PH in Europe
Deskin, Bob
Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM
Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:23:10 -0400
About all I can say at this time is stay tuned. The 4GL Products Group
is very excited about PowerHouse Web. We're expecting it to go to field
test within the next month. We're demoing it at HP World in San Diego in
early August.
As for the PowerHouse name, I put a question to you all. If you hadn't
heard that PowerHouse existed and Cognos announced their new Web
application development tool as PowerHouse Web and said NOTHING about
the fact that it's been around for 20 years, what would you think. My
point is that although we live and breath PowerHouse, it's unknown to
most Web developers and even lots of our BI customers. So unless we
advertise it as old, no one else knows.
I showed PH Web to a Web developer and a few of our BI customers at our
recent user conference and the reaction was the same - cool, neat,
slick. After I did the old SCREEN - FILE - GENERATE - BUILD, one fellow
wanted to know whether we generated Java or C++. Then he wanted to know
where he coded his database access.
Anyone who says that PowerHouse is dead doesn't understand how adaptable
the QUICK engine is. I expect to be here for a fair while yet.
Bob Deskin
Senior Product Advisor bob.deskin@cognos.com
Cognos Inc. (613) 738-1338 ext 4205 FAX: (613) 228-3149
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
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> From: arthur kogan[SMTP:akogan@westpac.com.au]
> Sent: July 24, 1998 12:33 AM
> To: Stewart, Mark
> Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> Subject: Re: PH in Europe
>
> I strongly agree with Mark about the benefit for Cognos in pushing its
> ADT
> tools ESPECIALLY now that they are releasing the WEB version. However,
> I do not
> think it should be marketed as "POWERHOUSE". Instead a new sexy WEB
> sounding
> name should be used.
>
> Maybe we should have a contest for the name with a prize from Cognos
> for the
> winner!!!
>
> I also think it should be pushed in a different way to Powerhouse,
> i.e. it
> should be offered in a bundle with Cognos BI tools as an e-commerce
> application
> builder with easy database connectivity. Maybe Cognos can produce some
> templates for basic apps as it does with BI tools, which can be
> further
> customised. Imagine the size of new revenue if even 10% of Cognos's
> BI
> customers bought this "new" product!!! What about the revenue from
> consulting
> services? It can also serve as a differentiator with other vendors,
> who do not
> have this kind of the complementary product to their BI offerings.
>
> How about it Bob Deskin?
>
> Regards,
>
> Arthur Kogan
> Westpac Financial Services
> Sydney, Australia
>
> Stewart, Mark wrote:
>
> > Cognos ADT products will be dead if there continues
> > to be more abandonment as opposed to adoption. Cognos seems to only
> focus
> > on existing customers for ADT products. Now that Axiant is getting
> better
> > and client server is the big thing they should start pushing it as a
> new
> > product for companies. Even that product looks geared totally
> toward
> > PowerHouse migration (existing customers) from a bystanders point
> of view.
> > There is now reason you can't start from scratch with Axiant. They
> don't
> > advertise this though. Again why are they not pushing their ADT
> tools at
> > new customers. They did this years and years ago. They have ADT
> products
> > all over the world. How did they achieve that? Have they forgot
> how to
> > sell ADT products to new customers and not only existing ones.
> >
> > Mark Stewart
> > Consultant
> > OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H1
> > Oracle Rdb V7.0-1
> > PH 4GL 7.10.F4
> >
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