with Axiant issue such as aesthetics can bog you 
 down. 
 Problem 2 - many OpenVMS version features will not be 
 available to you under Windows NT.&nbsp; You will need 
 to identify these and re-write the code accordingly.&nbsp; If you will be using a SQL type database such as MS 
 SQL Server using embedded SQL in the code will 
 significantly enhance performance. 
 I don't know what box you are running OpenVMS on but there is 
 NO Windows NT machine that comes close to a 
 contemporary AlphaServer.&nbsp; Also given that Compaq 
 is porting OpenVMS to the Itanium processor (64 bit from Intel) it 
 will mean that OpenVMS has a long life and will run on boxes 
 produced by HP, IDM, Compaq, Dell, whoever as long as 
 it is an Itanium.&nbsp; Being that OpenVMS is 64 bit 
 and it will be awhile before Microsoft produce a version of NT 
 that is not a patched-up version of the 32 bit OS, OpenVMS is 
 a much better strategic platform for the future for 
 high-power applications.&nbsp; Purchase costs 
 difference will be insignificant and you can retain your in-house 
 OpenVMS expertise.&nbsp; Clustering of OpenVMS systems is 
 light years ahead of Windows NT clustering.&nbsp; 
 No-one has ever successfully hacked into an OpenVMS system without having a privileged account and viruses are not written 
 for this OS, unlike for Windows NT.&nbsp; 
 Regards, Blue 
 -----Original Message----- From: 
 Nekolny, George B. [<A 
 href="mailto:george.nekolny@denverwater.org">mailto:george.nekolny@denverwater.org</A>] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:35 PM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: 
 Migrating PowerHouse from VMS to NT 
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We currently have a 
 number of applications running on PH 7.10.G3, VMS.&nbsp; We are considering on migrating to PowerHouse on NT.&nbsp; 
 From some initial inquiries I have been informed that 
 QUIZ and QTP will port over with no problems.&nbsp; 
 QUICK (Qdesign), however, will require some rewriting due to differences is presentation.&nbsp; I have been led to believe that 
 about 20% of the code will have to be re-written, but 
 was given no specifics.&nbsp; Is there anyone out 
 there that has covered this same ground who could shed some light 
 on the conversion process?&nbsp; If there is, I'd like to 
 know your experiences and some of the 
 pit-falls. 
 George B. Nekolny Denver Water 
 Dept. (303) 628-6243 George.Nekolny@denverwater.org 
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