AS/400 Upgrade - Migrate off PowerHouse? Why?

Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:21:39 -0700

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Thanks for the input (including Darren Reely's message that just came =
in).
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I think going from an AS/400 to Windows would be a huge step backwards =
in terms of reliability and up-time.
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I'm thinking that the AIX solution may be our best bet.
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Thanks again.
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David Morrison
McBride Electric
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Boyle [mailto:joeboyle_adt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:52 AM
To: powerh-l@sowder.com
Subject: RE: AS/400 Upgrade - Migrate off PowerHouse? Why?
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I think you can now access DB2 from all of the latest PH platforms, why =
not go for Axiant on Windows - it has a GUI interface which is likely as =
close to the AS400 environment as you're going to get.
=20
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From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Charles Finley
Sent: 30 June 2004 16:17
To: 'David Morrison - Corporate'; 'Deskin, Bob'; powerh-l@sowder.com
Subject: RE: Migrate off PowerHouse? Why?
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You have two good options. =20
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1) You can actually run the Powerhouse AIX version on the iSeries.  The =
iSeries supports the PASE environment which is 99% AIX compatible.  We =
routinely move AIX code to the iSeries with usually without any =
recompile.  DB2 on the iSeries is very slightly different, so there will =
likely be some minor issues there.  Support is an issue you will have to =
take up with COGNOS.  However, there are no serious technical issues.
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2) I don't know the details, but I undersand that AIX is now or will =
soon be supported on the iSeries in an LPAR.
=20
Charles Finley
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of David Morrison - =
Corporate
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:18 AM
To: Charles Finley; Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@sowder.com
Subject: RE: Migrate off PowerHouse? Why?
Charles, et al
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We're running our custom PowerHouse-developed application on an IBM =
AS/400 (iSeries), a platform that Cognos has recently "sunsetted". (They =
haven't been doing development for the system for several years, but =
they've announced the total end of support in February of 2007.)  I see =
PowerHouse and the AS/400 as being very similar:  rock solid, bug-free, =
low down-time, efficient, low "total cost of ownership", and =
underappreciated in the marketplace.
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We're reluctant to drop either PowerHouse or the AS/400, but my company =
is starting to look at our options.   What's your recommendation for a =
platform for us to migrate our custom programs to?
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Thanks.
=20
David Morrison
McBride Electric
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Arial'>Thanks for the input (including Darren Reely&#8217;s message that =
just came
in).<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I think going from an AS/400 to Windows would be a huge step =
backwards
in terms of reliability and up-time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I&#8217;m thinking that the AIX solution may be our best =
bet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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From: Joe Boyle
[mailto:joeboyle_adt@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, =
2004
10:52 AM 
To: =
powerh-l@sowder.com 
Subject: RE: AS/400 =
Upgrade -
Migrate off PowerHouse? Why?

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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think you can =
now
access DB2 from all of the latest PH platforms, why not go for Axiant on
Windows &#8211; it has a GUI interface which is likely as close to the =
AS400
environment as you&#8217;re going to get.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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From:
powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] =
On Behalf Of Charles Finley 
Sent: 30 June 2004 =
16:17 
To: 'David Morrison - =
Corporate';
'Deskin, Bob'; powerh-l@sowder.com 
Subject: RE: Migrate off
PowerHouse? Why?<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You have two =
good
options.&nbsp; </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>1) You can =
actually run
the Powerhouse AIX version on the iSeries.&nbsp; The iSeries supports =
the PASE
environment which is 99% AIX compatible.&nbsp; We routinely move AIX =
code to
the iSeries with usually without any recompile.&nbsp; DB2 on the iSeries =
is
very slightly different, so there will likely be some minor&nbsp;issues
there.&nbsp; Support is an issue you will have to take up with =
COGNOS.&nbsp;
However, there are no serious technical issues.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>2) I don't know =
the
details, but I undersand that AIX is now or will soon be supported on =
the
iSeries in an LPAR.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Charles =
Finley</span></font><font
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1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 3.0pt'>-----Original
Message----- 
From:
powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] =
On Behalf Of David Morrison - =
Corporate 
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, =
2004
7:18 AM 
To: Charles Finley; =
Deskin, Bob;
powerh-l@sowder.com 
Subject: RE: Migrate off
PowerHouse? Why?<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Charles, et =
al<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

We&#8217;re running our custom =
PowerHouse-developed
application on an IBM AS/400 (iSeries), a platform that Cognos has =
recently
&#8220;sunsetted&#8221;. (They haven&#8217;t been doing development for =
the system for several
years, but they&#8217;ve announced the total end of support in February =
of
2007.)&nbsp; I see PowerHouse and the AS/400 as being very =
similar:&nbsp; rock
solid, bug-free, low down-time, efficient, low &#8220;total cost of =
ownership&#8221;, and
underappreciated in the marketplace.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:39.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 3.0pt'><span
class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We&#8217;re reluctant to drop either =
PowerHouse or the
AS/400, but my company is starting to look at our options.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
What&#8217;s
your recommendation for a platform for us to migrate our custom programs =
to?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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Electric</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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