Support venues

Esko Christiansen esko.christiansen@marketmanagement.se
Wed, 20 May 1998 16:46:17 +0200


Hi, just some comments from an old-timer...
Cognos' focus here in Scandinavia is not in any way on ADT (application
development tools), they are totally blind.
I know only one other PH/Axiant user here in Sweden, and they use only the
PH part of Axiant (no windows). WRQ hade some press some time ago on a
Java-based terminal interface for servers like HP-UX, HP/MPE and DEC/VMS, if
that is going to be a product it could lengthen the survival of PH as a
serverbased tool. Nowadays people start to talk servebased again! Thin
clients with a browser would be just fine as an interface for the end-user,
works also on Mac and X-windows devices!
Just my comments...
Esko Christiansen, Market Management System Sverige AB
Sveavägen 76, SE-113 59 Stockholm, Sweden
esko.christiansen@marketmanagement.se


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-powerh-l@sphere.swau.edu
> [mailto:owner-powerh-l@sphere.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> Sent: 20 maj 1998 04:22
> To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> Subject: RE: Support venues
>
>
> PowerHouse is "old" technology which is it's strength and
> we're proud of
> it. COBOL is also old and look how alive it is. Just ask all those
> programmers trying to fix all those legacy systems that companies base
> their livelihood on. But look at what the "old" technology is
> doing. It
> moved into the client/server world years ago. And it's about to move
> onto the web. "Old" is not necessarily bad or out-of-date.
>
> You're right that we say we have three types of users. Those are the
> existing users. It's just good business to categorize them and try to
> retain them. And note that both 2 and 3 want to keep their PowerHouse.
> It's just that type 3 wants to move forward. I don't know that type 1
> necessarily wants a new development tool. Some also are
> moving towards a
> package solution. But we're responding to what our customers
> are asking
> for as best we can. Right now, they're asking for PowerHouse
> on the web.
> And that's what we're doing.
>
> Bob Deskin
> Senior Product Advisor  bob.deskin@cognos.com
> Cognos Inc.             (613) 738-1338 ext 4205 FAX: (613) 228-3149
> 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: 	mao@krifapost.dk[SMTP:mao@krifapost.dk]
> > Sent: 	May 19, 1998 3:28 PM
> > To: 	powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > Subject: 	Re: Support venues
> >
> > Hi there
> >
> > I went to a users conference resently at cognos told us
> that they have
> > 3
> > kind of PH users:
> > 1. Those who want to go to another development tool.
> > 2. Those who want to keep their PH.
> > 3. And those who want to upgrade to the windowsversion.
> >
> > They did´nt mension a fourth group - those who want to learn and use
> > PH as
> > their new
> > programming langue. I guess that´s because they dont have any or...?
> > And
> > that the
> > new customers probably want to use Axiant 2.0. - the rest go back to
> > 3GL!
> > Me impression is that Cognos just want to support their current PH
> > users
> > and then
> > wait for them to extinct.
> >
> > If Cognos just want to focus on their current customers, PH
> will very
> > soon
> > be'old technology'.
> > I our company we belong to the first group of PH users. We are about
> > to
> > change our whole system into a Javabased system, but we still would
> > have
> > to maintain our PH a least the next 3 years.
> >
> > Have a wonderfull day
> >
> > Mikael Olesen, KdF - Denmark
> >
> >
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