Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?

[Ken Langendock]

Damn....too bad UNIX and NT weren't different enough
to justify a re-write like that. Since those are going
to be the last two standing in the end it would have
been nice to have a few of those problems eliminated.

Oh well. Sooner or later there won't be anyone on the
AS400 anymore to rub it in to the rest of us.

Thanks for calming the lynch mob down again Bob.

 --- "Deskin, Bob" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com> wrote: 
> Just so I don't get lynched, here's the "short"
> history...
> 
> Yes there are differences between the OS/400 version
> of QUICK/QDESIGN
> and the other platforms. Many of these differences
> are because of the
> difference in the user interface. OS/400 has a
> CUA/panel interface.
> Because of these differences and the internal
> architecture, it was felt
> that it would be easier to re-write QUICK than to
> attempt to modify the
> existing version. At least at the time. Who knows
> what would be done
> today.
> 
> In any case, given the opportunity to re-write, they
> also removed some
> of the restrictions, such as the 31 file limit. The
> reason that this is
> such a big deal is that QUICK is based on tables and
> the various limits
> are not only the table size limits but the pointers
> to other tables as
> well.
> 
> Keep in mind that it was a new platform. It was
> considered different
> enough so that they could justify a re-write. And
> they did not have an
> established customer base that would notice even
> subtle differences in
> behavior.
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
> [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf
> Of Ken Langendock
> Sent: March 9, 2005 12:58 PM
> To: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com
> Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone have Moved from VMS to WINDOWS?
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> Wadda ya mean there are features that are not on
> UNIX
> or NT????
> 
> BOB, how can you let this happen?
> 
> More than 31 files???? Now I'm jealous.
> I think we need to address this issue....lol
> 
> Good to here from you Mike.
> Keep me posted when the Next AS400 to UNIX/NT comes
> along....I can use the extra money.  :)
> 
> PS...My rate would definately be higher for that
> conversion....woohoo
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --- Michael Lee <Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com>
> wrote: 
> > Hi Ken,
> > 
> > I wasn't a big fan of AS/400 myself. In fact I
> told
> > our mutual friend
> > Mark Stenzler that I would never work on an
> > AS/400... then someone 
> > offered me some money and I became a tad more
> > flexible.  After working 
> > on it for 3 to 4 years I came to appreciate it's
> > strengths and benefits. 
> > It's a very complete , secure system-albeit very
> > different from any 
> > other operating system.
> > 
> > I would agree that migration to AS/400 would
> > probably be harder than any
> > other machine due to it's panel mode processing
> and
> > the fact that it's 
> > EBCDIC based rather than ASCII based. In fact
> there
> > are some AS/400 
> > specific Powerhouse options just not available to
> > other machine lines:
> > i) It allows more than 31 files per screen.
> > ii) The While Retrieving option allows a date
> range
> > (W/R via date-key 
> > from 20050101  to sysdate)
> > iii) The ASCII function is known as CCONVERT.
> > iv) and of course all the other panel mode
> features
> > 
> > However the AS/400 product is a mature product
> > according to Cognos and
> > no new releases will be done for it. In fact I'm
> > pretty sure that the 
> > current release is still the 6.00 series and I'm
> not
> > even sure if Cognos 
> > is still putting out bug fixes for that product
> line
> > anymore.
> > 
> > I do admit that, like you, I'd put the VAX system
> at
> > the top of my own
> > preferential list though.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > Michael Lee
> > MCL Systems Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ken Langendock wrote:
> > 
> > >LOL, from what I heard there is no such thing as
> an
> > 
> > >AS400 migration....Just dump everything and start
> > >writing it all again from scratch.
> > >
> > >Sorry...Not a big AS400 fan.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Joe Boyle <atla38@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Will there be a version for the AS400 and any
> idea
> > >>of time table ?
> > >>
> > >>Regards, Joe.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com 
> > >>[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On
> Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
> > >>Sent: 09 March 2005 15:38
> > >>To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
> > >>Subject: RE: Anyone have Moved from VMS to
> > WINDOWS?
> > >>
> > >>This is probably a good time to mention our soon
> > to
> > >>be released
> > >>PowerHouse MPE/iX Migration Guide. It should be
> > >>available by the end of
> > >>March from the PowerHouse documentation web page
> > >>
> > >>    
> > >>
> >
>
>(powerhouse.cognos.com/products/powerhouse/download.html)
> > >  
> > >
> > >>and from
> > >>support.cognos.com. It covers migration from
> > MPE/iX
> > >>to UNIX or Windows.
> > >>Unfortunately, it doesn't have Stephen's
> approach
> > to
> > >>handling temporary
> > >>subfiles but it does have lots of other good
> > stuff.
> > >>
> > >>The reason for covering MPE/iX is because of the
> > >>pending end of support
> > >>from HP on the HPe3000-MPE/iX platform. Although
> > not
> > >>specific to OpenVMS
> > >>(to UNIX or Windows), it will highlight many of
> > the
> > >>things that have to
> > >>be considered for that migration as well. If
> > there's
> > >>enough demand, then
> > >>we'll do a version for OpenVMS.
> > >>
> > >>Bob
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com 
> 
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