--------------040703060805000106090003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This has been an interesting discussion. Is PH dead? Is PH on life support? Is there a future in PH? If all you want to work on is maintenance then you should be fine, for a while. People have pointed out that this market is shrinking. If you want more out of your career, PH will not be providing it. As Sam pointed out, knowing PH does you little good in todays market. As he has discovered, you'll likely have to spend your own money retraining your self so you can shift to new possibilities. Start NOW! If your lucky, you'll be involved with the shift your company will take when it leaves PH. My main problem with PH is its limited distribution and interesting job possibilities. I took my current job to learn new skills that have value to a long career. As developers I think you have to be selfish enough to think of your career first, and your attraction to PH later, much later. Darren David Morrison - Corporate wrote: > Sam, > > > > We utilize PH on the AS/400 (now iSeries), here in San Diego. We're > almost certainly the only PH-AS/400 shop in the county, and maybe the > only PH shop of any platform left in the county (no PHWeb for us, of > course). > > > > The AS/400 is kind of like PH - it's got a lot of advantages, but is > seen as old and proprietary by many. > > > > David Morrison > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam DeLeese [mailto:sdeleese@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:40 AM > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: Is PH dead? > > > > Is PowerHouse Dead? Empirical evidence here in Southern California > would suggest that if it is not already dead, it is certainly on life > support. I was laid off last November, and I think I can count on one > hand, (okay, maybe both) the number of PH jobs that have been > advertised. Most of these jobs also required knowledge of Oracle or > Manman, neither of which I have. But the point is, there are vitually > no jobs in SoCal for PH programmers. I was working in an Alpha shop, > and for the last year and a half, I was working almost exclusively > with PHWeb. The new management at this company, which laid me off, > has also decided that they do not want to develop anymore web apps > with PHWeb. They think it is too proprietary, they want something > more open. They think it will easier for them to hire web programmers > if what they are developing in is more main stream. Anyway, I am > beginning my 8th month of this lay off, and I! have had one phone > interview for a potential PHWeb position (the company was thinking > about purchasing PHWeb, they didn't) and 1 face-to-face interview for > a PH programming job, but my lack of knowledge of Manman ultimately > sunk me. I am going to be beginning classes soon to get a certificate > in Oracle DBA and programming. I learned Powerhouse back when Cognos > was still known as Quasar. I love PH and PHWeb, but for every 1 PH > ad, there are at least 15 Oracle ads. What are you going to do? I > have over 15 years of experience with PH on both OpenVMS and MPE > platforms, and I feel as if I am an endangered species, almost extinct. > > If anyone in SoCal reads this, I would love to hear your take on the > current job market for PH programmers. > > > > > > Regards, > Sam DeLeese > sdeleese@deleeseconsulting.com > visit us at WWW.DELEESECONSULTING.COM > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! <http://rd.yahoo.com/welcome/*http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com> - > Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > --------------040703060805000106090003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This has been an interesting discussion. Is PH dead? Is PH on life support? Is there a future in PH?
If all you want to work on is maintenance then you should be fine, for a while. People have pointed out that this market is shrinking.
If you want more out of your career, PH will not be providing it. As Sam pointed out, knowing PH does you little good in todays market. As he has discovered, you'll likely have to spend your own money retraining your self so you can shift to new possibilities. Start NOW!
If your lucky, you'll be involved with the shift your company will take when it leaves PH.
My main problem with PH is its limited distribution and interesting job possibilities. I took my current job to learn new skills that have value to a long career. As developers I think you have to be selfish enough to think of your career first, and your attraction to PH later, much later.
Darren
David Morrison - Corporate wrote:
Sam,
We utilize PH on the AS/400 (now iSeries), here in San Diego. We’re almost certainly the only PH-AS/400 shop in the county, and maybe the only PH shop of any platform left in the county (no PHWeb for us, of course).
The AS/400 is kind of like PH – it’s got a lot of advantages, but is seen as old and proprietary by many.
David Morrison
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam DeLeese [mailto:sdeleese@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:40 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Is PH dead?
Is PowerHouse Dead? Empirical evidence here in Southern California would suggest that if it is not already dead, it is certainly on life support. I was laid off last November, and I think I can count on one hand, (okay, maybe both) the number of PH jobs that have been advertised. Most of these jobs also required knowledge of Oracle or Manman, neither of which I have. But the point is, there are vitually no jobs in SoCal for PH programmers. I was working in an Alpha shop, and for the last year and a half, I was working almost exclusively with PHWeb. The new management at this company, which laid me off, has also decided that they do not want to develop anymore web apps with PHWeb. They think it is too proprietary, they want something more open. They think it will easier for them to hire web programmers if what they are developing in is more main stream. Anyway, I am beginning my 8th month of this lay off, and I! have had one phone interview for a potential PHWeb position (the company was thinking about purchasing PHWeb, they didn't) and 1 face-to-face interview for a PH programming job, but my lack of knowledge of Manman ultimately sunk me. I am going to be beginning classes soon to get a certificate in Oracle DBA and programming. I learned Powerhouse back when Cognos was still known as Quasar. I love PH and PHWeb, but for every 1 PH ad, there are at least 15 Oracle ads. What are you going to do? I have over 15 years of experience with PH on both OpenVMS and MPE platforms, and I feel as if I am an endangered species, almost extinct.
If anyone in SoCal reads this, I would love to hear your take on the current job market for PH programmers.
Regards,
Sam DeLeese
sdeleese@deleeseconsulting.com
visit us at WWW.DELEESECONSULTING.COM
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