Vax to Alpha - Recompile Needed? I think it is'nt

Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:11:38 -0500

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Chris and Joe are correct. The PowerHouse (QUICK, QUIZ, QTP) compiled
"programs" do not have to be recompiled. We had (may still have) many
customers with both VAX and Alpha. You don't have to recompile if you're
using the same version.

You do have to install the Alpha version of PowerHouse itself  on the
Alpha box and get it licensed. The PowerHouse code itself is NOT binary
compatible. Also, any 3GL programs will have to be recompiled.

Bob

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> [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]  On Behalf Of Joe Boyle
> Sent:	March 21, 2005 5:11 AM
> To:	'Steve Heaslip'; 'PowerHouse List'
> Subject:	RE: Vax to Alpha - Recompile Needed? I think it is'nt
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> I agree with Chris,
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> I received the comments below from Ottawa a few years back; but as
> noted below, you always have to perform thorough testing :)
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> 'As long as the version of PowerHouse is exactly the same then the
> compiled programs are binary compatible between VAX and AXP. Most
> users compile on AXP because the processor is faster and move to VAX
> than the reverse. ... It's always a good idea to do thorough testing
> before moving into production.'
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> P.S. they also said that if moving compiled code between VMS versions,
> it is better to compile on a lower version and move to a higher
> version; this is because the OS vendors nearly always confirm upward
> compatibility between versions.
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> Regards, Joe.=20
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> [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Steve Heaslip
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> Subject: Vax to Alpha - Recompile Needed?
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> G'day all
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> We have a client that is running a legacy PowerHouse system (7.10.g)
> on an ageing Vax.
> They want to move the application to an Alpha (currently on the same
> cluster as the Vax) running the same version of Open VMS and the same
> version of PowerHouse.
> I've never moved a PowerHouse application to another box without
> upgrading SOMETHING - so I've always recompiled. But in this instance
> the client is insisting they do not want to recompile unless they
> really have to.
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> Can anyone tell me if there's a need to re-compile the code?
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> Steve Heaslip
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Chris and Joe are =
correct. The PowerHouse (QUICK, QUIZ, QTP) compiled &quot;programs&quot; =
do not have to be recompiled. We had (may still have) many customers =
with both VAX and Alpha. You don't have to recompile if you're using the =
same version.

You do have to =
install the Alpha version of PowerHouse itself&nbsp; on the Alpha box =
and get it licensed. The PowerHouse code itself is NOT binary =
compatible. Also, any 3GL programs will have to be =
recompiled.

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Bob</FONT>
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<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">From: =
&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [<A =
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Behalf Of</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Tahoma">Joe =
Boyle</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
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I think it is'nt

<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I agree with =
Chris,</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I received the =
comments below from Ottawa a few years back; but as noted below, you =
always have to perform thorough testing :)</FONT></SPAN></P>

&#8216;As long as =
the version of PowerHouse is exactly the same then the compiled programs =
are binary compatible between VAX and AXP. Most users compile on AXP =
because the processor is faster and move to VAX than the reverse. =
&#8230; It&#8217;s always a good idea to do thorough testing before =
moving into production.&#8217;

P.S. they also =
said that if moving compiled code between VMS versions, it is better to =
compile on a lower version and move to a higher version; this is because =
the OS vendors nearly always confirm upward compatibility between =
versions.

<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Regards, Joe.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Times =
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">G'day =
all</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">We have a client =
that is running a legacy PowerHouse system (7.10.g) on an ageing =
Vax.</FONT></SPAN>

They want to move =
the application to an Alpha (currently on the same cluster as the Vax) =
running the same version of Open VMS and the same version of =
PowerHouse. 
I've never moved a PowerHouse application to another box without =
upgrading SOMETHING - so I've always recompiled. But in this instance =
the client is insisting they do not want to recompile unless they really =
have to.

<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Can anyone tell =
me if there's a need to re-compile the code?</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Regards,</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><U><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
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