Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?

Guy Werry guy.werry@hbms.ca
Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:46:25 -0600


A number of years ago (Argh! I be getting old!) we converted from MPE to
Unix.  We had a large number of temporary subfiles passed in between
processes (extract in one pass, a 2nd pass to calculate, a 3rd pass to
report, etc.).  We found the compilation under Unix so bulky and problematic
that we changed our standard to be that of running all of our Quiz & Qtp
from SOURCE and using permanent subfiles more often.

This has given us a side benefit: when changing the database we find it much
easier as we spend very little time now with having to go through and
re-compile.  Since we're running from source code, Powerhouse just picks up
the changed data definitions automagically.

Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:28 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?


You can run QUIZ from QTP if that's needed but, yes, there's still a
problem with temp files and batch compiles. PowerHouse on Windows uses a
similar mechanism to UNIX as far as Temp files are concerned. Each
component start creates a temp folder (that's deleted when the component
exits) to hold temp files such as interim subfiles. Since it's a
separate folder, one component can't get at another. OpenVMS, on the
other hand, uses a system area. MPE/iX, of course, has a temporary
domain that makes these things easy.

So no easy solution for this one at this time.

Bob Deskin              
Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Ken Langendock
Sent: March 9, 2005 9:18 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?


Ok guys, it's been almost a year since I tried to
resolve the issue I had. How did you guys solve the
problem of compiling all your code in batch (bat
file)?

On and HP3000 the subfile definitions stay in memory
(temp). On a Vax you can call $QUIZ from within QTP to
retain the subfile definitions. Neither of these
tricks/options work on "Powerhouse for Windows"

BTW, I worked with Steve B at Cognos for a week on
this problem back when I was converting and we both
agreed at the time that it would be easier to run
interactive quiz until a solution could be found. Now
I guess I should go back to see if I can work through
it since everything else is done.

Ken



 --- Joe Boyle <atla38@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: 
> I beg to differ :)
> 
> Quiz runs fine in compiled form and you can use the
> AT ( or schedule )
> command for the batch processor.
> 
> Not sure about 'do external' calls to Cobol; you
> might have to look into
> using 'run command' as with VB scripts.
> 
> Regards, Joe.
> 

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