To Quiz or not to Quiz...
Deskin, Bob
Bob.Deskin at Cognos.COM
Tue Jun 14 09:08:50 CDT 2005
XML is on the list but again, no promises.
As for Web Services - three questions.
1) What web services? Web Services is a pretty general term.
2) What do you want to do with them?
3) Why can't you do that with PH Web itself?
Now I know that if you want to communicate with a third party app, for
example to validate credit cards, you need to know the interface
protocol. Since they all vary, how do we make it general in a 4GL. The
external subroutine function already lets you communicate with third
party apps in any form you want. We already have customers doing it.
Bob
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From: powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Edis
Sent: June 14, 2005 6:53 AM
To: PH List
Subject: RE: To Quiz or not to Quiz...
Dear Bob
While we're on the subject of enhancements can we have PH understand XML
input/output and the ability for PH Web to use web services? You asked
me once to provide you a list of specific things where XML syntax could
be implemented in PH. I apologise for not responding earlier.
Basically can XML files be a recognised file format in PHD? This would
enable all components to be able to read/write this type of data file
without special coding by the designer.
Web services in PH Web would be like an updated version of using
external procedures. Instead of calling a DLL or EXE file a call would
be made to the web service via an XML command. Eg. DO XMLCOMMAND
"<.....>"
Regards,
Blue
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+robeconsult=sbcglobal.net at lists.sowder.com]On
> Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:29 PM
> To: Heasman, David; powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: To Quiz or not to Quiz...
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>
> First of all, I've asked development how difficult this would be. I've
> also asked about CSV output. There are no guarantees here but I've
> asked.
>
> As to whether it was a marketing ploy, it was not. At least I have
> never heard that in 25 years of using PowerHouse and dealing with the
> people who would know. The 255/264 limit no doubt has something to do
> with indexing on a limited stack machine (the original HP3000 under
> MPE with a 32k word data stack) or (if the number was 264) was double
> the standard 132 width page.
>
> And I doubt that it would be a simple fix (although hopefully not too
> difficult) and almost nothing is patchable (across all of our
> platforms) in these days of optimizing compilers and RISC machines. I
> expect that increasing the size means changing internal indexing,
> tables, etc.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com]On
> Behalf Of Heasman, David
> Sent: June 14, 2005 5:15 AM
> To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: To Quiz or not to Quiz...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman at ccagroup.co.uk]
>
>
> >
> >
> > If you look at the number of times that this topic has come up on
> > this list, it seems to me that the .CSV file output type needs to
> > be added to Quiz.
>
> Seconded.
> All it really needs is an increase to the 255 page width limit. Is it
> really a non-trivial enhancement ? It seems likely to be very
> simple to me - possibly even patchable in the executable.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> It used to be a marketing decision - because Quiz was cheap, or
> thrown in with ManMan, the 264 limit, and perhaps the 1 subfile
> limit, were marketing tools to encourage users to upgrade to
> the full PowerHouse product set. Perhaps it still is? Does it work?
>
> I think it did work for a short while about 1986 when 5.01 came out
> for the HP3000,
> Mary Towner did quite well getting Quiz users to upgrade.
>
>
>
>
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