Introduction of Calling Quick Screens as Functions

Tim Cummings tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com
Tue, 25 May 2004 13:17:19 -0400


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I have been writing Powerhouse for 22 years.  On many, many occasions I have
utilized "ghost screens" to accomplish the task at hand (mostly 31 file
limit).  However the one thing I have never done is to use Quick for batch
processing.  Maybe I'm missing something but I've never run into a situation
that QTP didn't cover.
 
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX [mailto:Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Jon Hawks'; chuck.reinke; Darren Reely; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Introduction of Calling Quick Screens as Functions


We use this method extensively in our system for complicated processes that
would be a bear to write in QTP.   The only "gotcha" that you need to worry
about is an apparent 32,000 "run screen" limit.  That is, if your quick
screen calls other screens, there is a limit as to how many times that other
screen can be called.  It seems to depend on how many calls are being done
and the relative complexity of the process that you've written.
 
cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Jon Hawks
Sent: 2004 May 24 10:36 PM
To: chuck.reinke; Darren Reely; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Re: Introduction of Calling Quick Screens as Functions


Try this, and for the hard-core's, please excuse the simplicity. I copied it
from one of our regular jobs we run in batch using quick.
 
quick auto=qk-batch-1 term=vt220  (if you're on an Open/VMS your site might
need this)
 
Screen qk-batch-1
file customer  designer
file invoices    designer
file payments designer 
 
Procedure Internal Special-payments
 begin
  some great stuff here
    gets 
    lets
    puts
   end
Procedure internal regular-payments
 begin
  some other great stuff here
  get an invoice
  get the payment
  lets reconcile
  puts
   end
procedure cust-run
 begin
   while retrieving customer sequential 
    begin
       if cust-type = "regular joe"
        do internal regular-payments
       if cust-type = "special"
        do internal special-payments
       end
procedure initial
  begin
     do internal cust-run
     return
    end
build

"chuck.reinke" <chuck.reinke@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I believe the practice arose many years ago on ancient HP systems where
programmers often ran out of stack space. A GHOST screen, as a sub-process,
was a technique for gaining additional system resources. Eventually some
programming logic supported the technique as well as the idea of shared
subroutines.

Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Reely" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:10 PM
Subject: Introduction of Calling Quick Screens as Functions


> We were wondering today when the concept was introduced allowing coders
> to call quick screens as hidden functions. The code I'm maintaining
> seems to have been created as early as April 1992.
>
> While we're on the subject. What is the best way to set up the screen
> statement? A! pparently the GHOST option is not _required_ when calling
> the screen.
>
> Thanks for the interest.
>
> Darren
>
>
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<DIV><SPAN class=171571017-25052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have 
been writing Powerhouse for 22 years.&nbsp; On many, many&nbsp;occasions I have 
utilized "ghost screens" to accomplish the task at hand (mostly 31 file 
limit).&nbsp; However the one thing I have never done is to use Quick for batch 
processing.&nbsp; Maybe I'm missing something but I've never run into a 
situation that QTP didn't cover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171571017-25052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171571017-25052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Tim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX 
  [mailto:Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 25, 
  2004 11:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Jon Hawks'; chuck.reinke; Darren Reely; 
  powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Introduction of Calling Quick 
  Screens as Functions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=808294915-25052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We 
  use this method extensively in our system for complicated processes that would 
  be a bear to write in QTP.&nbsp;&nbsp; The only "gotcha" that you need to 
  worry about is an apparent 32,000 "run screen" limit.&nbsp; That is, if your 
  quick screen calls other screens, there is a limit as to how many times that 
  other screen can be called.&nbsp; It seems to depend on how many calls are 
  being done and the relative complexity of the process that you've 
  written.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=808294915-25052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=808294915-25052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>cheers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com 
    [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jon 
    Hawks<BR><B>Sent:</B> 2004 May 24 10:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B> chuck.reinke; 
    Darren Reely; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Introduction 
    of Calling Quick Screens as Functions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>Try this, and for the hard-core's, please excuse the simplicity. I 
    copied it from one of our regular jobs we run in batch using quick.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>quick auto=qk-batch-1 term=vt220&nbsp; (if you're on an Open/VMS your 
    site might need this)</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Screen qk-batch-1</DIV>
    <DIV>file customer&nbsp; designer</DIV>
    <DIV>file invoices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; designer</DIV>
    <DIV>file payments designer </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Procedure Internal Special-payments</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;begin</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; some great stuff here</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; gets </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lets</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; puts</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; end</DIV>
    <DIV>Procedure internal regular-payments</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;begin</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; some other great stuff here</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; get an invoice</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; get the payment</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; lets reconcile</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; puts</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; end</DIV>
    <DIV>procedure cust-run</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;begin</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; while retrieving customer sequential&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; begin</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if cust-type = "regular joe"</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; do internal 
    regular-payments</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if cust-type = "special"</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; do internal 
    special-payments</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; end</DIV>
    <DIV>procedure initial</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp; begin</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; do internal cust-run</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; return</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; end</DIV>
    <DIV>build<BR><BR><B><I>"chuck.reinke" 
    &lt;chuck.reinke@sbcglobal.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq 
    style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I 
      believe the practice arose many years ago on ancient HP systems 
      where<BR>programmers often ran out of stack space. A GHOST screen, as a 
      sub-process,<BR>was a technique for gaining additional system resources. 
      Eventually some<BR>programming logic supported the technique as well as 
      the idea of shared<BR>subroutines.<BR><BR>Chuck<BR><BR>----- Original 
      Message ----- <BR>From: "Darren Reely" 
      <DARREN.REELY@LATTICESEMI.COM><BR>To: <POWERH-L@LISTS.SOWDER.COM><BR>Sent: 
      Monday, May 24, 2004 6:10 PM<BR>Subject: Introduction of Calling Quick 
      Screens as Functions<BR><BR><BR>&gt; We were wondering today when the 
      concept was introduced allowing coders<BR>&gt; to call quick screens as 
      hidden functions. The code I'm maintaining<BR>&gt; seems to have been 
      created as early as April 1992.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; While we're on the 
      subject. What is the best way to set up the screen<BR>&gt; statement? A! 
      pparently the GHOST option is not _required_ when calling<BR>&gt; the 
      screen.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks for the interest.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
      Darren<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 
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