To Quiz or not to Quiz...

Robert Edis robeconsult at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jun 14 05:52:55 CDT 2005


Dear Bob

While we're on the subject of enhancements can we have PH understand XML
input/output and the ability for PH Web to use web services?  You asked me
once to provide you a list of specific things where XML syntax could be
implemented in PH.  I apologise for not responding earlier.

Basically can XML files be a recognised file format in PHD?  This would
enable all components to be able to read/write this type of data file
without special coding by the designer.

Web services in PH Web would be like an updated version of using external
procedures.  Instead of calling a DLL or EXE file a call would be made to
the web service via an XML command.  Eg. DO XMLCOMMAND "<.....>"

Regards,

Blue


> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-bounces+robeconsult=sbcglobal.net at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+robeconsult=sbcglobal.net at lists.sowder.com]On
> Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:29 PM
> To: Heasman, David; powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: To Quiz or not to Quiz...
>
>
> First of all, I've asked development how difficult this would be.
> I've also asked about CSV output. There are no guarantees here
> but I've asked.
>
> As to whether it was a marketing ploy, it was not. At least I
> have never heard that in 25 years of using PowerHouse and dealing
> with the people who would know. The 255/264 limit no doubt has
> something to do with indexing on a limited stack machine (the
> original HP3000 under MPE with a 32k word data stack) or (if the
> number was 264) was double the standard 132 width page.
>
> And I doubt that it would be a simple fix (although hopefully not
> too difficult) and almost nothing is patchable (across all of our
> platforms) in these days of optimizing compilers and RISC
> machines. I expect that increasing the size means changing
> internal indexing, tables, etc.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com]On
> Behalf Of Heasman, David
> Sent: June 14, 2005 5:15 AM
> To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: To Quiz or not to Quiz...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman at ccagroup.co.uk]
>
>
> >
> >
> > If you look at the number of times that this topic has come up on this
> > list, it seems to me that the .CSV file  output type needs to be added
> > to Quiz.
>
> Seconded.
> All it really needs is an increase to the 255 page width limit.
> Is it really
> a non-trivial enhancement ? It seems likely to be very
> simple to me - possibly even patchable in the executable.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>  It used to be a marketing decision - because Quiz was cheap, or thrown in
> with ManMan,
>  the 264 limit, and perhaps the 1 subfile limit, were marketing tools to
> encourage users to upgrade to
>  the full PowerHouse product set. Perhaps it still is? Does it work?
>
>  I think it did work for a short while about 1986 when 5.01 came
> out for the
> HP3000,
>  Mary Towner did quite well getting Quiz users to upgrade.
>
>
>
>
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