[HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
Deskin, Bob
Bob.Deskin at Cognos.COM
Fri Nov 30 09:34:38 CST 2007
I too remember those machines. I was stationed at a company who put
their punched cards through an IBM accounting machine after sorting them
on a sorter. Once they were verified, we sent them to the mainframe via
a remote station. All IBM machinery and computers. As I recall, the
computer was an IBM 360/85 with 16 meg of memory. Quite a large machine
in those days (circa 1974).
Tell that to your kids and they won't believe you.
Bob
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[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Tang
Sent: November 30, 2007 9:30 am
To: Guy Werry; powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
I remember the mentioned machines as IBM 421 and IBM 444, together witch
collator IBM 088, sorter IBM 084, reproducer 541 or so (connected to the
444 to punch cards with totals and so on). That was 1967 or so.
After that we got IBM computers with RPG, assembler, cobol, PL/1 and so
on. And not only hexadecimal (binary 8 4 2 1) but also octal (4 2 1).
Am I so old? Yes, a few years to go and I can retire.
F.J. Tang (Fred)
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Werry
Verzonden: vrijdag 30 november 2007 15:08
Aan: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
Onderwerp: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
IBM - related stories.
When I hired on in 1981 our paymaster was a crusty old WW II vetran ...
He had flown Beaufighters in Burma ... All low-level stuff, very
intense. As a consequence, he was not afraid of anything. Before going
into the pay office he had been the IBM tabulating machine expert, and
quite well known for his expertise. Then, in 1969 we had gotten
computers and he had gone into the pay office rather than transition.
The point of the story is that, until the day that he retired (1984, I
think), he stoutly maintained that we should scrap those (several
expletives deleted) computers and go BACK to the IBM tabulating
machines!
For those of you who aren't history geeks, the tabulating machines were
the predecessors to computers; they were very sophisticated calculators
(in a sense) which could actually be programmed using replacable ciruit
boards that were hard-wired for specific programs.
Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited.
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[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca at lists.sowder.com] On Behalf
Of Jeff Hoffman
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:30 PM
To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
Hey Guys
Isn't the old saying:
You will never get fired for buying IBM?
Jeff
At 07:08 AM 13/11/2007, you wrote:
>All I can say is BOB, get that next release out FAST please.
>
>I hope the powers-that-be at IBM realize what Powerhouse is and either
>keep it going or sell it off.
>I heard IBM sunk a ton of money into LINUX for the AS400....since we
>now run on Linux...I would hope that counts for something.
>Get QKView running on Windows AND Linux and IBM should be able to do
>something with it.
>
>Here's hoping there is an ADT future anyways.
>Ken
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com] On
>Behalf Of Guy Werry
>Sent: November 12, 2007 12:51 PM
>To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
>
>No, that's 5 billion for ALL of Cognos. That's 5 billion USD, so about
>$400 Canadian! (HEE HEE - it's good to be on the up-side!)
>
>Guy Werry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca at lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca at lists.sowder.com] On Behalf
>Of Dolliver, Joe
>Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:44 AM
>To: Charles Finley; Peter Bateman; powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
>
>5 Billion ? Small ? A relative term
>
>I wonder if the currency was Canadian, then it would be a large deal.
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-bounces+dolliverj=calvertnet.k12.md.us at lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+dolliverj=calvertnet.k12.md.us at lists.sowder.co
>m]
>On Behalf Of Charles Finley
>Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:23 PM
>To: 'Peter Bateman'; powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
>
>The Powerhouse business is a relatively small part of Cognos when
>compared with the BI assets. Therefore, from a purely practical point
>if view, it is not entirely obvious that the part of IBM that purchased
>the company care as much about Powerhouse.
>
>
>
>That said, the saving grace is that IBM does not seem to "pull the
plug"
>on any software product that produces recurring revenue. My guess is
>that they will do what they have done with Informix. They keep
>supporting it but they do not enhance it much. At the same time they
>offer substantial migration paths to other IBM offerings. What I mean
>is that they offer a comprehensive solution including tools and
>services to help customers change to some product and technologies that
>IBM considers sustainable in the current software markets.
>
>
>
>Charles Finley
>
>619-795-0720
>
>________________________________
>
>From: powerh-l-bounces+cfinley=xformix.com at lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+cfinley=xformix.com at lists.sowder.com] On
>Behalf Of Peter Bateman
>Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:09 AM
>To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
>
>
>
>Hi
>
> Given what Cognos has done recently to make PowerHouse
> more IBM friendly ( re-instating Informix as a supported
> database and adding DB2 functions to the AIX version)
> I doubt that IBM wants to pull the plug on PowerHouse.
>
>Regards,
>Peter
>
>
>
> > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
> > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:46:33 -0600
> > From: guy.werry at hbms.ca
> > To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> >
> > Yeah, that's pretty hard to say, isn't it? I'm sure that IBM has a
> > glut of development tools ... They're buying Cognos for the BI
> > products, for sure.
> > Sadly, yet another Canadian corporation being swallowed up by a
> > foreigner ...
> >
> > Mind you, quite a success story: from a smallish consulting company
> > with an in-house report writer to a 5 billion company in about 30
> > years? Not too shabby.
> >
> > Guy L. Werry
> > Senior Systems Analyst
> > Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca at lists.sowder.com
> > [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca at lists.sowder.com] On
> > Behalf
>
> > Of Ken Langendock
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:36 AM
> > To: 'David Morrison - Corporate'; powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
> >
> > Or does this mean the Final knife to kill Powerhouse?
> > I'm not liking this.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com
> > [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com]
> > On Behalf Of David Morrison - Corporate
> > Sent: November 12, 2007 10:21 AM
> > To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
> >
> > Thanks, Robert; I hadn't heard about the deal.
> >
> > We are fully 10 years behind in PH versioning (PH607F), so it would
> > be
>
> > great to get caught up on many of the features implemented in the
> > last
>
> > decade!
> >
> > David Morrison
> > McBride Electric, Inc.
> > 858-450-1414 ext. 4211
> > DMorrison at McBrideElectric.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > powerh-l-bounces+dmorrison=mcbrideelectric.com at lists.sowder.com
> > [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+dmorrison=mcbrideelectric.com at lists.sowder.
> > co
> > m]
> > On Behalf Of Robert Mills
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:09 AM
> > To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: FW: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
> >
> > Maybe those on the AS/400 and iSeries platforms may now get a more
> > current version?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Robert W.Mills
> > Business Systems Development Analyst Group Information Systems &
> > Technology Pinnacle Arvato
> > DDI: +44 (0)20 8309 3604
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L at RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Bob Schlosser
> > Sent: 12 November 2007 14:52
> > To: HP3000-L at RAVEN.UTC.EDU
> > Subject: [HP3000-L] IBM Buying Cognos
> >
> > Link to article about $5B purchase of Cognos by IBM
> >
> > http://apnews.excite.com/article/20071112/D8SS5SS00.html
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