PowerHouse in the next 3 years?
stewm@canada.com
stewm@canada.com
Thu, 08 May 2003 11:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
Christina,
I would agree. I the past when I called Cognos with a
customer number in hand I was embraced with open arms.
I'm talking about what about when you do not have a
customer number in hand?
What if my company is a service company. The real
Cognos customer is our client. How easily is it for
business information technologists of private service
companies? Let's say I get an email in my inbox and
it's says have you ever worked with Axiant. Let's says
one of the ways that is ever going to happen is you get
your hands on it. Let's say that individual wants to
gets his hands on it so the next time he can say 'yes,
I've started using it'. The other way I guess is he
could go take some lessons at Cognos for $1000's.
How long with it take for that person (not a company),
with no inclination to buy a demo or eval copies of
Axiant? 24 hours, 2 weeks,??
How long does it take a college student who is
considering trying to enter the work force and starts
to see some PowerHouseWeb jobs out there on
monsterjobs? How does he get his hands on it? He can
start doing Java any day of the week.
Recruiters get asked for Axiant resources from time to
time. Poor guys have a better chance of winning the
lottery sometimes then finding a guy to do an Axiant
project.
It's not true that this software is easily accessible
for those of us in IT (Information Technology). Those
of us with Computer Science Degrees and Business
Information Technology Diplomas that actually do the
work, right. You send the customer your manuals and
your evals and it they sit there for the first time
they get Tom, Dick, and Harry from Sales, Accounting,
and the warehouse to come over and try it out. Then
maybe stick it on a shelf in their office with the
other evals and pretend they know something about
software. I've been places with they have bookkeepers
programming in PowerHouse. Try explain to them why
they should use a Choose instead of a Select. Good
luck. Try putting your product in the hands of
Information Technologists with training and the ability
to learn and know the concepts required to make real
use of your ADT product. Then MAYBE the customer might
want to go to Axiant if they knew there were some
people out there with a solid computer science
education that know Axiant and could design reliable
business applications.
Maybe though, if all that did happen...then your
customers wouldn't be forced to call Cognos and have to
pay one of your consultants to come out and do the job
for double the rate the rest us poor IT guys would
charge.
Let's face it who would want to haggle with Java to
write business applications when they could use
PowerHouse Web. If I had to sit there and start
hammering out 200 lines of Java to do some that would
take 20 seconds in PowerHouse I'd be asking myself why?
Appets and servets using Java fine. The application
side of things, PowerHouseWeb would rule.
Thing is noone with a computer science background knows
PowerHouseWEB from a hole in the ground nor will most
of them ever get a chance to try it.
Mark
Hi Mark,
I am trying to understand why you have stated that it
is difficult to get a demo copy of our software. All a
company has to do is ask for a demo copy and we are
more than happy to provide one. What was your
experience?
Regards,
Hasse
ADT North American Technical Manager
COGNOS CORPORATION
christina.hasse@cognos.com
425 N. Martingale Road, Suite 600
Schaumburg, IL 60173
Office: 847 - 285 - 2905
Cell: 847 - 269 - 1909 (new)
Fax: 847 - 240 - 0252
-----Original Message-----
From: stewm@canada.com [mailto:stewm@canada.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:48 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: PowerHouse in the next 3 years?
Bob B., it wouldn't hurt to let the masses try out the
products at least. Trying to get a demo copy of
Axiant, PowerHouse Web is like trying to find out how
they got the caramel in the Caramilk Bar with you guys.
It wouldn't hurt to make the products more out there
to the public (downloadable perhaps). I have Java on
my machine at home for free. Got it from Sun. Was
able to dive right in to Java. Imagine if is was that
easy for the masses to dive right into PowerHouse Web.
Mark Stewart
Windsor, Ontario
Berry, Robert Bob.Berry@Cognos.com
Wed, 7 May 2003 10:41:06 -0400
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People of the board
Free PowerHouse Web....
If PHWeb were included with the next release (8.4)
along with AXiant do you
believe that your applications would be better
served????
Do you see the potential for migrating existing
applications to the web????
to Unix????
Would IT directors embrace this technology???
Do you think that there is a need for PH Linux???
Do you need Itanium support???
Are you prepared to show cost savings, manhour
reductions, increased
productivity etc etc ??
If so .........please reply.....
Bob
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