Suppressing Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400

David Morrison - Corporate dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com
Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:13:14 -0800


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Richard,
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What do you do on the old machine that instructs the system to put the =
spooled debug job on hold?
=20
Thanks.
=20
David Morrison

-----Original Message-----
From: Latimer, Richard [mailto:richard.latimer@airways.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:50 AM
To: David Morrison - Corporate
Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Suppressing Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400


David,
=20
All of our production QTP's run in batch and are called from one =
standard Quick screen which submits them using the ADDJOBSCDE command =
with an SBMDBJOB embedded in it.
=20
They all go to an active output queue, which has a printer connected  - =
if the log files are needed (rarely) they are released to the printer. =
We don't want to lose them altogether since they are a valuable problem =
solving tool.On the 'old' machine they are appended to the output queue =
in 'held' status, on the new machine they are appended in 'rls' status =
and since it is active make their way to the printer ...
=20
The problem we have is that while we THINK we have copied all the user =
and batch profiles, job descriptions, queues, printers etc without =
changes we have obviously overlooked something  -  but what ???
=20
I have found some stuff on one of the IBM sites ( =
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r2/ic2924/books/c415713506.htm ) =
which covers how the printing subsystem works - hopefully the answer =
will lie on there somewehere ...
=20
cheers
Richard
=20
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: David Morrison - Corporate [mailto:dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 6:58 p.m.
To: Latimer, Richard
Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Suppressing Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400


Richard,
=20
We use OVRDBF STDOUT to QTEMP/QTJUNK in (most of) our submitted CL =
programs that call QTP.  Therefore, there's no need to delete the print =
file, as that copy of QTEMP library disappears when the submitted job =
ends..
=20
Are your QTP logs actually printing or are they being spooled to an =
output queue that isn't connected to a printer?
=20
What were you doing on your old machine to keep the QTP logs from =
spooling, and from printing?
=20
Are your QTP's running interactively or in batch?  Are they called from =
CL or QUICK (or ?)?
=20
Thanks.
=20
David Morrison
McBride Electric
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Goparaju, =
Vidyasagar
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:12 PM
To: Latimer, Richard
Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Suppressing Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400



User OVRPRTF QPRINT spool file to a non-printer output queue on AS400.=20

You can also do OVRDBF STDOUT to QTEMP/QPRINT and then delete =
QTEMP/QPRINT when done.=20


Sagar=20



-----Original Message-----=20
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [ =
mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Brett Greiner =
(Kinetix)=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:43 PM=20
To: Latimer, Richard; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com=20
Subject: RE: Suppressing Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400=20

It may be the environment variable PH_PRINTER used for capturing output. =

Set this to "".=20

Hope this helps,=20

Brett.=20

-----Original Message-----=20
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com=20
[ mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Latimer, Richard=20
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:35 p.m.=20
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com=20
Subject: Suppressing Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400=20


Afternoon listers !=20

We are currently migrating our PH app to a new machine and have struck=20
an interesting and environmentally insensitive issue - we can't stop=20
4-5,000 pages of QTP log files from printing each day.=20


We have reviewed the setup of all the print queues and job descriptions=20
in OS/400 to be the same on both machines and are starting to suspect=20
there may be something in the PH startup files.=20

Does anybody out there have any ideas ??=20


regards=20
Richard=20


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D807401119-24112004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D807401119-24112004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D807401119-24112004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>What do you do on=20
the old machine that instructs the system to put the spooled debug job =
on=20
hold?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D807401119-24112004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D807401119-24112004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D807401119-24112004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D807401119-24112004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>David=20
Morrison</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Latimer, Richard=20
  [mailto:richard.latimer@airways.co.nz]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
November 24,=20
  2004 10:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B> David Morrison - Corporate<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
  powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Suppressing Log Files =
- 6.07F=20
  on AS/400<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>David,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>All=20
  of our production QTP's run in batch and are called from one standard =
Quick=20
  screen which submits them using the ADDJOBSCDE command with an =
SBMDBJOB=20
  embedded in it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>They=20
  all&nbsp;go to an active output queue, which has a printer=20
  connected&nbsp;&nbsp;- if the log files are needed (rarely) they are =
released=20
  to the printer. We don't want to lose them altogether since they are a =

  valuable problem solving tool.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
  class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>On the 'old'=20
  machine they are appended to the output queue in 'held' status, on the =
new=20
  machine they are appended in 'rls' status and since it is active make =
their=20
  way to the printer ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The=20
  problem we have is that while we&nbsp;THINK we have copied all the =
user and=20
  batch profiles, job descriptions, queues, printers etc without changes =
we have=20
  obviously overlooked something&nbsp; -&nbsp; but what =
???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  have found some stuff on&nbsp;one of the IBM sites ( <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r2/ic2924/books/c41571350=
6.htm">http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r2/ic2924/books/c415713506=
.htm</A>&nbsp;)=20
  which covers how the printing subsystem works - hopefully the answer =
will lie=20
  on there somewehere ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>cheers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Richard</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D854581818-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
David Morrison=20
    - Corporate [mailto:dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
    Wednesday, 24 November 2004 6:58 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> Latimer,=20
    Richard<BR><B>Cc:</B> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE:=20
    Suppressing Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>We=20
    use OVRDBF STDOUT to QTEMP/QTJUNK in (most of) our submitted CL =
programs=20
    that call QTP.&nbsp; Therefore, there's no need to delete the print =
file, as=20
    that copy of QTEMP library disappears when the submitted job=20
    ends..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Are your QTP logs actually printing or are they being =
spooled to an=20
    output queue that isn't connected to a printer?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>What were you doing on your old machine to keep the QTP =
logs from=20
    spooling, and from printing?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Are your QTP's running interactively or in batch?&nbsp; Are =
they=20
    called from CL or QUICK (or ?)?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>David Morrison</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>McBride Electric</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D053435205-24112004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com=20
      [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Goparaju,=20
      Vidyasagar<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:12=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> Latimer, Richard<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
      powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Suppressing Log =
Files -=20
      6.07F on AS/400<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>User OVRPRTF QPRINT spool file to a non-printer =
output=20
      queue on AS400.</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>You can also do OVRDBF STDOUT to QTEMP/QPRINT =
and then=20
      delete QTEMP/QPRINT when done.</FONT> </P><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Sagar</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
      powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-admin@lis=
ts.sowder.com</A>]On=20
      Behalf Of Brett Greiner (Kinetix)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: =
Tuesday,=20
      November 23, 2004 6:43 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>To: Latimer, =
Richard;=20
      powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: RE: =
Suppressing=20
      Log Files - 6.07F on AS/400</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>It may be the environment variable PH_PRINTER =
used for=20
      capturing output.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Set this to "".</FONT> =
</P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Hope this helps,</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Brett.</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
      powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>[<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-admin@lis=
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      On Behalf Of Latimer, Richard</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: =
Wednesday, 24=20
      November 2004 12:35 p.m.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>To:=20
      powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: =
Suppressing Log=20
      Files - 6.07F on AS/400</FONT> </P><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Afternoon listers !</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>We are currently migrating our PH app to a new =
machine and=20
      have struck</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>an interesting and =
environmentally=20
      insensitive issue - we can't stop</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>4-5,000 pages of=20
      QTP log files from printing each day.</FONT> </P><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>We have reviewed the setup of all the print =
queues and job=20
      descriptions</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>in OS/400 to be the same on =
both=20
      machines and are starting to suspect</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>there may be=20
      something in the PH startup files.</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Does anybody out there have any ideas ??</FONT> =
</P><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>regards</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Richard</FONT> =
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