Cognos coversion from mainframe to P

[Jon Hawks]

Hey.  You owe me $10 bucks man!

--- Jared Stone <jared_stone@excite.com> wrote:
> Quit, while you're ahead old friend.  We've enjoyed
> your writing all day.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:01:14 -0700 (PDT), Jon Hawks
> wrote:
> 
> > This is notable.
> > I enjoyed the workstations and their reliability. 
> The
> > SUN networking scheme is something to applaud when
> you
> > have the network infrastructure to support them.  
> > I'm sorry to hear the hp's have failed you.  But,
> they
> > aren't infallible.  We sometimes need to hear
> sobering
> > evidence that our one of our favored platforms,
> didn't
> > play well.  HP, DEC, DG, IBM have been our
> mainstays. 
> > 
> > Since, I have not programmed on a SUN, except in
> > PASCAL, I can't speak to the full experience.  I
> defer
> > to yours until evidence overcomes the view.
> > 
> > --- Richard Witkopp <witkopp@idt.com> wrote:
> > > Well, my opinion of why our HP 9000 problems
> aren't
> > > resolved is that they're junk. Something
> different
> > > seems
> > > to break every time. Meanwhile, our Suns that
> are
> > > running
> > > a different app just keep motoring. The Sun
> > > workstation I
> > > used to use would run for months until I would
> > > manage to
> > > crash it. When I worked in software tech
> support,
> > > the HP-UX
> > > versions always gave us more troubles than the
> Sun,
> > > DEC, and
> > > even IBM AIX versions did. Not that I'm a fan of
> ANY
> > > Unix.
> > > 
> > > > So, to emphasize the 'inevitable' clause, if
> you
> > > have
> > > > to be saddled with a Unix box, the hp 9000's
> are
> > > part
> > > > of the family and part of the suggestion to
> > > > 'consider'.
> > > > However, I do appreciate all of us who have
> been
> > > > 'vax-inated'.  I too became a fan of DEC.  I
> > > really
> > > > enjoyed their editor's, the finest I've known.
>  I
> > > > loved their simplicity and depth of technical
> > > > lexical's and such. But, she's faced with a
> SUN. 
> > > > Don't get me wrong, I like Scott Mcnealy. 
> It's
> > > just
> > > > that if I were going to be looking at Unix,
> and I
> > > own
> > > > an HP3000, I'd still look to the hp 9000's. 
> What
> > > > seems out of focus, here, is your paradigm
> about
> > > the
> > > > hp9000's.  I believe that you might have
> problems,
> > > > but, I don't know why they aren't resolved.  
> > > > 
> > > > I once met a contractor, who managed other
> > > > contractor's at a healthcare facility.  He
> would
> > > get
> > > > people fired because they were weird.  He once
> > > accused
> > > > me of generating printed technical documents
> he'd
> > > > never seen in his life! They were
> header/footer
> > > > banner's from MPEX and some from Qedit.  Since
> > > he'd
> > > > been on hp for 9 years I thought he might have
> > > known
> > > > what they were.  He didn't and I got accused
> of
> > > > wrong-doing because he just didn't know.  And
> they
> > > > thought he was an expert!  
> > > > 
> > > > So far, I found among our peers that the last,
> > > > well-known system that we are experts on, is
> > > usually
> > > > the latest and greatest technology in the
> > > industry. 
> > > > Even when we are weird we can cite our great
> > > status by
> > > > telling others about our technical prowess and
> > > proudly
> > > > display our horn of honor.  
> > > > 
> > > > Anyway, I can only say that of the ibm 33xx,
> 309x,
> > > > as/400, rs 6000, s/34, s/36, s/38, honeywell,
> hp,
> > > dec,
> > > > burroughs, univac, unisys, mohawk, cdc,
> compaq,
> > > dell,
> > > > ncr, amdahl, sequoia, bull, pyramid, xerox
> sigma
> > > vi,
> > > > texas instrument 990, hhhhhhhhhhhhh-big
> breath---,
> > > > britton-lee, vip, nec, macintosh, apple, sun,
> data
> > > > general, at&t, tandem, radio shack, cascade
> > > concept,
> > > > et al, computers that I've been on, they all
> start
> > > to
> > > > look the same.  they all suck, at some point,
> > > usually
> > > > when I'm learning them.  they all start
> looking
> > > > better, when I get to know them.  they all
> crash. 
> > > So,
> > > > I just wanted to let you know that since this
> > > > week,when I spinning up on PICK, it sucks. 
> but, i
> > > > believe i'll like it later.  
> > > > 
> > > > But, I will share this opinion with you, about
> a
> > > very
> > > > important piece of gear, we need.  Shoes. 
> Man, I
> > > > can't find a comfortable pair of shoes.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Richard Witkopp <witkopp@idt.com> wrote:
> > > > > > The last few e-mail's aside, I would
> consider
> > > the
> > > > > > inevitable and think over what it would be
> > > like in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > new environment.  Skill
> sets,administrative
> > > costs,
> > > > > > efforts, etc.  Be in the future
> environment
> > > and
> > > > > > discuss this with cohorts.  Here,even.
> There's
> > > a
> > > > > few
> > > > > > good speculators that can draw the picture
> of
> > > this
> > > > > > environment and put a cost figure to it. 
> > > Also,
> > > > > you'll
> > > > > > have think over the benefits.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I would consider convincing the folks
> behind
> > > the
> > > > > push
> > > > > > to Unix, to consider the HP 9000 series
> and
> > > stay
> > > > > with
> > > > > > a single vendor if possible.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ugh! The HP 9000's that we've recently
> acquired
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > nothing but trouble. There hasn't been a 3
> week
> > > > > period gone
> > > > > by where they haven't crashed, broken, or
> > > otherwise
> > > > > had
> > > > > problems. Not to mention HP-UX is a little
> > > "weird".
> > > > > 
> 
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