OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and
OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Chris Sharman
chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk
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RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB
on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.The VMS73_UPDATE patch is an amalgamation, composed
of about 20 earlier patches, including two for RMS. If you're running VMS
7.3, and aren't up to date with patches, I'd strongly recommend installing
it (it's a "level 1, all systems" patch). See the url for details. The issue
that's still outstanding is the new XFC caching - as I've said before, turn
it off, or you risk trashing your disks. [7.3 is, despite the number, a
major release of VMS.]
http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-axpvms-vms73_u
pdate-v0100--4.README
-----Original Message-----
From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:allison.hamilton@cognos.com]
Sent: 06 February 2002 20:31
To: mx% llitman@exchange.hsc.mb.ca; mx% powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and
OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
The RMS problem does not exist in 7.2 that we know of.
OracleRdb did not have this problem as noted in a subsequent message from
me quoted below, but version 7.0.6.2 has a problem with deadlocks with
OpenVMS 7.2-2. After upgrading OracleRdb the customer no longer experienced
the deadlocks.
"Just to clarify, this particular problem is not with OracleRDB, but just
with RMS. There have been some OracleRDB deadlock problems reported with
OpenVMS 7.2-2 that the customer has reported seem to be resolved by
upgrading to OracleRDB version 7.0.6.3. "
-----Original Message-----
From: Lorry Litman [mailto:LLitman@exchange.hsc.mb.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:16 PM
To: 'Boyle, Joe'; 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com;
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS
and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Hi Joe,
Do you know if this problem also exists under VMS 7.2?
Does the version of OracleRDB matter?
Thanx
Lorry
-----Original Message-----
From: Boyle, Joe [mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:39 AM
To: 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS
and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Hi all,
I forgot to add that we haven't had the opportunity to test this with
the 8 series at yet, but we suspect that the same problem will exist there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Boyle, Joe [mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]
Sent: 06 February 2002 17:33
To: 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both
RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Hi all,
there is a known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3
with the 7.10.Gn line.
The error message is 'Error message %SYSTEM-F-CVTUNGRANT, cannot
convert an ungranted lock.'
The latest information available is that service pack
VMS73_UPDATE-V0100 resolves this issue.
Full details of the patches can be found at URL below,
http://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-axpvms-vms73_update-v
0100--4.README
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk]
Sent: 12 December 2001 15:26
To: ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade
>The Cognos web site shows that there are users known to be running
7.10G
>under 7.2 VMS. Is there anybody here who has experience of such an
upgrade
>who could tell me of any problems or concerns relating to
Powerhouse?
We moved from VMS 7.1 to 7.3 recently. Powerhouse remained on
7.10G3.
The VMS upgrade was relatively pain-free, and there were no
PH-related
issues.
VMS issues: the new XFC caching is seriously flakey and should be
turned
off: stick with the old VIOC caching (VCC_FLAGS=1).
If you're using GoldFax, don't reinstall the ancient & venerable DCE
1.3
that comes with it - DCE is now up to V3.0, and gets mightily
confused if
you downgrade it that far.
TCP/IP - we moved up from 4.2-2 to 5.1 at the same time - is a
little more
painful, but there's plenty of ECOs out now.
Some nice RMS enhancements (no query locking) which ought to help PH
along,
but I've been too busy to benchmark.
7.2-2 is billed as the 7.2 final version, for folk that don't want
to move
up from 7.2 or 7.2-1 to 7.3. I chose to skip 7.2 altogether & go for
7.3
(it's obviously going to have a longer support life).
Regards,
Chris Sharman
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VMS73_UPDATE patch is an amalgamation, composed of about 20 earlier =
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Hamilton, Allison=20
[mailto:allison.hamilton@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 February 2002=20
20:31<BR><B>To:</B> mx% llitman@exchange.hsc.mb.ca; mx%=20
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OpenVMS upgrade there =
is a=20
known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with=20
7.10.G.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D644002020-06022002>The=20
RMS problem does not exist in 7.2 that we know of.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D644002020-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D644002020-06022002>OracleRdb did not have this problem as =
noted in a=20
subsequent message from me quoted below, but version 7.0.6.2 has a =
problem=20
with deadlocks with OpenVMS 7.2-2. After upgrading =
OracleRdb the=20
customer no longer experienced the deadlocks.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D644002020-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D644002020-06022002><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D648202318-06022002>"Just to clarify, this particular problem =
is not with=20
OracleRDB, but just with RMS. There have been some OracleRDB =
deadlock=20
problems reported with OpenVMS 7.2-2 that the customer has reported =
seem to be=20
resolved by upgrading to OracleRDB version <FONT=20
size=3D2>7.0.6.3. "</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Lorry Litman=20
[mailto:LLitman@exchange.hsc.mb.ca]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
February 06,=20
2002 1:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Boyle, Joe'; 'Chris Sharman';=20
ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE:=20
OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and =
OracleRDB on=20
VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D567510518-06022002>Hi=20
Joe,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D567510518-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D567510518-06022002>Do=20
you know if this problem also exists under VMS =
7.2?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D567510518-06022002>Does the version of OracleRDB=20
matter?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D567510518-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D567510518-06022002>Thanx</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D567510518-06022002> =20
Lorry</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Boyle, Joe=20
[mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February =
06, 2002=20
11:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com;=20
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OpenVMS upgrade =
there is a=20
known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with=20
7.10.G.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P><SPAN class=3D198023717-06022002></SPAN><FONT size=3D2>H<SPAN=20
class=3D198023717-06022002>i all,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I<SPAN class=3D198023717-06022002> forgot to add =
that=20
</SPAN>we haven't had the opportunity to test <SPAN=20
class=3D198023717-06022002>this</SPAN> with the 8 series at =
yet, <SPAN=20
class=3D198023717-06022002>but </SPAN>we suspect that the same =
problem will=20
exist there.</FONT></P></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Boyle, Joe=20
[mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 February 2002=20
17:33<BR><B>To:</B> 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com;=20
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OpenVMS upgrade =
there is=20
a known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with=20
7.10.G.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>there is a known issue affecting both RMS and =
OracleRDB=20
on VMS 7.3 with the 7.10.Gn line. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The error message is 'Error message=20
%SYSTEM-F-CVTUNGRANT, cannot convert an ungranted lock.'</FONT> =
</P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The latest information available is that =
service pack=20
VMS73_UPDATE-V0100 resolves this issue. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Full details of the patches can be found at =
URL=20
below,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-axpvms-vms=
73_update-v0100--4.README"=20
=
target=3D_blank>http://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-ax=
pvms-vms73_update-v0100--4.README</A></FONT>=20
</P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
Chris Sharman [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk">mailto:chris.sharman@ccagrou=
p.co.uk</A>]</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: 12 December 2001 15:26</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>To: ian.wedge@ramesys.com; =
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade</FONT> =
</P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>The Cognos web site shows that there are =
users known=20
to be running 7.10G</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>>under 7.2 VMS. =
Is there=20
anybody here who has experience of such an upgrade</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>>who could tell me of any problems or concerns =
relating to=20
Powerhouse?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>We moved from VMS 7.1 to 7.3 recently. =
Powerhouse=20
remained on 7.10G3.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>The VMS upgrade =
was=20
relatively pain-free, and there were no PH-related</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>issues.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>VMS issues: the new XFC caching is seriously =
flakey and=20
should be turned</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>off: stick with the =
old VIOC=20
caching (VCC_FLAGS=3D1).</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>If you're =
using GoldFax,=20
don't reinstall the ancient & venerable DCE 1.3</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>that comes with it - DCE is now up to V3.0, and gets =
mightily=20
confused if</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>you downgrade it that =
far.</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>TCP/IP - we moved up from 4.2-2 to 5.1 at the =
same time=20
- is a little more</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>painful, but =
there's plenty=20
of ECOs out now.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Some nice RMS enhancements (no query locking) =
which=20
ought to help PH along,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>but I've been =
too busy=20
to benchmark.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>7.2-2 is billed as the 7.2 final version, for =
folk that=20
don't want to move</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>up from 7.2 or =
7.2-1 to 7.3.=20
I chose to skip 7.2 altogether & go for 7.3</FONT> <BR><FONT =
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life).</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Chris =
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