PH future
Karen Barrett
kbarrett00 at hotmail.com
Tue May 1 15:46:29 CDT 2012
We use a PH system for 24/7 WIP. Been running great since the 80's and still developing on it. By my calculation, it would cost 2 - 5M to replace. Inexpensive to maintain. With that kind of financial incentive, PH will be around a long time. As for the programmers getting grey, PH is easy to learn.
Karen
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> 1. Re:Is there a future for PowerHouse? (Bob Deskin)
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> From: Bob Deskin <Bob.Deskin at ca.ibm.com>
> Subject: Re: Is there a future for PowerHouse?
> To: JA Vaughn Smith <javrsmith at gmail.com>
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> Vaughn told about his plan to post this. I explained that I can only reply
> with public information and clarification. I cannot express my opinions
> nor can I offer any conjecture. As you probably know, I've been working
> with PowerHouse since 1980 and I have very little gray hair. I have no
> idea if the two are related.
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> Regarding the AS/400 version, Cognos matured PowerHouse on AS/400 in 1994.
> It has been on Vintage Support ever since. While Vintage Support does not
> provide for any development support, it does allow customers with a legal
> support requirement to continue to use PowerHouse. PowerHouse on MPE/iX is
> also on Vintage Support. A full list of the supported versions can be
> found here:
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=3528&uid=swg27014713 and our
> supported software environments here:
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=3626&uid=swg27014142
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> Bob
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> Bob Deskin
> Senior Product Manager
> IBM Cognos Application Development Tools
> IBM Canada
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> http://www.ibm.com/software/data/cognos/products/powerhouse/
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> From: JA Vaughn Smith <javrsmith at gmail.com>
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> Date: 2012-05-01 10:12 AM
> Subject: Is there a future for PowerHouse?
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> I have been back on an OpenVMS system using PowerHouse, (PH), for 4 months
> now. In that time, I have been re-amazed at the things I can do with
> Qdesign, QTP and Quiz. Before this year, I did some work learning PHP and
> Python with mySQL, typical Windows development tools. PH has them beat
> from a productivity standpoint, and not by just a bit either.
>
> Realistically, what future does PowerHouse have? The products are 30+
> years old but they still perfrom quite well on the right hardware. With
> the exception of Unix and Windows, they run on antiquated hardware,
> though. The HP 3000 MPE is done; HP offers help to move these sites to
> Unix or Windows platforms. OpenVMS sites can move to HP Itanium machines
> which are about 12 years old and have a very uncertain future. PH used to
> run on IBM AS/400. What's up with that these days? Unix and Windows remain
> viable platforms for PowerHouse deployment since you can actually buy
> modern servers from various manufacturers.
>
> What about the future of PowerHouse itself? IBM has stated that PH will
> remain supported as long asit makes business sense. That said, there are
> no future updates planned at this time. The longstanding problems remain:
> only 31 files in a Qdesign screen
> popular databases are unsupported, (mySQL, others?)
> PH Windows uses ODBC 2.5 from 1994. Version 3.8 is now current.
> POW, the automated interface to the PDL dictionary, ships with OpenVMS
> only
> PH screens look old. Users must learn specific keyboard commands
> Web interface must be done with the PH Web add on which generates code
> that usually requires further modifications to address design
> requirements.
> poor runtime error notifications
> very limited number of PH sites, and declining
> extremely limited number of Axiant sites
> many, (most, all?), PH programmers have grey hair
> It is my belief that IBM has a great product with PowerHouse. I also
> believe that they barely understand this fact and that the corporation
> purchased Cognos for the great business intelligence tools,mainly. The
> PowerHouse business has to have seen substantial decline for IBM over the
> years. How many more sites can convert to other development environments,
> reducing IBM's revenue, before they shut down Cognos?
> Sincerely,
> Vaughn Smith
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