Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

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The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for
order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released
June 23.

Bob Deskin              
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

G'day Luan

I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC
AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC.

Points:
1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?).  The
Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web.
The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users
connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country.
2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources.
3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks.  However you can improve
performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare
circumstances where only Quiz will do.

The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability.  I don't know if
Reflection supports  W2K as a server though.

Good luck,

Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running 
MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to 
move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the 
job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of 
dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now 
but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a 
single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I 
have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly 
using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?).

My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm 
particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to 
printers. What databases are you using?
The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they 
currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options 
for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be 
customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web?
Any other observations or thoughts welcome!

Thanks,

Luan Ha
Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd.

Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au

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The &quot;green&quot; screen capability, in other =
words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's =
version 8.41 and was officially released June 23.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob =
Deskin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Product Manager, Application Development Tools, =
Cognos Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: =
(613) 727-1178</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON =
K1G 4K9 CANADA</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Edis, Robert [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com">mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com</=
A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>G'day Luan</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 =
database via MS ODBC</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC.</FONT>
</P>

Points:
 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version =
comes out (soon?).&nbsp; The
 Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant =
to be run under PH Web.
 The response time is pretty good though, especially =
as we had users
 connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from =
across the country.
 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the =
above data sources.
 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks.&nbsp; =
However you can improve
 performance by incorporating embedded SQL and =
database stored procedures.
 For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu =
except for the rare
 circumstances where only Quiz will do.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The version due out soon has 'green' screen =
capability.&nbsp; I don't know if</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Reflection supports&nbsp; W2K as a server =
though.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Good luck,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Blue</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: lha@bigpond.net.au [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au">mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au</A>]</FONT>=

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an =
old HP3000 running 
 MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large =
multi-national who want to 
 move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find =
that PH does the 
 job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a =
whole heap of 
 dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing =
what it does now 
 but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. =
Although it's a 
 single app, it's a core system handling high =
revenue. One thought I 
 have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server =
platform, possibly 
 using the Eloquence database (PH version due late =
this year?).

My questions: what is your experience with running PH =
on Win NT/2K? I'm 
 particularly interested in performance, reliability, =
interface to 
 printers. What databases are you using?
 The client is happy to continue with text-based =
screens - they 
 currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users =
plenty of options 
 for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT =
combination also be 
 customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH =
Web?
 Any other observations or thoughts welcome!

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Luan Ha</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au</FONT>
</P>

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