Tool to generate screen program?????
Miller, Daniel
Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk
Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:29:57 +0100
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Hi,
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Am i right in thinking you could get the source code if the screen was =
compiled with the debugger?
I think you would need the .qkc/.qkd/.qkl files; then you could do list =
all in the quick debug facility.
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Daniel Miller
Nightfreight
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-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Hurworth, Erik; 'gary'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Tool to generate screen program????
If that's the question, I.e take a compiled screen file and generate =
QDESIGN source code, the answer is that there has never been such a tool =
to my recollection.=20
Bob Deskin =20
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.=20
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178=20
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Hurworth, Erik=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:23 AM
To: Deskin, Bob; 'gary'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Tool to generate screen program?????
Hi all,
=20
I may be wrong but I think the original question may have been aluding =
to whether you can generate the source code=20
from a compiled program if you have since mislaid the source. The answer =
to this question as far as I am aware is a
resounding NO.
=20
Regards=20
Erik A. Hurworth=20
Technical Lead=20
Customer Support=20
Cognos Ltd.=20
Tel: +44 1344 707799=20
Email: erik.hurworth@cognos.com=20
Web: support.cognos.com=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 21 October 2003 11:24
To: 'gary'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Tool to generate screen program?????
Yes it did but has not been available for many years. We found that it =
was very difficult to maintain relative to the use customers got from =
it. Of course there were some people who loved it, but most didn't care =
one way or the other. We'd rather focus resources where they matter.
=20
It's very difficult to translate a layout into efficient QDESIGN code. =
Note the word efficient. I suppose you could use AT options for every =
FIELD, but that's not efficient. Also, how do you handle ID association. =
The layout section in QDESIGN is not just layout, it's processing =
sequence and grouping as well. This is where Screen Painter really had =
problems.
Bob Deskin =20
Product Manager, Application Development Tools=20
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA=20
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268=20
-----Original Message-----
From: gary [mailto:gary@heritage.co.za]
Sent: October 21, 2003 5:01 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Re: Tool to generate screen program?????
Didn't the PowerHouse Paint utility do something similar. I don't know =
if it has been discontinued, but I remember using it to do the initial =
design for screens, but that was a few versions back and I don't recall =
seeing it in our present version(MPE 8.19C).
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) =
<mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au> =20
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: Tool to generate screen program?????
No, but if you're pre-paired to pay me $40 an hour (AUS) I'll make one =
for you in VB. Not a bad idea actually.
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<mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu> ]On Behalf Of danteshwari d
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:37 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Tool to generate screen program?????
Hello all,
=20
Is there any tool which can generate screen program in QDesign when the =
layout of the screen=20
is given as an input file(something similar to HTML code generation in =
frontpage)?
If no tool is available then i would like to know if this kind of thing =
is possible in powerhouse.
=20
Danteshwari
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D770192814-21102003>Am i=20
right in thinking you could get the source code if the screen was =
compiled with=20
the debugger?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D770192814-21102003>I=20
think you would need the .qkc/.qkd/.qkl files; then you could do list =
all in the=20
quick debug facility.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D770192814-21102003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D770192814-21102003>Daniel=20
Miller</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D770192814-21102003>Nightfreight</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D770192814-21102003> </SPAN>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, =
October 21,=20
2003 1:46 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Hurworth, Erik; 'gary';=20
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Tool to generate screen=20
program????<BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D838014312-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial size=3D2>If=20
that's the question, I.e take a compiled screen file and generate =
QDESIGN=20
source code, the answer is that there has never been such a tool to my =
recollection. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D838014312-21102003>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob=20
=
Deskin &=
nbsp; =20
</FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Product Manager, Application =
Development=20
Tools, Cognos Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>bob.deskin@cognos.com=20
(613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9=20
CANADA</FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Hurworth, Erik=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Deskin,=20
Bob; 'gary'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Tool to =
generate=20
screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D063122212-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi=20
all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D063122212-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D063122212-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial size=3D2>I=20
may be wrong but I think the original question may have been =
aluding to=20
whether you can generate the source code </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D063122212-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>f</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D063122212-21102003><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>rom a compiled </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D063122212-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial =
size=3D2>program if=20
you have since mislaid the source. The answer to this question as =
far as I=20
am aware is a</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D063122212-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>resounding NO.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erik A. Hurworth</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Technical Lead</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Customer=20
Support</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cognos Ltd.</FONT> =
</P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tel: +44 1344 707799</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Email: erik.hurworth@cognos.com</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Web: support.cognos.com</FONT> </P>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Deskin, Bob=20
[mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 October 2003=20
11:24<BR><B>To:</B> 'gary'; =
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
Tool to generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449121910-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Yes it did but has not been available for many years. We =
found that=20
it was very difficult to maintain relative to the use customers got =
from it.=20
Of course there were some people who loved it, but most didn't care =
one way=20
or the other. We'd rather focus resources where they=20
matter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449121910-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449121910-21102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>It's very difficult to translate a layout into efficient =
QDESIGN=20
code. Note the word efficient. I suppose you could use AT options =
for every=20
FIELD, but that's not efficient. Also, how do you handle ID =
association. The=20
layout section in QDESIGN is not just layout, it's processing =
sequence and=20
grouping as well. This is where Screen Painter really had=20
problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449121910-21102003>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob=20
=
Deskin &=
nbsp; =20
</FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Product Manager</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>,</FONT> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Application =
Development Tools</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cognos Inc.</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3755 Riverside =
Drive</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>,</FONT> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ottawa ON =
K1G 4K9=20
CANADA</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>bob.deskin@cognos.com</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(613) =
738-1338 ext</FONT>=20
<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7268</FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> gary=20
[mailto:gary@heritage.co.za]<BR><B>Sent:</B> October 21, 2003 5:01 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B> powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
Tool to=20
generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DGaramond size=3D2>Didn't the PowerHouse Paint =
utility do=20
something similar. I don't know if it has been discontinued, but I =
remember using it to do the initial design for screens, but that =
was a few=20
versions back and I don't recall seeing it in our present =
version(MPE=20
8.19C).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au"=20
title=3DFernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au>Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at =
Alcoa)</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu"=20
title=3Dpowerh-l@lists.swau.edu>powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October =
21, 2003=20
1:04 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Tool to =
generate=20
screen program?????</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D149050423-20102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>No, but if you're pre-paired to pay me $40 an hour =
(AUS) I'll=20
make one for you in VB. Not a bad idea =
actually.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu">powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.e=
du</A>=20
[<A=20
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Behalf Of </B>danteshwari d<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October =
20, 2003=20
1:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu">powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</A><BR><B=
>Subject:</B>=20
Tool to generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there any tool which =
can =20
generate screen program in QDesign when the layout of the =
screen=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is given as an input =
file(something=20
similar to HTML code generation in frontpage)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If no tool is available then =
i would like=20
to know if this kind of thing is possible in =
powerhouse.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Danteshwari</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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