OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and
OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Hamilton, Allison
Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM
Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:18:41 -0500
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The RMS problem does not exist in 7.2 that we know of.
OracleRdb did not have this problem as noted in a subsequent message from me
quoted below, but version 7.0.6.2 has a problem with deadlocks with OpenVMS
7.2-2. After upgrading OracleRdb the customer no longer experienced the
deadlocks.
"Just to clarify, this particular problem is not with OracleRDB, but just
with RMS. There have been some OracleRDB deadlock problems reported with
OpenVMS 7.2-2 that the customer has reported seem to be resolved by
upgrading to OracleRDB version 7.0.6.3. "
-----Original Message-----
From: Lorry Litman [mailto:LLitman@exchange.hsc.mb.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:16 PM
To: 'Boyle, Joe'; 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com;
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and
OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Hi Joe,
Do you know if this problem also exists under VMS 7.2?
Does the version of OracleRDB matter?
Thanx
Lorry
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From: Boyle, Joe [mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:39 AM
To: 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and
OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Hi all,
I forgot to add that we haven't had the opportunity to test this with the 8
series at yet, but we suspect that the same problem will exist there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Boyle, Joe [mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]
Sent: 06 February 2002 17:33
To: 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and
OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with 7.10.G.
Hi all,
there is a known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with the
7.10.Gn line.
The error message is 'Error message %SYSTEM-F-CVTUNGRANT, cannot convert an
ungranted lock.'
The latest information available is that service pack VMS73_UPDATE-V0100
resolves this issue.
Full details of the patches can be found at URL below,
http://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-axpvms-vms73_update-v
0100--4.README
<http://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-axpvms-vms73_update-
v0100--4.README>
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sharman [ mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk
<mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk> ]
Sent: 12 December 2001 15:26
To: ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade
>The Cognos web site shows that there are users known to be running 7.10G
>under 7.2 VMS. Is there anybody here who has experience of such an upgrade
>who could tell me of any problems or concerns relating to Powerhouse?
We moved from VMS 7.1 to 7.3 recently. Powerhouse remained on 7.10G3.
The VMS upgrade was relatively pain-free, and there were no PH-related
issues.
VMS issues: the new XFC caching is seriously flakey and should be turned
off: stick with the old VIOC caching (VCC_FLAGS=1).
If you're using GoldFax, don't reinstall the ancient & venerable DCE 1.3
that comes with it - DCE is now up to V3.0, and gets mightily confused if
you downgrade it that far.
TCP/IP - we moved up from 4.2-2 to 5.1 at the same time - is a little more
painful, but there's plenty of ECOs out now.
Some nice RMS enhancements (no query locking) which ought to help PH along,
but I've been too busy to benchmark.
7.2-2 is billed as the 7.2 final version, for folk that don't want to move
up from 7.2 or 7.2-1 to 7.3. I chose to skip 7.2 altogether & go for 7.3
(it's obviously going to have a longer support life).
Regards,
Chris Sharman
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=644002020-06022002>The
RMS problem does not exist in 7.2 that we know of.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=644002020-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=644002020-06022002>OracleRdb did not have this problem as noted in a
subsequent message from me quoted below, but version 7.0.6.2 has a problem
with deadlocks with OpenVMS 7.2-2. After upgrading OracleRdb the
customer no longer experienced the deadlocks.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=644002020-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=644002020-06022002><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=648202318-06022002>"Just to clarify,
this particular problem is not with OracleRDB, but just with RMS. There
have been some OracleRDB deadlock problems reported with OpenVMS 7.2-2 that the
customer has reported seem to be resolved by upgrading to OracleRDB version
<FONT size=2>7.0.6.3. "</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Lorry Litman
[mailto:LLitman@exchange.hsc.mb.ca]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 06,
2002 1:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Boyle, Joe'; 'Chris Sharman';
ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OpenVMS
upgrade there is a known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3
with 7.10.G.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=567510518-06022002>Hi
Joe,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=567510518-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=567510518-06022002>Do
you know if this problem also exists under VMS 7.2?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=567510518-06022002>Does
the version of OracleRDB matter?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=567510518-06022002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=567510518-06022002>Thanx</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=567510518-06022002>
Lorry</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Boyle, Joe
[mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 06, 2002
11:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com;
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a
known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with
7.10.G.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P><SPAN class=198023717-06022002></SPAN><FONT size=2>H<SPAN
class=198023717-06022002>i all,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>I<SPAN class=198023717-06022002> forgot to add that
</SPAN>we haven't had the opportunity to test <SPAN
class=198023717-06022002>this</SPAN> with the 8 series at yet, <SPAN
class=198023717-06022002>but </SPAN>we suspect that the same problem will
exist there.</FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Boyle, Joe
[mailto:Joe.Boyle@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 February 2002
17:33<BR><B>To:</B> 'Chris Sharman'; ian.wedge@ramesys.com;
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OpenVMS upgrade there is a
known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on VMS 7.3 with
7.10.G.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<P><FONT size=2>Hi all,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>there is a known issue affecting both RMS and OracleRDB on
VMS 7.3 with the 7.10.Gn line. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>The error message is 'Error message %SYSTEM-F-CVTUNGRANT,
cannot convert an ungranted lock.'</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>The latest information available is that service pack
VMS73_UPDATE-V0100 resolves this issue. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Full details of the patches can be found at URL
below,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><A
href="http://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-axpvms-vms73_update-v0100--4.README"
target=_blank>http://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.3/dec-axpvms-vms73_update-v0100--4.README</A></FONT>
</P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Chris Sharman [<A
href="mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk">mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: 12 December 2001 15:26</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To:
ian.wedge@ramesys.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Subject: RE: OpenVMS upgrade</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>>The Cognos web site shows that there are users known
to be running 7.10G</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>under 7.2 VMS. Is there
anybody here who has experience of such an upgrade</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>>who could tell me of any problems or concerns relating to
Powerhouse?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>We moved from VMS 7.1 to 7.3 recently. Powerhouse remained
on 7.10G3.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The VMS upgrade was relatively
pain-free, and there were no PH-related</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>issues.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>VMS issues: the new XFC caching is seriously flakey and
should be turned</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>off: stick with the old VIOC
caching (VCC_FLAGS=1).</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>If you're using GoldFax,
don't reinstall the ancient & venerable DCE 1.3</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>that comes with it - DCE is now up to V3.0, and gets mightily
confused if</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>you downgrade it that far.</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>TCP/IP - we moved up from 4.2-2 to 5.1 at the same time -
is a little more</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>painful, but there's plenty of
ECOs out now.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Some nice RMS enhancements (no query locking) which ought
to help PH along,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>but I've been too busy to
benchmark.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>7.2-2 is billed as the 7.2 final version, for folk that
don't want to move</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>up from 7.2 or 7.2-1 to 7.3. I
chose to skip 7.2 altogether & go for 7.3</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>(it's obviously going to have a longer support life).</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Chris Sharman</FONT>
</P><BR><BR>
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