Subfile Enhancement

Thu Jun 21 10:48:06 CDT 2007

We would have to study what the hardware was and what the demand was. I
have not heard anything as of yet nor have I had any customer inquiries
in that area.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnson, Tracy [mailto:Tracy.Johnson at meas-spec.com] 
Sent: June 21, 2007 11:19 AM
To: Deskin, Bob; Joe Boyle
Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

Woo Hoo!  Glad to hear it!

Hypothetical question Bob:

If MPE were ported to run on hardware other than an HP3000 (and
perchance named OpenMPE,) would Cognos modify their support plans to
include it?  (Like OpenVMS, only better.)

Tracy Johnson
Measurement Specialties, Inc. 

BT

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin at Cognos.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:05 AM
> To: Johnson, Tracy; Joe Boyle
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> 
> 
> Absolutely NOT. There is no such thing as cancelling
> licenses. Except for some early licenses, all of licenses are 
> perpetual, non-exclusive, and non-transferable. So if someone 
> wants to continue using PowerHouse on MPE for the next 20 
> years or more, they are perfectly free to do so.
> 
> Support is a different story. Support is typically an annual
> fee. While we would love to continue to support PowerHouse on 
> MPE indefinitely, we can't if our hardware isn't being 
> supported. So we are as dependant on HP as our customers. We 
> will provide a limited form of support even after HP stops 
> supporting the HPe3000, mainly aimed at helping customers 
> migrate off of MPE. This is explained in our Product Roadmap 
> on our web site at http://powerhouse.cognos.com.
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.co
> m] On Behalf Of Johnson, Tracy
> Sent: June 21, 2007 10:40 AM
> To: Joe Boyle
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> 
> 
> Are you implying Cognos will cancel all their MPE licenses?
> 
> (Probably not.)
> 
> Since I'm on the OpenMPE Board, I'd certainly want to know about that.
> 
> 
> Tracy Johnson
> Measurement Specialties, Inc.
> 
> BT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38 at dsl.pipex.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:26 AM
> To: Johnson, Tracy
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> 
> 
> I thought that PH on MPE was no more - at least in a year or so L
>  
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> From: powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> ] On Behalf Of Johnson, Tracy
> Sent: 21 June 2007 15:07
> To: Deskin, Bob; Joe Boyle; Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
>  
> Except Portable Subfiles on MPE.
>  
> (But that's why they're that way, I suppose.)
>  
>  
> Tracy Johnson
> Measurement Specialties, Inc.
> 
> BT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-bounces+tracy.johnson=meas-spec.com at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+tracy.johnson=meas-spec.com at lists.sowder.com]
> On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:56 AM
> To: Joe Boyle; Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> I'd have a really hard time selling that idea considering
> that the subfile dictionary is a separate file on all 
> platforms except MPE.
>  
> Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38 at dsl.pipex.com]
> Sent: June 21, 2007 9:42 AM
> To: Deskin, Bob; 'Ken Langendock'; 'Robert Mills'
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> You could possibly put the description part into an 
> additional file, that way current processing wouldn't be 
> affected, and all subfile types would then have a description part.
>  
> 
> 
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> From: powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> ] On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> Sent: 21 June 2007 14:31
> To: Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
>  
> Technically speaking, a NODICT subfile is NOT a
> self-describing file. It is typically used to interface to 
> some other software, not PowerHouse. If we start using 
> special records, then the other software must take that into 
> account. This would be a break from tradition with 
> PowerHouse. I'm not saying that it would not be useful, I'm 
> just saying that it's not something we've ever done. Besides, 
> if you want the description or any other dictionary type 
> information, you can create a regular subfile and ignore the 
> dictionary portion as required. Just my opinion.
>  
> Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Langendock [mailto:Ken at Langendock.com]
> Sent: June 21, 2007 7:49 AM
> To: Deskin, Bob; 'Robert Mills'
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> I think you should allow the DESCRIPTION option on any 
> subfile regardless of NODICT or not for documentation 
> purposes. Even though it will not appear in the subfile, it 
> is still useful.
>  
> Any chance we can see this "list" once it is finalized????
>  
> Ken
>  
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> From: powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowde
> r.com] On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> Sent: June 20, 2007 12:26 PM
> To: Robert Mills
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement
> Interesting. I've never seen this one before. I don't think
> we would allow the description if it's a NODICT subfile but 
> the dictionary certainly has a DESCRIPTION option on the FILE 
> and RECORD statements. I don't know how difficult it would be 
> to add to the subfile equivalents and the routines. I'll add 
> it to the list.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Mills [mailto:robert.mills at pinnaclearvato.co.uk]
> Sent: June 20, 2007 12:17 PM
> To: Deskin, Bob
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: Subfile Enhancement
> Bob,
>  
> Continuing with your original request for enhancement requests;
>  
> Add a DESCRIPTION option to the SUBFILE statement within QUIZ
> and QTP that could be read by QSHOW.
>  
> Where would you store the information? If it has a
> dictionary, within the minidictionary file. If it doesn't, at 
> the start of the file with a leading integer value that 
> points to the actual start of data OR do not allow this option.
>  
> regards,
>   
> Robert W.Mills
> Systems Development Manager 
> Pinnacle Arvato 
> (020) 8309 3604 
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