Quick (As in QDESIGN) Question:

Fri Dec 11 11:39:41 CST 2009

-8!  Only in my fantasies!  Up here in northern Manitoba it was -29 or
30 this morning and that's still warmer than what's on the way!
On the other hand, there's no snow to speak of, so that's not so bad.

Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. 

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca at lists.sowder.com] On Behalf
Of Bob Deskin
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:10 AM
To: Penney, John
Cc: power-l
Subject: RE: Quick (As in QDESIGN) Question:

If they were trying to suppress auto initialization for the whole file,
NOITEMS would be better, but I can see using ITEM statements to suppress
just a few.

Winter hit Wednesday (about 8 inches of snow) but it's going up to 6 C
on Tuesday. And then back down to -8 on Wednesday. Tis the season :-)

Bob

From:
"Penney, John" <resolutebay at yahoo.com>
To:
Bob Deskin/Ottawa/IBM at IBMCA
Cc:
power-l <powerh-l at lists.sowder.com>
Date:
12/11/2009 11:56 AM
Subject:
RE: Quick (As in QDESIGN) Question:

Thanks, Bob:

Well, it is a PRIMARY file and I see this sloppy ITEM statement used for
a whack of table variables.

The context and usage consists purely of an ITEM statement with no
value, no other program references.

FWIW Dictionary states ZONED UNSIGNED size 4; Rdb Integer size 2....

How are things in ON?

John M Penney
1532 Fern Street SW
Olympia, WA  98502

(360)789-8159

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Bob Deskin <Bob.Deskin at ca.ibm.com> wrote:

From: Bob Deskin <Bob.Deskin at ca.ibm.com>
Subject: RE: Quick (As in QDESIGN) Question:
To: "Pickering, John (NORBORD)" <John.Pickering at norbord.com>
Cc: "Penney, John" <resolutebay at yahoo.com>, 
powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=ca.ibm.com at lists.sowder.com, "power-l" 
<powerh-l at lists.sowder.com>
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 10:43 AM

That would certainly be the net effect. QUICK always initializes to
default values first, regardless of anything else, but I can't remember
whether you'd get dictionary initial values as well.

The context and usage of the item should tell you why the ITEM statement
was there.

Bob

From:
"Pickering, John (NORBORD)" <John.Pickering at norbord.com>
To:
"Penney, John" <resolutebay at yahoo.com>, "power-l" 
<powerh-l at lists.sowder.com>
Date:
12/11/2009 11:07 AM
Subject:
RE: Quick (As in QDESIGN) Question:
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<WAG>
Maybe this is used to cancel the automatic item initialization that
Qdesign would generate for items in secondary and detail files which
have the same names as items in the primary file?
</WAG>

Regards,
JWP

From: powerh-l-bounces+john.pickering=norbord.com at lists.sowder.com [
mailto:powerh-l-bounces+john.pickering=norbord.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Penney, John
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:53 AM
To: power-l
Subject: Quick (As in QDESIGN) Question:

OK, folks:

It's been a long week, but I came across this construct in a relatively 
mature (13+ years of age) Quick screen:

Item LAST_THERAPY_SEQ_NBR of PARTICIPANTS

Note there is no value or variable assigned, just the "ITEM" and that is

that.

Curious. I think I know the answer, but can anybody splain what the
system 

will assign?

More of a qquestion is why anybody would write code like this.... Nother

story.

Thanks!

John M Penney
1532 Fern Street SW
Olympia, WA  98502

(360)789-8159
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