Stronghold

[Guy Werry]

I can understand the comment.  I look at this sort of thing from the
standpoint of 20+ years experience and no formal training in object oriented
programming / design.  I know my Cobol and PH inside and out, work a lot in
SQL*Forms / Oracle tools.  I also dabble a little bit in C, because we have
a package that we've taken over maintenance on.

So, if Mark is anything like me, C is a completely asinine language to use
for commercial data processing ... for an old Cobol fossil like myself it's
incredible to think that if I want a 20 character field for an employee name
that I have to declare it as 21 characters and MANUALLY put a NULL character
in the 21st character!  That relates to Java in that I've read that Java is
very much like C ... hence, I have a bias that (admittedly) is not
necessarily very accurate.

I'm sure that if/when I get the learning in about proper OO design, that
I'll be able to be successful in it and find that it's a productive world:
it's just that the case for moving there really doesn't look that strong at
this point.

As for Georgia's dilemma about hiring / retiring, we have some sympathy ...
you should try finding people in or who are willing to come to a town of
8000 that used to be FOUR HOURS DRIVE from the nearest MacDonalds
restaurant!  Fortunately, Wal-Mart has brought in MacDonalds and life is
better!

Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:05 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Re: Stronghold


Mark,

I'm just wondering if you've done any extensive Java work? If not, I 
can't understand how you can make such a comment. If you have, was it on 
a well designed Java application, or was it just old 3GL coding style?

 From what I've seen of people who are sold on Object technology, the 
benefits come from buying into OO design & coding. The devil is more in 
the details of the design. If this isn't done very well up front, what 
follows can be a problematic.

Also, I don't see any need for Dennis to mention benefits of moving to 
Java from Powerhouse. If your inquiring about this tool and service, 
you've already answered that question for your self. Now, if you mean 
your interested in more details of his product, I too would be 
interested in that. Right now it is a curiosity thing for me.

Darren


Mark Stewart wrote:

>Dennis,
>
>I was wondering...do you include the benefits from
>moving from PowerHouse to Java with your product.  I'm
>not sure I understand why you'd want to do something
>like that.  I could not for the life of me imagine
>having to maintain a large business application
>written in Java.  Nightmare waiting to happen there
>I'd say.  I'd be running out of that shop in a hurry.
>


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