Cognos coversion from mainframe to P

Jared Stone jared_stone@excite.com
Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:33:14 PDT 

Quit, while you're ahead old friend.  We've enjoyed your writing all day.


On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:01:14 -0700 (PDT), Jon Hawks wrote:

> This is notable.
> I enjoyed the workstations and their reliability.  The
> SUN networking scheme is something to applaud when you
> have the network infrastructure to support them.  
> I'm sorry to hear the hp's have failed you.  But, they
> aren't infallible.  We sometimes need to hear sobering
> evidence that our one of our favored platforms, didn't
> play well.  HP, DEC, DG, IBM have been our mainstays. 
> 
> Since, I have not programmed on a SUN, except in
> PASCAL, I can't speak to the full experience.  I defer
> to yours until evidence overcomes the view.
> 
> --- Richard Witkopp <witkopp@idt.com> wrote:
> > Well, my opinion of why our HP 9000 problems aren't
> > resolved is that they're junk. Something different
> > seems
> > to break every time. Meanwhile, our Suns that are
> > running
> > a different app just keep motoring. The Sun
> > workstation I
> > used to use would run for months until I would
> > manage to
> > crash it. When I worked in software tech support,
> > the HP-UX
> > versions always gave us more troubles than the Sun,
> > DEC, and
> > even IBM AIX versions did. Not that I'm a fan of ANY
> > Unix.
> > 
> > > So, to emphasize the 'inevitable' clause, if you
> > have
> > > to be saddled with a Unix box, the hp 9000's are
> > part
> > > of the family and part of the suggestion to
> > > 'consider'.
> > > However, I do appreciate all of us who have been
> > > 'vax-inated'.  I too became a fan of DEC.  I
> > really
> > > enjoyed their editor's, the finest I've known.  I
> > > loved their simplicity and depth of technical
> > > lexical's and such. But, she's faced with a SUN. 
> > > Don't get me wrong, I like Scott Mcnealy.  It's
> > just
> > > that if I were going to be looking at Unix, and I
> > own
> > > an HP3000, I'd still look to the hp 9000's.  What
> > > seems out of focus, here, is your paradigm about
> > the
> > > hp9000's.  I believe that you might have problems,
> > > but, I don't know why they aren't resolved.  
> > > 
> > > I once met a contractor, who managed other
> > > contractor's at a healthcare facility.  He would
> > get
> > > people fired because they were weird.  He once
> > accused
> > > me of generating printed technical documents he'd
> > > never seen in his life! They were header/footer
> > > banner's from MPEX and some from Qedit.  Since
> > he'd
> > > been on hp for 9 years I thought he might have
> > known
> > > what they were.  He didn't and I got accused of
> > > wrong-doing because he just didn't know.  And they
> > > thought he was an expert!  
> > > 
> > > So far, I found among our peers that the last,
> > > well-known system that we are experts on, is
> > usually
> > > the latest and greatest technology in the
> > industry. 
> > > Even when we are weird we can cite our great
> > status by
> > > telling others about our technical prowess and
> > proudly
> > > display our horn of honor.  
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I can only say that of the ibm 33xx, 309x,
> > > as/400, rs 6000, s/34, s/36, s/38, honeywell, hp,
> > dec,
> > > burroughs, univac, unisys, mohawk, cdc, compaq,
> > dell,
> > > ncr, amdahl, sequoia, bull, pyramid, xerox sigma
> > vi,
> > > texas instrument 990, hhhhhhhhhhhhh-big breath---,
> > > britton-lee, vip, nec, macintosh, apple, sun, data
> > > general, at&t, tandem, radio shack, cascade
> > concept,
> > > et al, computers that I've been on, they all start
> > to
> > > look the same.  they all suck, at some point,
> > usually
> > > when I'm learning them.  they all start looking
> > > better, when I get to know them.  they all crash. 
> > So,
> > > I just wanted to let you know that since this
> > > week,when I spinning up on PICK, it sucks.  but, i
> > > believe i'll like it later.  
> > > 
> > > But, I will share this opinion with you, about a
> > very
> > > important piece of gear, we need.  Shoes.  Man, I
> > > can't find a comfortable pair of shoes.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Richard Witkopp <witkopp@idt.com> wrote:
> > > > > The last few e-mail's aside, I would consider
> > the
> > > > > inevitable and think over what it would be
> > like in
> > > > the
> > > > > new environment.  Skill sets,administrative
> > costs,
> > > > > efforts, etc.  Be in the future environment
> > and
> > > > > discuss this with cohorts.  Here,even. There's
> > a
> > > > few
> > > > > good speculators that can draw the picture of
> > this
> > > > > environment and put a cost figure to it. 
> > Also,
> > > > you'll
> > > > > have think over the benefits.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would consider convincing the folks behind
> > the
> > > > push
> > > > > to Unix, to consider the HP 9000 series and
> > stay
> > > > with
> > > > > a single vendor if possible.  
> > > > 
> > > > Ugh! The HP 9000's that we've recently acquired
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > nothing but trouble. There hasn't been a 3 week
> > > > period gone
> > > > by where they haven't crashed, broken, or
> > otherwise
> > > > had
> > > > problems. Not to mention HP-UX is a little
> > "weird".
> > > > 
> > > > Wishing for the good ole Vaxen days....
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