PowerHouse on Linux
Craig Lalley
mr_lalley@yahoo.com
Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:58:09 -0800 (PST)
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Jeff,
You and I share the same dream.
-Craig
Jeff Hoffman <wonicon@optushome.com.au> wrote:At 12:38 PM 02-04-03 -0800, Chuck Reinke wrote:
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Arial
Well this is an
interesting economic analysis. Programming talent must be little valued
in Australia. In the US the cost you cite might buy 2 to 10 days of
consulting effort in the US. If programmer makes about $10.00/ hr where
you are, maybe it's a real advantage to develop and maintain a system in
C++, visual basic or something like that.
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Very true my friend, however I have this dream, that small business could
be advantaged by purchasing a package developed in PH.
As we all know it is more cost effective to develop a system using PH and
more versatile with maintenance.
I ran a shop using 2 developers using PH, doing the same work as another
shop employing upto 10 developers using Powerbuilder.
How can PC packages be develop using C++ etc that should cost a lot more
to be produced and maintained, be sold for less than a US$500, yet if we
did the same with PH the starting price has to include the US$3,000 PH
licence, before you add development costs.
I guess I will just keep on dreaming.
Jeff
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Jeff Hoffman
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wrote:
Another reason that PH will not advance is cost, I was just looking at PH
8.41 on Win2000 and if I developed a system for a customer there would be
immediately a $6,000 ($australian approx 3,000 $US) upfront cost for just
the PH licenece (one developer / five user run-time / five user data
access) I would then have to recover development costs. This would put the
Kybo on most projects.
I remember when the current OS that was happening was OS/2 vs the yet to be released Win95, circa 1995. That year I went to Comdex.
IBM was trying to sell thier developers kits for $395 (I think, it may have been more.)
Microsoft was giving them away by the handful.
The rest is history.
-Craig
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<P>Jeff,
<P>You and I share the same dream.
<P>-Craig
<P> <B><I>Jeff Hoffman <wonicon@optushome.com.au></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">At 12:38 PM 02-04-03 -0800, Chuck Reinke wrote: <BR><BR>>>>><BR><BR><EXCERPT><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Arial</PARAM><SMALLER>Well this is an<BR>interesting economic analysis. Programming talent must be little valued<BR>in Australia. In the US the cost you cite might buy 2 to 10 days of<BR>consulting effort in the US. If programmer makes about $10.00/ hr where<BR>you are, maybe it's a real advantage to develop and maintain a system in<BR>C++, visual basic or something like that.<BR><BR></SMALLER></FONTFAMILY><BR><BR></EXCERPT><<<<<<<<<BR><BR>Very true my friend, however I have this dream, that small business could<BR>be advantaged by purchasing a package developed in PH.<BR><BR><BR>As we all know it is more cost effective to develop a system using PH and<BR>more versatile with maintenance.<BR><BR><BR>I ran a shop using 2 developers using PH, doing the same work!
as another<BR>shop employing upto 10 developers using Powerbuilder.<BR><BR><BR>How can PC packages be develop using C++ etc that should cost a lot more<BR>to be produced and maintained, be sold for less than a US$500, yet if we<BR>did the same with PH the starting price has to include the US$3,000 PH<BR>licence, before you add development costs.<BR><BR><BR>I guess I will just keep on dreaming.<BR><BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>>>>><BR><BR><EXCERPT><BR><BR><BR><BR><EXCERPT>----- Original Message ----- <BR><BR><BOLD>From:</BOLD> <<mailto:mr_lalley@yahoo.com>Craig Lalley <BR><BR><BOLD>To:</BOLD> <<mailto:wonicon@optushome.com.au>Jeff Hoffman ;<BR><<mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu>powerh-l@lists.swau.edu <BR><BR><BOLD>Sent:</BOLD> Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:54 PM<BR><BR><BOLD>Subject:</BOLD> Re: PowerHouse on Linux<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BOLD><ITALIC>Jeff Hoffman<BR><<<<mailto:wonicon@optushome.com.au>wonicon@optushome.com.au></ITALIC><BR>wrote!
: <BR><BR><EXCERPT><BR><BR>Another reason that PH will not advance is
cost, I was just looking at PH<BR><BR>8.41 on Win2000 and if I developed a system for a customer there would be<BR><BR>immediately a $6,000 ($australian approx 3,000 $US) upfront cost for just<BR><BR>the PH licenece (one developer / five user run-time / five user data<BR><BR>access) I would then have to recover development costs. This would put the<BR><BR>Kybo on most projects.<BR><BR></EXCERPT><BR><BR>I remember when the current OS that was happening was OS/2 vs the yet to be released Win95, circa 1995. That year I went to Comdex. <BR><BR><BR><BR>IBM was trying to sell thier developers kits for $395 (I think, it may have been more.)<BR><BR><BR><BR>Microsoft was giving them away by the handful. <BR><BR><BR><BR>The rest is history.<BR><BR><BR><BR>-Craig<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>----------<BR><BR>Do you Yahoo!?<BR><BR><<HTTP: tax.yahoo.com *http: mailsig finance us.rd.yahoo.com>Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more<BR><BR></BOLD></EXCERPT><BOLD><BR!
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