Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?

Ken Langendock Ken@Langendock.com
Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:54:41 -0500 (EST)


Wow.

At first I thought that was a benefit too in my NT
install. But I found that you never knew if something
was going to create a conflict until the actual
process was being run. 

I had a lack of concern when using this technique in
Quiz, but I doubt I would try that approach in QTP.
You could bugger up your database pretty good if you
were not really careful.

Ken

 --- Guy Werry <guy.werry@hbms.ca> wrote: 
> A number of years ago (Argh! I be getting old!) we
> converted from MPE to
> Unix.  We had a large number of temporary subfiles
> passed in between
> processes (extract in one pass, a 2nd pass to
> calculate, a 3rd pass to
> report, etc.).  We found the compilation under Unix
> so bulky and problematic
> that we changed our standard to be that of running
> all of our Quiz & Qtp
> from SOURCE and using permanent subfiles more often.
> 
> This has given us a side benefit: when changing the
> database we find it much
> easier as we spend very little time now with having
> to go through and
> re-compile.  Since we're running from source code,
> Powerhouse just picks up
> the changed data definitions automagically.
> 
> Guy L. Werry
> Senior Systems Analyst
> Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:28 AM
> To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?
> 
> 
> You can run QUIZ from QTP if that's needed but, yes,
> there's still a
> problem with temp files and batch compiles.
> PowerHouse on Windows uses a
> similar mechanism to UNIX as far as Temp files are
> concerned. Each
> component start creates a temp folder (that's
> deleted when the component
> exits) to hold temp files such as interim subfiles.
> Since it's a
> separate folder, one component can't get at another.
> OpenVMS, on the
> other hand, uses a system area. MPE/iX, of course,
> has a temporary
> domain that makes these things easy.
> 
> So no easy solution for this one at this time.
> 
> Bob Deskin              
> Senior Product Manager, Application Development
> Tools, Cognos Inc.
> bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX:
> (613) 727-1178
> 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON
> K1G 4K9 CANADA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf
> Of Ken Langendock
> Sent: March 9, 2005 9:18 AM
> To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?
> 
> 
> Ok guys, it's been almost a year since I tried to
> resolve the issue I had. How did you guys solve the
> problem of compiling all your code in batch (bat
> file)?
> 
> On and HP3000 the subfile definitions stay in memory
> (temp). On a Vax you can call $QUIZ from within QTP
> to
> retain the subfile definitions. Neither of these
> tricks/options work on "Powerhouse for Windows"
> 
> BTW, I worked with Steve B at Cognos for a week on
> this problem back when I was converting and we both
> agreed at the time that it would be easier to run
> interactive quiz until a solution could be found.
> Now
> I guess I should go back to see if I can work
> through
> it since everything else is done.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
>  --- Joe Boyle <atla38@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: 
> > I beg to differ :)
> > 
> > Quiz runs fine in compiled form and you can use
> the
> > AT ( or schedule )
> > command for the batch processor.
> > 
> > Not sure about 'do external' calls to Cobol; you
> > might have to look into
> > using 'run command' as with VB scripts.
> > 
> > Regards, Joe.
> > 
> 
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