Powerhouse HP3000 Migration
Edis, Robert
Robert.Edis@blistex.com
Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:05:15 -0500
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But be warned! Cognos support will give you grief if you say you are
running the software remotely via Terminal Services, pcAnywhere, etc. as it
is a 'non-supported' environment.
This has happened to me repeatedly. :(
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:50 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration
Of course another option you might consider if you want to run the
application on a Windows server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to
look into using Windows Terminal Services. The app will still be running in
a DOS box, its just that all of your users will be running different DOS
boxes on the same machine...so you only have one machine to worry about
deploying the application to. Obviously you still need the same number of PH
licensed users...just as you would if you deployed to a UNIX box.
Best regards,
Conrad
Conrad Whittall
Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 2 July 2003 14:35
To: 'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration
Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the Command Console
window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, but
there aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license
by user count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client.
You can still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use
PROCLOC to point to a network drive).
I wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about this.
Bob Deskin
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cummings [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:15 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration
Does the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular
window?
-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:02 AM
To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration
The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for
order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released
June 23.
Bob Deskin
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com
<mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration
G'day Luan
I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC
AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC.
Points:
1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The
Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web.
The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users
connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country.
2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources.
3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve
performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare
circumstances where only Quiz will do.
The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if
Reflection supports W2K as a server though.
Good luck,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: lha@bigpond.net.au [ mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au
<mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au> ]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration
One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to
move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the
job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of
dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now
but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a
single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I
have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly
using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?).
My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm
particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to
printers. What databases are you using?
The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they
currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options
for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be
customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web?
Any other observations or thoughts welcome!
Thanks,
Luan Ha
Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd.
Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D656360319-02072003>But be=20
warned! Cognos support will give you grief if you say you are =
running the=20
software remotely via Terminal Services, pcAnywhere, etc. as it is =
a=20
'non-supported' environment. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D656360319-02072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D656360319-02072003>This=20
has happened to me repeatedly. :(</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D656360319-02072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D656360319-02072003>Blue</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Whittall, Conrad=20
[mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July =
02, 2003=20
1:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
Powerhouse HP3000 Migration<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D921364318-02072003>Of course=20
another option you might consider if you want to run the application =
on a=20
Windows server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to look into =
using=20
Windows Terminal Services. The app will still be running in a DOS =
box, its=20
just that all of your users will be running different DOS boxes on =
the same=20
machine...so you only have one machine to worry about deploying the=20
application to. Obviously you still need the same number of PH =
licensed=20
users...just as you would if you deployed to a UNIX =
box.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D921364318-02072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D921364318-02072003></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DVerdana =
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class=3D921364318-02072003><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Best=20
regards,</FONT><BR><B><I><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
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size=3D6>Conrad</FONT></I></B><I></I> </DIV>
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<P><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#808080 size=3D1>Conrad=20
Whittall</FONT></B><BR><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#808080 =
size=3D1>Solutions=20
Architect, Global Customer Services</FONT></B><BR><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#808080 size=3D1>Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, =
Ottawa,=20
Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada</FONT></B></P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Deskin, Bob=20
[mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 2 July 2003 =
14:35<BR><B>To:</B>=20
'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
Powerhouse=20
HP3000 Migration<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D771473218-02072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the =
Command Console=20
window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, =
but there=20
aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license =
by user=20
count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. =
You can=20
still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use =
PROCLOC to=20
point to a network drive).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D771473218-02072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D771473218-02072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about=20
this.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob=20
=
Deskin =
=20
</FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Product Manager, Application =
Development=20
Tools, Cognos Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>bob.deskin@cognos.com=20
(613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 =
CANADA</FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tim Cummings=20
[mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Wednesday, July=20
02, 2003 2:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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12.0pt">Does=20
the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a =
regular=20
window?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B> Deskin,=20
Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 02, =
2003 11:02=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Edis, =
Robert';=20
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Powerhouse =
HP3000=20
Migration</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if =
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<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">The "green" =
screen=20
capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on =
Windows=20
NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June=20
23.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
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size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Bob=20
=
Deskin =
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Product Manager, =
Application=20
Development Tools, Cognos Inc.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) =
738-1338=20
ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN =
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">3755 Riverside Drive P.O. =
Box 9707=20
Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">From: Edis, Robert [<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com">mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com</=
A>]</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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2003 10:04 AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN =
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<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
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powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
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HP3000=20
Migration</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black">=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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Luan</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">I have used =
PH 8.24 on=20
W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS =
ODBC</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">AND RMS and =
DB2 databases=20
via Connx ODBC.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN =
style=3D"COLOR: black">=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
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<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Points:</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">1. no =
'green' screen=20
available until the new version comes out (soon?). =20
The</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">=20
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Quick engine is for design =
purposes=20
only and meant to be run under PH Web.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">The response time is pretty =
good=20
though, especially as we had users</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">connecting to the PH Web =
forms over=20
56k modems from across the country.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">2. QTP works fast and well =
connecting=20
to all the above data sources.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">3. Quiz performance against =
SQL Server=20
sucks. However you can improve</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">performance by =
incorporating embedded=20
SQL and database stored procedures.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">For reporting I'd recommend =
converting=20
to Impromptu except for the rare</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">circumstances where only =
Quiz will=20
do.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">The version =
due out soon=20
has 'green' screen capability. I don't know =
if</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Reflection =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">From: lha@bigpond.net.au =
[<A=20
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</FONT><FONT=20
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powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Subject: Powerhouse HP3000=20
Migration</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black">=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
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face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><![if =
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<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">One of my =
clients has a=20
single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">MPE/iX v =
7.0. The client=20
is part of a large multi-national who want to </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">move away =
from the HP3000=20
platform. However, we find that PH does the </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">job well and =
the client=20
is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">dollars =
re-writing the=20
app which would end up doing what it does now </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">but at =
higher cost and=20
possibly lower reliability. Although it's a </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">single app, =
it's a core=20
system handling high revenue. One thought I </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">have is to =
move to PH on=20
a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">using the =
Eloquence=20
database (PH version due late this year?).</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">My =
questions: what is=20
your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">particularly =
interested=20
in performance, reliability, interface to </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">printers. =
What databases=20
are you using?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN =
style=3D"COLOR: black">=20
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">The client is happy to =
continue with=20
text-based screens - they </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">currently use WQR =
Reflection which=20
gives the users plenty of options </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">for customising the display =
etc. Can=20
the PH/Win NT combination also be </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">customised in this way =
without going=20
to Axiant or PH Web?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Any other observations or =
thoughts=20
welcome!</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black">=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
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Ha</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">=20
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
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