Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?

brian_matthewsbrian matthews brian_matthews_bmw@hotmail.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:22:45 +0000


and to be really trivial - you can observe the quiz.exe processes running 
and observer the 'IO-reads' field increasing as the quiz process progresses, 
this is done from the task manager window ( Ctrl-Alt-Del/TM).

regards Bri,




>From: "brian_matthewsbrian matthews" <brian_matthews_bmw@hotmail.com>
>To: wonicon@optushome.com.au, powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: Re: Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?
>Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:11:23 +0000
>
>in addition to the DOS at command there is also the enhanced XP schtasks 
>command, aswell as the standard scheduler windows interface.
>
>Another great approach to creating .cmd/.bat command fies, to run either 
>interactively via minimised DOS windows or in batch, is to write them in 
>quiz to a disc report file - this enables the user specific parameters to 
>be picked up from a userID-Key parameter table/record. This is much easier 
>than all that let/put quick designer proc stuff.  Very slack example below,
>
>let t_comfile = "c:\comfiles\" + logonid + sysdate + systime + ".cmd"
>
>if not setsystemval ("comfile",t_comfile)
>then error "screen ..id... bad comfile sysval set "
>
>let t_userid = logonid
>let  t_cmdfile_setup = "cmd /c c:\cmd-do-qzn.cmd " + t_userid
>run command = t_cmdfile_setup
>
>c:\cmd-do-qzn.cmd  contains below,
>
>set idkey=%%1                           ; can be up to %%8
>quiz auto=c:\qzfiles\write-a-cmd.qzc
>
>c:\qzfiles\write-a-cmd.qzc contains below,
>
>cancel clear
>set rep dev dis name $comfile
>acc user-parafile
>choose userID systemvalue "idkey"
>final footing &
>"set up env vars..." skip &
>"quiz or atp calls..." skip &
>"command-line-3" skip &
>"command-line-n" skip &
>...
>
>let  t_cmdfile_run = "cmd /c " + t_comfile
>run command = t_cmdfile_run
>
>regards Bri,
>
>>From: Jeff Hoffman <wonicon@optushome.com.au>
>>To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>>Subject: Re: Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?
>>Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:25:29 +1100
>>
>>At 08:38 AM 09-03-05 -0500, Etienne wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >We have a application running on OpenVms with RMS files and some COBOL
>> >programs also. We have a customer that would like to have this 
>>application
>> >running on a Windows server.  We never worked with Powerhouse on Windows 
>>so
>> >we do not know where the difficulties will be...
>> >
>> >Anyone ported a complete system from VMS to Windows?  If yes, where were 
>>the
>> >difficulties...
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>>
>>Hi
>>
>>We converted from VMS/RMS to WINDOWS/MSql Server, we had a lot of batch
>>processing and generated shell scripts within quick screens.
>>
>>The DB was created using the output from qshow then tweeked online.
>>
>>The data was loaded by using qtp to create tab delimit files suitable for
>>using with sql's bcp (was not documented but still exists) from a batch
>>script run from a dos window.
>>
>>One problem was creating fixed length records from dos commands for use in
>>PH, and also to create variable length records created from PH for the
>>script files (this was needed as dos does not have a terminator for ending
>>an environment varaible so when creating a script file from PH by default
>>the env variable includes the trailing spaces). We wrote a C++ program to
>>do these conversions (does not need the .net shit, and worked on all our
>>PC's).
>>
>>Conversion was just a trudge but was faily simple. The problems came on
>>testing where we found VMS allowed non unique updates and syntax could be
>>lax, MS  Sql required unique keys and fully qualified syntax
>>eg under VMS we could output xxx alias yyyy, under Windoz we has to 
>>unclude
>>the access qualifiers on the output statement. BTW the runtime errors 
>>where
>>not very helpfull, so if you get some strange ones, check the full syntax
>>is used on output statements.
>>
>>Printing was a problem, but was solved but printing to a file then 
>>printing
>>the file from dos, this was we could keep out PCL control commands. We
>>created a printer manager (in PH) to handle deferred printing.
>>
>>We created out own batch processing system, but running online was
>>preferrable and simpler to manage and at the time nobody was familiar the
>>the 'at' command and users where not familiar with managing dos batch 
>>queues.
>>
>>Every body has been happy with the result,
>>BUTTTTTTT check how you wish to implement it, 2 basic otptions
>>  - run on individual PC's in which case you have to licence each and 
>>every
>>PC and re verify licencing if you change PC's
>>  - run on a citrix or windows server in which case only the server has to
>>be licenced still need the same number of liceneces but easier to manage.
>>
>>Anyway ours is working.
>>
>>LOL
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