Subfile Enhancement

Thu Jun 21 10:45:46 CDT 2007

It would depend on the terms of the extension. If HP simply extended
what they now have, we would extend our support as long as the business
was viable.

Bob

	-----Original Message-----
	From: powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Mills
	Sent: June 21, 2007 11:26 AM
	To: Deskin, Bob
	Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
	Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

	Bob,

	If HP decide to extend the end-of-support date again will
PowerHouse on MPE also be extended?

	regards, 

	Robert W.Mills 
	Systems Development Manager 
	Pinnacle Arvato 
	(020) 8309 3604 

________________________________

	From:
powerh-l-bounces+robert.mills=pinnaclearvato.co.uk at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+robert.mills=pinnaclearvato.co.uk at lists.sowder.
com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle
	Sent: 21 June 2007 15:54
	To: 'Deskin, Bob'; 'Johnson, Tracy'
	Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
	Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

	The usual apologies, I must have misread it as PH supporting to
2008. 

	Oh well, there is nothing like clearing the air :-)

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	From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin at Cognos.COM] 
	Sent: 21 June 2007 15:42
	To: Joe Boyle; Johnson, Tracy
	Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
	Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

	The last I heard, HP was supporting the HPe3000/MPE until the
end of 2008, and we will support PowerHouse on MPE until then as well.
Once HP's support ends, we will provide a limited form of support for at
least a year after that. 8.49E is being released on MPE and we plan to
release F on MPE as well.

	Bob

		-----Original Message-----
		From:
powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Joe Boyle
		Sent: June 21, 2007 10:26 AM
		To: 'Johnson, Tracy'
		Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
		Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

		I thought that PH on MPE was no more - at least in a
year or so :-(

________________________________

		From:
powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Johnson, Tracy
		Sent: 21 June 2007 15:07
		To: Deskin, Bob; Joe Boyle; Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
		Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
		Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

		Except Portable Subfiles on MPE.

		(But that's why they're that way, I suppose.)

		Tracy Johnson
		Measurement Specialties, Inc.

		BT

		NNNN

			-----Original Message-----
			From:
powerh-l-bounces+tracy.johnson=meas-spec.com at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+tracy.johnson=meas-spec.com at lists.sowder.com]
On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
			Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:56 AM
			To: Joe Boyle; Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
			Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
			Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

			I'd have a really hard time selling that idea
considering that the subfile dictionary is a separate file on all
platforms except MPE.

			Bob

				-----Original Message-----
				From: Joe Boyle
[mailto:atla38 at dsl.pipex.com] 
				Sent: June 21, 2007 9:42 AM
				To: Deskin, Bob; 'Ken Langendock';
'Robert Mills'
				Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
				Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

				You could possibly put the description
part into an additional file, that way current processing wouldn't be
affected, and all subfile types would then have a description part.

________________________________

				From:
powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
				Sent: 21 June 2007 14:31
				To: Ken Langendock; Robert Mills
				Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
				Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

				Technically speaking, a NODICT subfile
is NOT a self-describing file. It is typically used to interface to some
other software, not PowerHouse. If we start using special records, then
the other software must take that into account. This would be a break
from tradition with PowerHouse. I'm not saying that it would not be
useful, I'm just saying that it's not something we've ever done.
Besides, if you want the description or any other dictionary type
information, you can create a regular subfile and ignore the dictionary
portion as required. Just my opinion.

				Bob

				-----Original Message-----
				From: Ken Langendock
[mailto:Ken at Langendock.com] 
				Sent: June 21, 2007 7:49 AM
				To: Deskin, Bob; 'Robert Mills'
				Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
				Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

				I think you should allow the DESCRIPTION
option on any subfile regardless of NODICT or not for documentation
purposes. Even though it will not appear in the subfile, it is still
useful.

				Any chance we can see this "list" once
it is finalized????

				Ken

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				From:
powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com at lists.sowder.com] On
Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
				Sent: June 20, 2007 12:26 PM
				To: Robert Mills
				Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
				Subject: RE: Subfile Enhancement

				Interesting. I've never seen this one
before. I don't think we would allow the description if it's a NODICT
subfile but the dictionary certainly has a DESCRIPTION option on the
FILE and RECORD statements. I don't know how difficult it would be to
add to the subfile equivalents and the routines. I'll add it to the
list.

				Thanks

				Bob

				-----Original Message-----
				From: Robert Mills
[mailto:robert.mills at pinnaclearvato.co.uk] 
				Sent: June 20, 2007 12:17 PM
				To: Deskin, Bob
				Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
				Subject: Subfile Enhancement

				Bob,

				Continuing with your original request
for enhancement requests;

				Add a DESCRIPTION option to the SUBFILE
statement within QUIZ and QTP that could be read by QSHOW.

				Where would you store the information?
If it has a dictionary, within the minidictionary file. If it doesn't,
at the start of the file with a leading integer value that points to the
actual start of data OR do not allow this option.

				regards, 

				Robert W.Mills 
				Systems Development Manager 
				Pinnacle Arvato 
				(020) 8309 3604 

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