Subfile Enhancement

Thu Jun 21 11:11:14 CDT 2007

One train of thought is the hardware can be 'variable' like an Intel box
for example. 

Or maybe it could sit under VMWare?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/20/usenix_07_opening_keynote/

Tracy Johnson
Measurement Specialties, Inc. 

BT

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin at Cognos.COM] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:48 AM
> To: Johnson, Tracy; Joe Boyle
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> 
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> We would have to study what the hardware was and what the 
> demand was. I have not heard anything as of yet nor have I 
> had any customer inquiries in that area.
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnson, Tracy [mailto:Tracy.Johnson at meas-spec.com] 
> Sent: June 21, 2007 11:19 AM
> To: Deskin, Bob; Joe Boyle
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> 
> 
> Woo Hoo!  Glad to hear it!
> 
> Hypothetical question Bob:
> 
> If MPE were ported to run on hardware other than an HP3000 
> (and perchance named OpenMPE,) would Cognos modify their 
> support plans to include it?  (Like OpenVMS, only better.)
> 
> Tracy Johnson
> Measurement Specialties, Inc. 
> 
> BT
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin at Cognos.COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:05 AM
> > To: Johnson, Tracy; Joe Boyle
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> > 
> > 
> > Absolutely NOT. There is no such thing as cancelling 
> licenses. Except 
> > for some early licenses, all of licenses are perpetual, 
> non-exclusive, 
> > and non-transferable. So if someone wants to continue using 
> PowerHouse 
> > on MPE for the next 20 years or more, they are perfectly free to do 
> > so.
> > 
> > Support is a different story. Support is typically an annual fee. 
> > While we would love to continue to support PowerHouse on MPE 
> > indefinitely, we can't if our hardware isn't being supported. So we 
> > are as dependant on HP as our customers. We will provide a limited 
> > form of support even after HP stops supporting the HPe3000, mainly 
> > aimed at helping customers migrate off of MPE. This is explained in 
> > our Product Roadmap on our web site at http://powerhouse.cognos.com.
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com
> > [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.co
> > m] On Behalf Of Johnson, Tracy
> > Sent: June 21, 2007 10:40 AM
> > To: Joe Boyle
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> > 
> > 
> > Are you implying Cognos will cancel all their MPE licenses?
> > 
> > (Probably not.)
> > 
> > Since I'm on the OpenMPE Board, I'd certainly want to know 
> about that.
> > 
> > 
> > Tracy Johnson
> > Measurement Specialties, Inc.
> > 
> > BT
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38 at dsl.pipex.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:26 AM
> > To: Johnson, Tracy
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> > 
> > 
> > I thought that PH on MPE was no more - at least in a year or so L
> >  
> > 
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> > 
> > From: powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> > [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> > ] On Behalf Of Johnson, Tracy
> > Sent: 21 June 2007 15:07
> > To: Deskin, Bob; Joe Boyle; Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> >  
> > Except Portable Subfiles on MPE.
> >  
> > (But that's why they're that way, I suppose.)
> >  
> >  
> > Tracy Johnson
> > Measurement Specialties, Inc.
> > 
> > BT
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: powerh-l-bounces+tracy.johnson=meas-spec.com at lists.sowder.com
> > 
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+tracy.johnson=meas-spec.com at lists.sowder.com]
> > On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:56 AM
> > To: Joe Boyle; Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> > I'd have a really hard time selling that idea considering that the 
> > subfile dictionary is a separate file on all platforms except MPE.
> >  
> > Bob
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38 at dsl.pipex.com]
> > Sent: June 21, 2007 9:42 AM
> > To: Deskin, Bob; 'Ken Langendock'; 'Robert Mills'
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> > You could possibly put the description part into an
> > additional file, that way current processing wouldn't be 
> > affected, and all subfile types would then have a description part.
> >  
> > 
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> > 
> > From: powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> > [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> > ] On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> > Sent: 21 June 2007 14:31
> > To: Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> >  
> > Technically speaking, a NODICT subfile is NOT a 
> self-describing file. 
> > It is typically used to interface to some other software, not 
> > PowerHouse. If we start using special records, then the 
> other software 
> > must take that into account. This would be a break from 
> tradition with
> > PowerHouse. I'm not saying that it would not be useful, I'm 
> > just saying that it's not something we've ever done. Besides, 
> > if you want the description or any other dictionary type 
> > information, you can create a regular subfile and ignore the 
> > dictionary portion as required. Just my opinion.
> >  
> > Bob
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Langendock [mailto:Ken at Langendock.com]
> > Sent: June 21, 2007 7:49 AM
> > To: Deskin, Bob; 'Robert Mills'
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> > I think you should allow the DESCRIPTION option on any
> > subfile regardless of NODICT or not for documentation 
> > purposes. Even though it will not appear in the subfile, it 
> > is still useful.
> >  
> > Any chance we can see this "list" once it is finalized????
> >  
> > Ken
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com
> > [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowde
> > r.com] On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> > Sent: June 20, 2007 12:26 PM
> > To: Robert Mills
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> > Interesting. I've never seen this one before. I don't think 
> we would 
> > allow the description if it's a NODICT subfile but the dictionary 
> > certainly has a DESCRIPTION option on the FILE and RECORD 
> statements. 
> > I don't know how difficult it would be to add to the subfile 
> > equivalents and the routines. I'll add it to the list.
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> > Bob
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Mills [mailto:robert.mills at pinnaclearvato.co.uk]
> > Sent: June 20, 2007 12:17 PM
> > To: Deskin, Bob
> > Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> > Subject: Subfile Enhancement
> > Bob,
> >  
> > Continuing with your original request for enhancement requests;
> >  
> > Add a DESCRIPTION option to the SUBFILE statement within 
> QUIZ and QTP 
> > that could be read by QSHOW.
> >  
> > Where would you store the information? If it has a 
> dictionary, within 
> > the minidictionary file. If it doesn't, at the start of the 
> file with 
> > a leading integer value that points to the actual start of 
> data OR do 
> > not allow this option.
> >  
> > regards,
> >   
> > Robert W.Mills
> > Systems Development Manager
> > Pinnacle Arvato 
> > (020) 8309 3604 
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