--------------535D5CB672D17DC457EA7E61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that Powerhouse demise has been greatly exaggerated. While it's true that there is not a whole lot of new sales in Powerhouse, I believe that a real alternative has yet to be found. A lot of people are getting sold on the sexiness of Powerbuilder & VB but are going back to the old Cobol standard of development taking 5 times longer that Powerhouse. Unfortunately for them these new, sexy products do not have the performance benefits of Cobol. I've personally know of two companies that wanted to redo their Powerhouse applications in VB, spent many months working on it and gave up. One has a couple of modules in VB and the other trashed the project and layed off/fired all their VB employees. I've also heard of a very large US company that made it a mission to get rid of Powerhouse 4 years ago and after spending $100 million have replaced a very small percentage of their systems in Powerbuilder & Oracle. I liken it to going through a mid-life crisis. They leave their un-sexy Powerhouse for the new, hot & sexy sweet-young-things and find that good looks doesn't necessarily come with brains, know-how or usefulness. As far as Canada is concerned there is a fair amount of work all over. Toronto pays the best. Vancouver is a nicer place to live but pays somewhat less and costs a little more than Toronto to live. Calgary pays less but costs a lot less to live in. Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. p.s. These views do reflect the views of my company but I am known to be a Powerhouse bigot... Stewart, Mark wrote: > It depends on the employment agency you talk to. I've spoke to one agency > and one I told them I had PowerHouse they felt sorry for me. I was at a > dead end (according to them) and after they hired me they would see to it > that I'd be trained in some other technology. Other recruiters at other > agencies acted like they won the lottery when they actually found someone > who know PowerHouse. They thought PowerHouse was the greatest thing for > someone to have. When I posted my resume through a number of Internet > consultant/client professional databases in February 98' it was distributed > to over 2000 companies. I received 40 job offers all over the Canada and > the U.S. for PowerHouse within a week! Pretty good for a dead language. > You'll find people all over the place that for some reason think that their > PowerHouse site is one of the last. Some people even think since they have > spent so much money through the years they can some how get Cognos to put > modifications into PowerHouse just for them. As if no one else has paid > Cognos a few dollars through out the years. As far is new sites go I > haven't heard of any. Cognos ADT products will be dead if there continues > to be more abandonment as opposed to adoption. Cognos seems to only focus > on existing customers for ADT products. Now that Axiant is getting better > and client server is the big thing they should start pushing it as a new > product for companies. Even that product looks geared totally toward > PowerHouse migration (existing customers) from a bystanders point of view. > There is now reason you can't start from scratch with Axiant. They don't > advertise this though. Again why are they not pushing their ADT tools at > new customers. They did this years and years ago. They have ADT products > all over the world. How did they achieve that? Have they forgot how to > sell ADT products to new customers and not only existing ones. > > Mark Stewart > Consultant > OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H1 > Oracle Rdb V7.0-1 > PH 4GL 7.10.F4 > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Subscribe: "subscribe powerh-l" in message body to majordomo@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe powerh-l" in message to majordomo@lists.swau.edu > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu is gatewayed one-way to bit.listserv.powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list, you must be a subscriber. --------------535D5CB672D17DC457EA7E61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that Powerhouse demise has been greatly exaggerated. While it's true that there is not a whole lot of new sales in Powerhouse, I believe that a real alternative has yet to be found. A lot of people are getting sold on the sexiness of Powerbuilder & VB but are going back to the old Cobol standard of development taking 5 times longer that Powerhouse. Unfortunately for them these new, sexy products do not have the performance benefits of Cobol.I've personally know of two companies that wanted to redo their Powerhouse applications in VB, spent many months working on it and gave up. One has a couple of modules in VB and the other trashed the project and layed off/fired all their VB employees. I've also heard of a very large US company that made it a mission to get rid of Powerhouse 4 years ago and after spending $100 million have replaced a very small percentage of their systems in Powerbuilder & Oracle.
I liken it to going through a mid-life crisis. They leave their un-sexy Powerhouse for the new, hot & sexy sweet-young-things and find that good looks doesn't necessarily come with brains, know-how or usefulness.
As far as Canada is concerned there is a fair amount of work all over. Toronto pays the best. Vancouver is a nicer place to live but pays somewhat less and costs a little more than Toronto to live. Calgary pays less but costs a lot less to live in.
Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.p.s. These views do reflect the views of my company but I am known to be a Powerhouse bigot...
Stewart, Mark wrote:
It depends on the employment agency you talk to. I've spoke to one agency
and one I told them I had PowerHouse they felt sorry for me. I was at a
dead end (according to them) and after they hired me they would see to it
that I'd be trained in some other technology. Other recruiters at other
agencies acted like they won the lottery when they actually found someone
who know PowerHouse. They thought PowerHouse was the greatest thing for
someone to have. When I posted my resume through a number of Internet
consultant/client professional databases in February 98' it was distributed
to over 2000 companies. I received 40 job offers all over the Canada and
the U.S. for PowerHouse within a week! Pretty good for a dead language.
You'll find people all over the place that for some reason think that their
PowerHouse site is one of the last. Some people even think since they have
spent so much money through the years they can some how get Cognos to put
modifications into PowerHouse just for them. As if no one else has paid
Cognos a few dollars through out the years. As far is new sites go I
haven't heard of any. Cognos ADT products will be dead if there continues
to be more abandonment as opposed to adoption. Cognos seems to only focus
on existing customers for ADT products. Now that Axiant is getting better
and client server is the big thing they should start pushing it as a new
product for companies. Even that product looks geared totally toward
PowerHouse migration (existing customers) from a bystanders point of view.
There is now reason you can't start from scratch with Axiant. They don't
advertise this though. Again why are they not pushing their ADT tools at
new customers. They did this years and years ago. They have ADT products
all over the world. How did they achieve that? Have they forgot how to
sell ADT products to new customers and not only existing ones.Mark Stewart
Consultant
OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H1
Oracle Rdb V7.0-1
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