DEPLOYMENT QUESTION. AXIANT4GL (THINCLIENT)

Wed Sep 21 09:56:35 CDT 2005

Dear Glenn, Joe,
 I managed to depoly to the PRD server.
When I execute the application from the Axiant Client, I'm getting the
Remote Login dialog box (even though I selected Save/Restore userid and
password' when I compiled and deployed).
 Is there any way to suppress this dialog box?
Also what does the 'Always login on screen execute' option mean? (In Axiant
Workbench - Remote Login dialog box)
 I'll appreciate any help you can provide me in this.
  Regards,
SYED

 On 9/20/05, Joe Boyle <atla38 at dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Syed,
>
> this is all I found,
>
> "you will find help on deployment issues in both the Axiant4GL help and
> Axiant4GL Client help options, both of which can be loaded from the
> 'start/programs/Axiant4GL 3.4' tab."
>
> Regards, Joe.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com at lists.sowder.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Joe Boyle
> Sent: 20 September 2005 13:42
> To: sshahulgm at gmail.com
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: RE: DEPLOYMENT QUESTION. AXIANT4GL (THINCLIENT)
>
> I only ever saw one deployment take place, and this was a (supposedly)
> simple test. I did'nt really follow what was going on as I was quite new
> to
> Axiant at the time – including the general concept of thin-client
> processing.
>
> I don't ever recall seeing any documentation on this topic, but if I find
> anything in my notes I will pass it on.
>
> I recall that the general idea was to create a deployment package, which
> was
> a kind of self-contained reusable client-install zip file. I'm reasonably
> sure that PH has to be installed separately each time and only the client
> end can be customized in this way.
>
> I suspect you are going to have to scan your Axiant docs on this one, and
> get onto support to see what they might have on file, or even try the
> Cognos
> knowledge base site – incidentally, I also found that 'start
> http://www.cognos.com' from a dos window works perfectly.
>
> Regards, Joe.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Syed Shahul Hameed Mustaffa [mailto:sshahulgm at gmail.com]
> Sent: 20 September 2005 11:56
> To: Joe Boyle
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Subject: Re: DEPLOYMENT QUESTION. AXIANT4GL (THINCLIENT)
>
> Thanks Joe.
> I agree with you.
>
> PRD means my production server.
>
> My scenario is, I have a separate machine for Development (DEV) and
> another
> machine for production (PRD). I do not have a development license in the
> PRD. That means I cannot do a remote build in the production machine. Am I
> correct?
>
> Currently I am facing a problem deploying to the production.
> If you have some experience can u please summarize the steps? That will
> help
> me a lot.
>
> I'm trying different ways. Your tips will certainly relieve me of some
> pressure.
>
> Regards,
> SYED.
>
> On 9/20/05, Joe Boyle <atla38 at dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> I would guess that you can deploy to any client/server where the axiant
> client can ping the phserver/SQLserver, or how would software houses
> manage
> to create generic applications; and develop on any network that has the
> same
> environment as the deployment network.
>
> P.S. what is a PRD server ?
> Regards, Joe.
> ________________________________________
> From: Syed Shahul Hameed Mustaffa [mailto: sshahulgm at gmail.com]
> Sent: 20 September 2005 07:37
> To: Glenn Baxter
> Cc: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com ; Joe Boyle
> Subject: Re: DEPLOYMENT QUESTION. AXIANT4GL (THINCLIENT)
>
> Dear Glenn,
>
> I'm just sending this mail to know if you posted something and it got
> lost.
> It happened for me.
>
> Regards,
> SYED
>
> On 9/19/05, Syed Shahul Hameed Mustaffa < sshahulgm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your quite a long response Glenn!
>
> My initial thin client test depolyment went well.
>
> Will you please correct me if I'm wrong in what I've summarized below.
>
> 1. The production server should be in same network as the Axiant 4GL
> development workbench. That means I cannot develop in an isolated network
> and deploy the application to a PRD server in another network. (If I can
> develop in a separate network and deploy the application in another
> network,
> how do I do the deployment?)
>
> 2. Before I deploy to PRD, I have to change the DSN information (I'm using
> ODBC) to point to the production.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Best Regards,
> SYED.
>
>
> On 9/19/05, Glenn Baxter < Glenn at baxterit.com.au> wrote:
> Hello Syed,
> You will need at least 2 Build profiles to deploy your Application, and
> for
> each a Run Profile.
> Deployment {from Deploy; Application} informs you that it will override
> any
> folder options; which can be set folder by folder to different Build
> Profiles.
> Once defined, you will see the form below, which invites you to select
> your
> Build Profile – for Deployment.
>
> Within the Build profile {Right Click Application; Open} the important
> field
> is the Remote Build Location. This location MUST NOT be a UNC path, as the
> documentation indicates. I map a drive on my development Axiant
> workstation
> to the shared remote location as say P for Production and V for
> Development
> etc.
> These locations MUST exist.
> Again on the Build Profile tab, you can set the value for the
> "Connection".
> These WILL be different for each machine, where the HOST name may be a
> machine name or an IP address.
>
> Once you create your Build Profiles, test them from within Axiant i.e.
> just
> build a report or such and verify the operation.
>
> You will also be asked to choose the Run Profile.
> The options here vary with the type of deployment. It is worth pushing
> through and trying different options. The help is Ok also.
>
> We did all migration and testing to a Development server.
> We then built all modules to a Production server {same server, different
> paths}, so had 2 Run and 2 Build profiles.
>
> At deployment, I simply recompiled the Dictionary and build fresh QKGO
> files
> for each user group as all programs had previously been built to the
> Production server.
> With Thin Client, there is no mandatory requirement to build all objects
> again; depending on your prior work of course.
> Always remember that Axiant caters for MANY deployment options, so at
> times
> can be a little daunting; by way of available choices.
>
> My best advice is to keep it simple and "get to know it". I think your
> approach is sensible – do a little first!!
> Sincerely
> Glenn Baxter
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> ________________________________________
> From: Syed Shahul Hameed Mustaffa [mailto: sshahulgm at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 19 September 2005 4:55 PM
> To: powerh-l at lists.sowder.com
> Cc: Joe Boyle
> Subject: DEPLOYMENT QUESTION. AXIANT4GL (THINCLIENT)
>
> Dear Gurus,
> Quick Intro: I'm migrating a PH/MPEIX application to AXIANT4GL/WINDOWS
> (Thin
> Client).
> This question does not mean my project is over.
> I am preparing the production server for testing.
> My plan is as follows:
> First I have a small sample application (which contains only one screen)
> and
> I need to deploy it.
> This is to try deployment in its minimal form.
> Then I need to deploy only a portion of the actual application first to
> the
> production server.
> Then I need to add additional screens, qtps and quizs incrementally.
> Please help me with some brief tips and summary information to go ahead
> with my plan.
> I have gone thru the deployment documentation and have some questions.
> My development and production servers are 2 different machines.
> I already have installed the licenses in the production server too.
> Should I have one set of Build and Run profiles for the development and
> another set for the production before I start to deploy?
> The connection information will differ for both servers (like windows
> userid
> , sql server name, sqlserver id).
> Kindly correct me if I am wrong in any of my points.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Best Regards,
> SYED
>
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