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We use a PH system for 24/7 WIP. Been running great since the 80's and still developing on it. By my calculation, it would cost 2 - 5M to replace. Inexpensive to maintain. With that kind of financial incentive, PH will be around a long time. As for the programmers getting grey, PH is easy to learn.<div><br></div><div>Karen<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> From: powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com<br>> Subject: powerh-l Digest, Vol 83, Issue 2<br>> To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:00:03 -0500<br>> <br>> Send powerh-l mailing list submissions to<br>> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> powerh-l-owner@lists.sowder.com<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of powerh-l digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re:Is there a future for PowerHouse? (Bob Deskin)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:05:22 -0400<br>> From: Bob Deskin <Bob.Deskin@ca.ibm.com><br>> Subject: Re: Is there a future for PowerHouse?<br>> To: JA Vaughn Smith <javrsmith@gmail.com><br>> Cc: powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=ca.ibm.com@lists.sowder.com,<br>> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <OF9BB2767D.BCC800A4-ON852579F1.005205FE-852579F1.0052E4B0@ca.ibm.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"<br>> <br>> Vaughn told about his plan to post this. I explained that I can only reply <br>> with public information and clarification. I cannot express my opinions <br>> nor can I offer any conjecture. As you probably know, I've been working <br>> with PowerHouse since 1980 and I have very little gray hair. I have no <br>> idea if the two are related.<br>> <br>> Regarding the AS/400 version, Cognos matured PowerHouse on AS/400 in 1994. <br>> It has been on Vintage Support ever since. While Vintage Support does not <br>> provide for any development support, it does allow customers with a legal <br>> support requirement to continue to use PowerHouse. PowerHouse on MPE/iX is <br>> also on Vintage Support. A full list of the supported versions can be <br>> found here: <br>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=3528&uid=swg27014713 and our <br>> supported software environments here: <br>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=3626&uid=swg27014142<br>> <br>> Bob<br>> <br>> Bob Deskin<br>> Senior Product Manager<br>> IBM Cognos Application Development Tools<br>> IBM Canada<br>> +1 613-356-5633<br>> bob.deskin@ca.ibm.com<br>> http://www.ibm.com/software/data/cognos/products/powerhouse/<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: JA Vaughn Smith <javrsmith@gmail.com><br>> To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>> Date: 2012-05-01 10:12 AM<br>> Subject: Is there a future for PowerHouse?<br>> Sent by: powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=ca.ibm.com@lists.sowder.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> I have been back on an OpenVMS system using PowerHouse, (PH), for 4 months <br>> now. In that time, I have been re-amazed at the things I can do with <br>> Qdesign, QTP and Quiz. Before this year, I did some work learning PHP and <br>> Python with mySQL, typical Windows development tools. PH has them beat <br>> from a productivity standpoint, and not by just a bit either.<br>> <br>> Realistically, what future does PowerHouse have? The products are 30+ <br>> years old but they still perfrom quite well on the right hardware. With <br>> the exception of Unix and Windows, they run on antiquated hardware, <br>> though. The HP 3000 MPE is done; HP offers help to move these sites to <br>> Unix or Windows platforms. OpenVMS sites can move to HP Itanium machines <br>> which are about 12 years old and have a very uncertain future. PH used to <br>> run on IBM AS/400. What's up with that these days? Unix and Windows remain <br>> viable platforms for PowerHouse deployment since you can actually buy <br>> modern servers from various manufacturers.<br>> <br>> What about the future of PowerHouse itself? IBM has stated that PH will <br>> remain supported as long asit makes business sense. That said, there are <br>> no future updates planned at this time. The longstanding problems remain: <br>> only 31 files in a Qdesign screen<br>> popular databases are unsupported, (mySQL, others?)<br>> PH Windows uses ODBC 2.5 from 1994. Version 3.8 is now current.<br>> POW, the automated interface to the PDL dictionary, ships with OpenVMS <br>> only<br>> PH screens look old. Users must learn specific keyboard commands<br>> Web interface must be done with the PH Web add on which generates code <br>> that usually requires further modifications to address design <br>> requirements.<br>> poor runtime error notifications<br>> very limited number of PH sites, and declining<br>> extremely limited number of Axiant sites<br>> many, (most, all?), PH programmers have grey hair<br>> It is my belief that IBM has a great product with PowerHouse. I also <br>> believe that they barely understand this fact and that the corporation <br>> purchased Cognos for the great business intelligence tools,mainly. The <br>> PowerHouse business has to have seen substantial decline for IBM over the <br>> years. How many more sites can convert to other development environments, <br>> reducing IBM's revenue, before they shut down Cognos?<br>> Sincerely,<br>> Vaughn Smith<br>> Canada--<br>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =<br>> Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>> Subscribe: 'subscribe' in message body to <br>> powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com<br>> Unsubscribe: 'unsubscribe &lt;password&gt;' in message body to <br>> powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com<br>> http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l<br>> This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber.<br>> Add 'site:lists.sowder.com powerh-l' to your search terms to search the <br>> list archive at Google.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> --<br>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =<br>> Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>> Subscribe: &quot;subscribe&quot; in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com<br>> Unsubscribe: &quot;unsubscribe &lt;password&gt;&quot; in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com<br>> http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l<br>> This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber.<br>> Add 'site:lists.sowder.com powerh-l' to your search terms to search the list archive at Google.<br>> <br>> End of powerh-l Digest, Vol 83, Issue 2<br>> ***************************************<br></div></div> </div></body>
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