RE: UDC Commands

From johnsont@wfu.edu Mon Jan 3 19:43:25 2005 From: johnsont@wfu.edu (Ted Johnson) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:43:25 -0500 Subject: UDC Commands Message-ID: <41D9A05D.4020508@wfu.edu> We are running an HP3000 979/400. Our users can access QUIZ through menus, the problem is that we have discovered that once inside QUIZ they can enter other user commands, such as QUERY, which we do not want them to do. How can we turn off this "feature"? Thank you, Ted Johnson WFU - DBA -- **************************************************** Ted Johnson johnsont@wfu.edu Information Systems Wake Forest University 336-758-4374 Winston-Salem, NC 27109 336-758-7127 FAX "Good judgment comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgment". -- Richard Karn From Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com Mon Jan 3 19:52:55 2005 From: Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com (Johnson, Tracy) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:52:55 -0500 Subject: UDC Commands Message-ID: <970F565A5733E64686BC3A10FBBAE87C49FBCB@msi03-mail.noam.msiusa.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F1CD.D156FC51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ACD's (via ALTSEC) -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com on behalf of Ted Johnson Sent: Mon 1/3/2005 2:43 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Cc:=09 Subject: UDC Commands We are running an HP3000 979/400. Our users can access QUIZ through = menus, the=20 problem is that we have discovered that once inside QUIZ they can enter = other=20 user commands, such as QUERY, which we do not want them to do. How can = we turn=20 off this "feature"? Thank you, Ted Johnson WFU - DBA --=20 **************************************************** Ted Johnson johnsont@wfu.edu Information Systems=09 Wake Forest University 336-758-4374 Winston-Salem, NC 27109 336-758-7127 FAX "Good judgment comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgment". -- Richard Karn =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to = powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to = powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F1CD.D156FC51 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: UDC Commands

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F1CD.D156FC51-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Mon Jan 3 19:54:22 2005 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:54:22 -0500 Subject: UDC Commands Message-ID: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC02592673@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> Try the program parameter NOOSACCESS when you run QUIZ. Bob Deskin Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Ted Johnson Sent: January 3, 2005 2:43 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: UDC Commands We are running an HP3000 979/400. Our users can access QUIZ through menus, the problem is that we have discovered that once inside QUIZ they can enter other user commands, such as QUERY, which we do not want them to do. How can we turn off this "feature"? Thank you, Ted Johnson WFU - DBA -- **************************************************** Ted Johnson johnsont@wfu.edu Information Systems Wake Forest University 336-758-4374 Winston-Salem, NC 27109 336-758-7127 FAX "Good judgment comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgment". -- Richard Karn = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 3 20:40:19 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:40:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: PH gig in the UK Message-ID: <20050103204019.67690.qmail@web81302.mail.yahoo.com> G'day folks I was sent this link about a PowerHouse job opening in the UK if you are interested. http://www.jobserve.com/ED390911A7ED49667.job Blue From MJohns8344@aol.com Tue Jan 4 18:57:34 2005 From: MJohns8344@aol.com (MJohns8344@aol.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:57:34 -0500 Subject: need to change email address Message-ID: <7A9E5F51.0984C567.0B5371AA@aol.com> please change from mjohns8344@aol.com to mkjohns60@bellsouth.net -- Margaret Johns 770-965-3896 From daveb@thyme-it.ie Wed Jan 5 13:59:26 2005 From: daveb@thyme-it.ie (Dave Browne) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:59:26 -0000 Subject: Powehouse 8.30D3 v. 840D Message-ID: <20050105135630.SM01972@ASDCOMPUTER> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4F32E.C4B2BDB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 We=92re working in the following environment: Alpha, VMS 7.3-1, = Powerhouse 8.30D3, Oracle 8.1.7 with a few indexed files. =20 Some time ago, we encountered a problem when updating an indexed file in = a quick screen and another user accesses the same indexed file within QTP. This caused a lock on the file although we use the LOCK, GET, PUT, = UNLOCK strategy (this didn=92t happen with VMS 7.3). =20 We=92ve tried, unsuccessfully, to correct this with various code = changes. We then installed 8.40D (in the test environment) and the problem went away = =96 happy days!! =20 Question is, before we install in the live environment, is anybody aware = of any side effects moving from 8.30D3 to 8.40D? =20 Regards, =20 Dave =20 Dave Browne Aerospace Software Developments Limited =20 =20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 26/11/2004 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4F32E.C4B2BDB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

We’re working in the following environment: = Alpha, VMS 7.3-1, Powerhouse 8.30D3, Oracle 8.1.7 with a few indexed = files.

Some time ago, we encountered a problem when updating = an indexed file in a quick screen and another user accesses the same = indexed file within QTP. This caused a lock on the file although we use the = LOCK, GET, PUT, UNLOCK strategy (this didn’t happen with VMS = 7.3).

We’ve tried, unsuccessfully, to correct this = with various code changes. We then installed 8.40D (in the test = environment) and the problem went away – happy = days!!

Question is, before we install in the live = environment, is anybody aware of any side effects moving from 8.30D3 to = 8.40D?

Regards,

Dave

Dave Browne

Aerospace Software Developments = Limited

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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4F32E.C4B2BDB0-- From subashini@fastmail.fm Wed Jan 5 16:31:42 2005 From: subashini@fastmail.fm (Subashini Srinivasagopalan) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:31:42 -0800 Subject: is it mandatory to compile and build the object file and run the pgm in the same location for quick screens? Message-ID: <1104942702.28716.212061068@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all we are running power house in Unix environment. While compiling and executing a quick screen , is it mandatory to compile and build the object file in the same location? Although the screen seems to run without any errors, some functionalities dont seem to work if the object file is placed in a different location other than where it had been compiled. (The designer procedures coded for the F1, F2 , F3 keys ) Will having the obj in some other location and executing the file from that location create problems? For ex. i have my source code in /aa/qksrc/source.qks , and i compile the code from there and specify the path /aa/qkobj/ for the object file to be created. After compiling the source code in the path the /aa/qksrc/ , the object file is created in the location /aa/qkobj/ in the name source.qkc. There is also another temporary object file created in the location /aa/qksrc/. The problem is when i execute the one created in /aa/qksrc/ by a simple "GO" statement after compilation, the F1, F2 , F3 etc keys seem to function properly , the way it had been coded and labels appear in the buttons that are created for those keys. But if i run the screen from the location /aa/qkobj the functionalities coded for F1 , F2 , F3 keys dont seem to work. can i know y this happens? Thanks Subashini -- Subashini Srinivasagopalan subashini@fastmail.fm From pfbcs@hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 16:36:55 2005 From: pfbcs@hotmail.com (Peter Bateman) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:36:55 -0400 Subject: UDC Commands In-Reply-To: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC02592673@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> Message-ID: In addition to using NOOSACCESS I would also set the NOBREAK option on the UDC header and I would run powerhouse with the NOBREAKSET run time parameter. If you are not going to allow break why pay for the processing associated with having break enabled? Regards, Peter Bateman >[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Ted Johnson >Sent: January 3, 2005 2:43 PM >To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subject: UDC Commands > > >We are running an HP3000 979/400. Our users can access QUIZ through >menus, the >problem is that we have discovered that once inside QUIZ they can enter >other >user commands, such as QUERY, which we do not want them to do. How can >we turn >off this "feature"? > >Thank you, > >Ted Johnson >WFU - DBA >-- _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN� Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. From guy.werry@hbms.ca Wed Jan 5 16:49:58 2005 From: guy.werry@hbms.ca (Guy Werry) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:49:58 -0600 Subject: is it mandatory to compile and build the object file and run the pgm in the same location for quick screens? Message-ID: Subashini, All of our object code is compiled to a different directory and it causes no problems. (HP-Ux 10.2, Ph7.33.D3). We don't normally code designer procedures for the function keys: we set up a QKGO file with the action/data field definitions that correspond to the function key definitions, as well as the "root" menu. This means that when executing you have to have something like: export QKGO=../pub/sampleqkgo.qkg quick Note that in the "sampleqkgo.qkg" file I have defined which screen I'm going to run. (That's usually a menu screen that calls other screens). It sounds like you're doing something different. I'd be willing to bet that it's an environment issue: your object file needs something, like the QKGO, that is NOT being specified. Thanks, Guy L. Werry Senior Systems Analyst Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. -----Original Message----- From: Subashini Srinivasagopalan [mailto:subashini@fastmail.fm] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:32 AM To: Power house Discussion Subject: is it mandatory to compile and build the object file and run the pgm in the same location for quick screens? Hi all we are running power house in Unix environment. While compiling and executing a quick screen , is it mandatory to compile and build the object file in the same location? Although the screen seems to run without any errors, some functionalities dont seem to work if the object file is placed in a different location other than where it had been compiled. (The designer procedures coded for the F1, F2 , F3 keys ) Will having the obj in some other location and executing the file from that location create problems? For ex. i have my source code in /aa/qksrc/source.qks , and i compile the code from there and specify the path /aa/qkobj/ for the object file to be created. After compiling the source code in the path the /aa/qksrc/ , the object file is created in the location /aa/qkobj/ in the name source.qkc. There is also another temporary object file created in the location /aa/qksrc/. The problem is when i execute the one created in /aa/qksrc/ by a simple "GO" statement after compilation, the F1, F2 , F3 etc keys seem to function properly , the way it had been coded and labels appear in the buttons that are created for those keys. But if i run the screen from the location /aa/qkobj the functionalities coded for F1 , F2 , F3 keys dont seem to work. can i know y this happens? Thanks Subashini -- Subashini Srinivasagopalan subashini@fastmail.fm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk Wed Jan 5 18:05:48 2005 From: robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk (Robert Mills) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:05:48 -0000 Subject: Character replace in Quiz Message-ID: <08F03A7FCBC8AD4AAB87773F25282729A2A2DB@whgexh01.whgl.co.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F351.2F7AD552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings to the -L, Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons = which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient = way of doing this? regards, =20 Robert W.Mills Systems Development Manager Windsong Services (020) 8309 3604 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F351.2F7AD552 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Character replace in Quiz

Greetings to the -L,

Environment: Quiz 8.39.C = running on MPE/iX 6.5

I have a char*30 source field = that may contain any number of semi-colons which I need to replace with = spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of doing this?

regards,

Robert W.Mills
Systems Development = Manager
Windsong Services
(020) = 8309 3604

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F351.2F7AD552-- From KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com Wed Jan 5 18:46:03 2005 From: KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com (Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC)) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:46:03 -0500 Subject: Character replace in Quiz Message-ID: <6FD41A56774F624AB3C25A0C8CBF3BDC018A577C@uwmdfwcsc1.srv.unisourcelink.net> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F356.CE82B0E8 Content-Type: text/plain Robert Use MPE system functions to do it for you... In your quiz... define D-REPLACE char*50 = '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]' define D-NAME char*30 = getsystemval("D_REPL") if setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE) Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result. Regards Dave Knox -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: Character replace in Quiz Greetings to the -L, Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of doing this? regards, Robert W.Mills Systems Development Manager Windsong Services (020) 8309 3604 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F356.CE82B0E8 Content-Type: text/html Message

Robert

Use MPE system functions to do it for you...

In your quiz...

define D-REPLACE char*50 = '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]'
define D-NAME char*30 = getsystemval("D_REPL") if setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE)

Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result.

Regards

Dave Knox

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM
To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail)
Subject: Character replace in Quiz

Greetings to the -L,

Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5

I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of doing this?

regards,

Robert W.Mills
Systems Development Manager
Windsong Services
(020) 8309 3604

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F356.CE82B0E8-- From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 5 19:57:58 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:57:58 -0000 Subject: Character replace in Quiz In-Reply-To: <6FD41A56774F624AB3C25A0C8CBF3BDC018A577C@uwmdfwcsc1.srv.unisourcelink.net> Message-ID: <20050105195804.E923EE000125@galaxy.systems.pipex.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C4F360.DBEEB240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just out of interest, does anyone know how the decision to kill off mpe was arrived at ? I reckon MS should buy it up and replace DOS with it :-) Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. _____ From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) Sent: 05 January 2005 18:46 To: 'Robert Mills'; PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz Robert Use MPE system functions to do it for you... In your quiz... define D-REPLACE char*50 = '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]' define D-NAME char*30 = getsystemval("D_REPL") if setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE) Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result. Regards Dave Knox -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: Character replace in Quiz Greetings to the -L, Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of doing this? regards, Robert W.Mills Systems Development Manager Windsong Services (020) 8309 3604 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C4F360.DBEEB240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Just out of interest, does anyone = know how the decision to kill off mpe was arrived at ? I reckon MS should buy it = up and replace DOS with it J

Regards, Joe.

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From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] = On Behalf Of Knox, Dave (Dallas, = CSC)
Sent: 05 January 2005 = 18:46
To: 'Robert Mills'; = PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Character = replace in Quiz

Robert

Use MPE system functions to do it = for you...

In your = quiz...

define = D-REPLACE char*50 =3D '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]'
define D-NAME char*30 =3D getsystemval("D_REPL") if setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE)

Where NAME is your source field and = D-NAME is the result.

Regards

Dave = Knox

-----Original = Message-----
From: = powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills
Sent: Wednesday, January = 05, 2005 12:06 PM
To: PowerHouse Mail List = (E-mail)
Subject: Character = replace in Quiz

Greetings to the = -L,

Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX = 6.5

I have a char*30 source field that may contain any = number of semi-colons which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of doing this?

regards,

Robert W.Mills
Systems Development Manager
Windsong Services
(020) 8309 3604 =

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C4F360.DBEEB240-- From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 5 20:36:45 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:36:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Character replace in Quiz In-Reply-To: <08F03A7FCBC8AD4AAB87773F25282729A2A2DB@whgexh01.whgl.co.uk> Message-ID: <20050105203645.53841.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com> It's been awhile but inst there a REPLACE() or SUBSTITUTE() function that can be used for this? Blue --- Robert Mills wrote: > Greetings to the -L, > > Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 > > I have a char*30 source field that may contain any > number of semi-colons which I need to replace with > spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of > doing this? > > regards, > > Robert W.Mills > Systems Development Manager > Windsong Services > (020) 8309 3604 > > From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 5 21:36:42 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:36:42 -0000 Subject: Character replace in Quiz In-Reply-To: <20050105203645.53841.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050105213648.9F4CEE0000EF@galaxy.systems.pipex.net> with the substitute function, not only do you have to set up a dictionary with the substitution char required ( assuming it is'nt the default of ^), you also have to know how many replacement chars to expect in the target string - which presumably varies with each input record; the latter means the define has to have multiple if conditions, and therefore a presearch to count the number of substitution chars ... etc... Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Edis Sent: 05 January 2005 20:37 To: PowerHouse List Subject: Re: Character replace in Quiz It's been awhile but inst there a REPLACE() or SUBSTITUTE() function that can be used for this? Blue --- Robert Mills wrote: > Greetings to the -L, > > Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 > > I have a char*30 source field that may contain any > number of semi-colons which I need to replace with > spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of > doing this? > > regards, > > Robert W.Mills > Systems Development Manager > Windsong Services > (020) 8309 3604 > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Thu Jan 6 09:48:16 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:48:16 -0000 Subject: Character replace in Quiz In-Reply-To: <20050105213648.9F4CEE0000EF@galaxy.systems.pipex.net> Message-ID: <20050106094821.46089E00025D@galaxy.systems.pipex.net> and if you have oracle ( unlikely with mpe platforms ) you can use the replace function. But over than that, and as always, mpe tends to do it best :-) Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: 05 January 2005 21:37 To: 'Robert Edis'; 'PowerHouse List' Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz with the substitute function, not only do you have to set up a dictionary with the substitution char required ( assuming it is'nt the default of ^), you also have to know how many replacement chars to expect in the target string - which presumably varies with each input record; the latter means the define has to have multiple if conditions, and therefore a presearch to count the number of substitution chars ... etc... Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Edis Sent: 05 January 2005 20:37 To: PowerHouse List Subject: Re: Character replace in Quiz It's been awhile but inst there a REPLACE() or SUBSTITUTE() function that can be used for this? Blue --- Robert Mills wrote: > Greetings to the -L, > > Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 > > I have a char*30 source field that may contain any > number of semi-colons which I need to replace with > spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of > doing this? > > regards, > > Robert W.Mills > Systems Development Manager > Windsong Services > (020) 8309 3604 > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Thu Jan 6 10:28:06 2005 From: chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk (Chris Sharman) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:28:06 +0000 Subject: [MAYBE SPAM] RE: Character replace in Quiz In-Reply-To: <200501060954406623232@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> References: <200501060954406623232@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> Message-ID: <41DD12B6.1060007@ccagroup.co.uk> > wrote: >>Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 >> >>I have a char*30 source field that may contain any >>number of semi-colons which I need to replace with >>spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of >>doing this? There's always PACK: "removes leading & trailing commas & semicolons, and removes leading spaces from words that begin with comma, period, colon, or semicolon". Whether that's any use to you depends on what else is in the data, and what you need to do with it. def nosemisorcommas char*30 = & pack(data[1:2])+pack(data[3:2])+pack(data[5:2])+& ... Unfortunately that turns ";ABC;DEF" into "A BCD EF", so more thought needed. There's also the simple approach of index and substrings, which is pretty tedious, but possible if you think you can get away with assuming less than 5 or 6 semicolons or so. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk Thu Jan 6 10:45:28 2005 From: robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk (Robert Mills) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:45:28 -0000 Subject: Character replace in Quiz Message-ID: <08F03A7FCBC8AD4AAB87773F25282729A2392A@whgexh01.whgl.co.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F3DC.D5F4C13C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, =20 Cool (as my son would say). Had never thought of this method. Can think = of several other uses for this. =20 regards,=20 =20 Robert W.Mills=20 Systems Development Manager=20 Windsong Services=20 (020) 8309 3604=20 -----Original Message----- From: Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) [mailto:KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com] Sent: 05 January 2005 18:46 To: Robert Mills; PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz Robert =20 Use MPE system functions to do it for you... =20 In your quiz... =20 define D-REPLACE char*50 =3D '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]' define D-NAME char*30 =3D getsystemval("D_REPL") if = setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE) Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result. =20 Regards Dave Knox =20 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: Character replace in Quiz Greetings to the -L,=20 Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5=20 I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons = which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient = way of doing this? regards,=20 =20 Robert W.Mills=20 Systems Development Manager=20 Windsong Services=20 (020) 8309 3604=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F3DC.D5F4C13C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Dave,

Cool (as my son would say). Had never thought = of this=20 method. Can think of several other uses for this.

regards,

Robert=20 W.Mills
Systems = Development=20 Manager
Windsong = Services=20
(020) 8309 3604

-----Original Message-----
From: Knox, Dave = (Dallas, CSC)=20 [mailto:KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com]
Sent: 05 January 2005=20 18:46
To: Robert Mills; PowerHouse Mail List=20 (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Character replace in = Quiz

Robert

Use=20 MPE system functions to do it for you...

In=20 your quiz...

define D-REPLACE = char*50 =3D '![repl("' + NAME + '",";","=20 ")]'
define D-NAME=20 char*30 =3D getsystemval("D_REPL") if=20 setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE)

Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME = is the=20 result.

Regards

Dave=20 Knox

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]=20 On Behalf Of Robert Mills
Sent: Wednesday, January = 05, 2005=20 12:06 PM
To: PowerHouse Mail List = (E-mail)
Subject:=20 Character replace in Quiz

Greetings to the -L, =

Environment: Quiz 8.39.C = running on=20 MPE/iX 6.5

I have a char*30 source = field that may=20 contain any number of semi-colons which I need to replace with = spaces. Any=20 advice on the most efficient way of doing this?

regards,

Robert=20 W.Mills
Systems = Development=20 Manager
Windsong=20 Services
(020) 8309 = 3604=20

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F3DC.D5F4C13C-- From paul_diaconescu@hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 14:57:17 2005 From: paul_diaconescu@hotmail.com (PAUL DIACONESCU) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:57:17 -0500 Subject: Character replace in Quiz In-Reply-To: <6FD41A56774F624AB3C25A0C8CBF3BDC018A577C@uwmdfwcsc1.srv.unisourcelink.net> Message-ID: You can also sen your report on a disc file (set report device disc), and before printing your file, use qedit in order to replace all ';' by ' '. regards, paul diaconescu >From: "Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC)" >To: "'Robert Mills'" , "PowerHouse >Mail List (E-mail)" >Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:46:03 -0500 > >Robert > >Use MPE system functions to do it for you... > >In your quiz... > >define D-REPLACE char*50 = '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]' >define D-NAME char*30 = getsystemval("D_REPL") if >setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE) > >Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result. > >Regards >Dave Knox > > >-----Original Message----- >From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM >To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) >Subject: Character replace in Quiz > > > >Greetings to the -L, > >Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 > >I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons >which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way >of >doing this? > >regards, > >Robert W.Mills >Systems Development Manager >Windsong Services >(020) 8309 3604 > From Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com Thu Jan 6 15:43:49 2005 From: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com (Michael Lee) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:43:49 -0800 Subject: Character replace in Quiz In-Reply-To: <08F03A7FCBC8AD4AAB87773F25282729A2392A@whgexh01.whgl.co.uk> References: <08F03A7FCBC8AD4AAB87773F25282729A2392A@whgexh01.whgl.co.uk> Message-ID: <41DD5CB5.9070201@mclsystemsinc.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030105060509060301000800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Robert, Or one could use Powerhouse and the INDEX function as follows: DEFINE t_IDX1 = INDEX(field_in_question,";") DEFINE t_NEW1 char*40 = field_in_question[1:t_idx1 -1] + field_in_question[t_idx1 + 1] & if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question DEFINE t_IDX2 = INDEX(t_NEW1,";") DEFINE t_NEW2 char*40 = t_NEW1[1:t_idx2 -1] + t_NEW1[t_idx2 +1] & if t_IDX2 <> 0 else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question DEFINE t_IDX3 = INDEX(t_NEW2,";") DEFINE t_NEW3 char*40 = t_NEW2[1:t_idx3 -1] + t_NEW2[t_idx3 +1] & if t_IDX3 <> 0 else t_NEW2 if t_IDX2 <> 0 & else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question etc. I don't know how efficient this method is but it's tried and true. Regards, Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. Robert Mills wrote: > Dave, > > Cool (as my son would say). Had never thought of this method. Can > think of several other uses for this. > > regards, > > Robert W.Mills > Systems Development Manager > Windsong Services > (020) 8309 3604 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) [mailto:KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com] > Sent: 05 January 2005 18:46 > To: Robert Mills; PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz > > Robert > > Use MPE system functions to do it for you... > > In your quiz... > > define D-REPLACE char*50 = '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]' > define D-NAME char*30 = getsystemval("D_REPL") if > setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE) > Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result. > > Regards > Dave Knox > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM > To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) > Subject: Character replace in Quiz > > Greetings to the -L, > > Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 > > I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of > semi-colons which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on > the most efficient way of doing this? > > regards, > > Robert W.Mills > Systems Development Manager > Windsong Services > (020) 8309 3604 > --------------030105060509060301000800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Robert,

Or one could use Powerhouse and the INDEX function as follows:

DEFINE t_IDX1 = INDEX(field_in_question,";")
DEFINE t_NEW1 char*40 = field_in_question[1:t_idx1 -1] + field_in_question[t_idx1 + 1] &
              if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question
DEFINE t_IDX2 = INDEX(t_NEW1,";")
DEFINE t_NEW2 char*40 = t_NEW1[1:t_idx2 -1] + t_NEW1[t_idx2 +1] &
               if t_IDX2 <> 0 else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question
DEFINE t_IDX3 = INDEX(t_NEW2,";")
DEFINE t_NEW3 char*40 = t_NEW2[1:t_idx3 -1] + t_NEW2[t_idx3 +1] &
               if t_IDX3 <> 0 else t_NEW2 if t_IDX2 <> 0 &
               else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question
etc.

I don't know how efficient this method is but it's tried and true.

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

Robert Mills wrote:

Message
Dave,

Cool (as my son would say). Had never thought of this method. Can think of several other uses for this.

regards,

Robert W.Mills
Systems Development Manager
Windsong Services
(020) 8309 3604

-----Original Message-----
From: Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) [mailto:KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com]
Sent: 05 January 2005 18:46
To: Robert Mills; PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz

Robert

Use MPE system functions to do it for you...

In your quiz...

define D-REPLACE char*50 = '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]'
define D-NAME char*30 = getsystemval("D_REPL") if setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE)

Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result.

Regards

Dave Knox

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM
To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail)
Subject: Character replace in Quiz

Greetings to the -L,

Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5

I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of doing this?

regards,

Robert W.Mills
Systems Development Manager
Windsong Services
(020) 8309 3604

--------------030105060509060301000800-- From robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk Thu Jan 6 15:34:39 2005 From: robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk (Robert Mills) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:34:39 -0000 Subject: Character replace in Quiz Message-ID: <08F03A7FCBC8AD4AAB87773F25282729A2392B@whgexh01.whgl.co.uk> Paul, If it was as simple as that I would use 'tr' (posix translate filter command). The PC application that processes this file expects to see a semi-colon between each field in the record. The char*30 field in question is the only one a user could enter semi-colons into. As it's the 3rd field out of 50 then each additional semi-colon would push the remaining data 1 field position further away from where it should be. Think I'll stay with Dave's suggestion. regards, Robert W.Mills Systems Development Manager Windsong Services (020) 8309 3604 powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com wrote: > You can also sen your report on a disc file (set report device disc), > and before printing your file, use qedit in order to replace all ';' > by ' '. > > regards, > paul diaconescu > > >> From: "Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC)" >> To: "'Robert Mills'" , >> "PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail)" >> Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz >> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:46:03 -0500 >> >> Robert >> >> Use MPE system functions to do it for you... >> >> In your quiz... >> >> define D-REPLACE char*50 = '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]' >> define D-NAME char*30 = getsystemval("D_REPL") if >> setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE) >> >> Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result. >> >> Regards >> Dave Knox >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >> [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills >> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM >> To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) >> Subject: Character replace in Quiz >> >> >> >> Greetings to the -L, >> >> Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5 >> >> I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of >> semi-colons which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the >> most efficient way of doing this? >> >> regards, >> >> Robert W.Mills >> Systems Development Manager >> Windsong Services >> (020) 8309 3604 >> > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. From robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk Thu Jan 6 15:57:35 2005 From: robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk (Robert Mills) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:57:35 -0000 Subject: Character replace in Quiz Message-ID: <08F03A7FCBC8AD4AAB87773F25282729A2A2DF@whgexh01.whgl.co.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F408.70627A3B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Michael, =20 Had thought of that method but decided that it was VERY inefficient. It = could also be dangerous if I did not cater for enough semi-colons (see = my previous post). To be on the safe side I'd need to allow for the = field to be full of semi-colons. Therefore, 60 defines would be needed = for the field in question (only a char*30). As the program is extracting = approx 350,000 records each time that works out to 21,000,000 define = evaluations per run. As I said 'VERY inefficient'. Still think I'll stay = with Dave's solution. =20 regards,=20 =20 Robert W.Mills=20 Systems Development Manager=20 Windsong Services=20 (020) 8309 3604=20 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Lee [mailto:Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com] Sent: 06 January 2005 15:44 To: Robert Mills Cc: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: Re: Character replace in Quiz Hi Robert, Or one could use Powerhouse and the INDEX function as follows: DEFINE t_IDX1 =3D INDEX(field_in_question,";") DEFINE t_NEW1 char*40 =3D field_in_question[1:t_idx1 -1] + = field_in_question[t_idx1 + 1] & if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question DEFINE t_IDX2 =3D INDEX(t_NEW1,";") DEFINE t_NEW2 char*40 =3D t_NEW1[1:t_idx2 -1] + t_NEW1[t_idx2 +1] &=20 if t_IDX2 <> 0 else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else = field_in_question DEFINE t_IDX3 =3D INDEX(t_NEW2,";") DEFINE t_NEW3 char*40 =3D t_NEW2[1:t_idx3 -1] + t_NEW2[t_idx3 +1] &=20 if t_IDX3 <> 0 else t_NEW2 if t_IDX2 <> 0 & else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question etc. I don't know how efficient this method is but it's tried and true. Regards, Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. Robert Mills wrote: Dave, =20 Cool (as my son would say). Had never thought of this method. Can think = of several other uses for this. =20 regards,=20 =20 Robert W.Mills=20 Systems Development Manager=20 Windsong Services=20 (020) 8309 3604=20 -----Original Message----- From: Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) [ mailto:KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com] Sent: 05 January 2005 18:46 To: Robert Mills; PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Character replace in Quiz Robert =20 Use MPE system functions to do it for you... =20 In your quiz... =20 define D-REPLACE char*50 =3D '![repl("' + NAME + '",";"," ")]' define D-NAME char*30 =3D getsystemval("D_REPL") if = setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE) Where NAME is your source field and D-NAME is the result. =20 Regards Dave Knox =20 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [ = mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mills Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:06 PM To: PowerHouse Mail List (E-mail) Subject: Character replace in Quiz Greetings to the -L,=20 Environment: Quiz 8.39.C running on MPE/iX 6.5=20 I have a char*30 source field that may contain any number of semi-colons = which I need to replace with spaces. Any advice on the most efficient = way of doing this? regards,=20 =20 Robert W.Mills=20 Systems Development Manager=20 Windsong Services=20 (020) 8309 3604=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F408.70627A3B Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Michael,

Had thought of that method but decided that it was VERY = inefficient. It=20 could also be dangerous if I did not cater for enough semi-colons (see = my=20 previous post). To be on the safe side I'd need to allow for the field = to be=20 full of semi-colons. Therefore, 60=20 defines would be needed for the field in question (only a char*30). = As the=20 program is extracting approx 350,000 records each time that works out to = 21,000,000 define evaluations per run. As I said 'VERY inefficient'. = Still think=20 I'll stay with Dave's solution.

regards,

Robert=20 W.Mills
Systems = Development=20 Manager
Windsong = Services=20
(020) 8309 3604

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lee=20 [mailto:Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com]
Sent: 06 January 2005 = 15:44
To: Robert Mills
Cc: PowerHouse Mail List=20 (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Character replace in=20 Quiz

Hi Robert,

Or one could use Powerhouse = and the=20 INDEX function as follows:

DEFINE t_IDX1 =3D=20 INDEX(field_in_question,";")
DEFINE t_NEW1 char*40 =3D=20 field_in_question[1:t_idx1 -1] + field_in_question[t_idx1 + 1]=20 = &
          &nbs= p;  =20 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else field_in_question
DEFINE t_IDX2 =3D=20 INDEX(t_NEW1,";")
DEFINE t_NEW2 char*40 =3D t_NEW1[1:t_idx2 -1] +=20 t_NEW1[t_idx2 +1] &=20 =
           &nb= sp;  =20 if t_IDX2 <> 0 else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else=20 field_in_question
DEFINE t_IDX3 =3D INDEX(t_NEW2,";")
DEFINE = t_NEW3=20 char*40 =3D t_NEW2[1:t_idx3 -1] + t_NEW2[t_idx3 +1] &=20 =
           &nb= sp;  =20 if t_IDX3 <> 0 else t_NEW2 if t_IDX2 <> 0=20 &
            =   =20 else t_NEW1 if t_IDX1 <> 0 else = field_in_question
etc.

I=20 don't know how efficient this method is but it's tried and=20 true.

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems=20 Inc.

Robert Mills wrote:

Dave,

Cool (as my son would say). Had never = thought of=20 this method. Can think of several other uses for = this.

regards,

Robert=20 W.Mills
Systems = Development=20 Manager
Windsong=20 Services
(020) 8309 = 3604

-----Original Message-----
From: Knox, Dave = (Dallas, CSC)=20 [mailto:KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.= com]
Sent:=20 05 January 2005 18:46
To: Robert Mills; PowerHouse Mail = List=20 (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Character replace in=20 Quiz

Robert

Use MPE system functions to do it for = you...

In your quiz...

define D-REPLACE = char*50=20 =3D '![repl("' + NAME + '",";","=20 ")]'
define D-NAME=20 char*30 =3D getsystemval("D_REPL") if=20 setsystemval("D_REPL",D-REPLACE)

Where NAME is your source field and = D-NAME is the=20 result.

Regards

Dave Knox

-----Original = Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowd= er.com=20 [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lis= ts.sowder.com]=20 On Behalf Of Robert Mills
Sent: Wednesday, = January 05,=20 2005 12:06 PM
To: PowerHouse Mail List=20 (E-mail)
Subject: Character replace in=20 Quiz

Greetings to the = -L,

Environment: Quiz = 8.39.C running on=20 MPE/iX 6.5

I have a char*30 source = field that=20 may contain any number of semi-colons which I need to replace = with=20 spaces. Any advice on the most efficient way of doing = this?

regards, =

Robert=20 W.Mills
Systems = Development=20 Manager
Windsong=20 Services
(020) 8309 = 3604=20 =

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F408.70627A3B-- From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Sun Jan 9 09:05:35 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:05:35 -0000 Subject: FW: Protected message Message-ID: <20050109090557.22DD1E0000A4@ranger.systems.pipex.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C4F62A.68108930 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01C4F62A.68182A50" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C4F62A.68182A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd send it on to you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me off-list so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob. Regards, Joe. _____ From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' Subject: FW: Protected message Hi Bob, Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along with all the others from the list ? original details below. ****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* ********************************************************************* McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail sent by Bob.Deskin" . The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity to Bob.Deskin" . The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. _____ From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 To: Atla Subject: Protected message ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C4F62A.68182A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all, =

this may be a problem waiting to = happen so I thought I’d send it on to you all as a warning. I can’t = see why Bob would contact me off-list so you might be advised to be wary if you = have anything from Bob.

Regards, Joe.

From: Joe = Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 08:30
To: = 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com'
Subject: FW: Protected = message

Hi = Bob,

Just thought I’d let you know = about this message, along with all the others from the list ? = original details below.

*****************= * McAfee VirusScan ************************

******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 = *********

*****************= ****************************************************

McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail =

sent by Bob.Deskin" = <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. =

We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity =

to Bob.Deskin" = <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es).

This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean = process.

Regards, Joe.

From: = Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 03:41
To: Atla
Subject: Protected = message

------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C4F62A.68182A50-- ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C4F62A.68108930 Content-Type: text/plain; name="McAfee_EmailScanReport.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="McAfee_EmailScanReport.txt" ****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* ********************************************************************* McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail=20 sent by Bob.Deskin" . The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.=20 We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity=20 to Bob.Deskin" . The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM = Virus(es).=20 This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C4F62A.68108930-- From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Sun Jan 9 09:12:21 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:12:21 -0000 Subject: ****** READ ME FIRST PH LIST VIRUS ? ******* Message-ID: <20050109091233.1F2C7E000120@ranger.systems.pipex.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4F62B.535D3320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It occurred to me that there is little point in this warning unless it is read first :-) _____ From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 09 January 2005 09:06 To: 'PowerHouse List' Subject: FW: Protected message Hi all, this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd send it on to you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me off-list so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob. Regards, Joe. _____ From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' Subject: FW: Protected message Hi Bob, Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along with all the others from the list ? original details below. ****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* ********************************************************************* McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail sent by Bob.Deskin" . The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity to Bob.Deskin" . The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. _____ From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 To: Atla Subject: Protected message ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4F62B.535D3320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It occurred to me that there is = little point in this warning unless it is read first J

From: Joe = Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 09:06
To: 'PowerHouse List'
Subject: FW: Protected = message

Hi all, =

Regards, Joe.

From: Joe = Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 08:30
To: = 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com'
Subject: FW: Protected = message

Hi = Bob,

Just thought I’d let you know = about this message, along with all the others from the list ? = original details below.

*****************= * McAfee VirusScan ************************

******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 = *********

*****************= ****************************************************

McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail =

sent by Bob.Deskin" = <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. =

We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity =

to Bob.Deskin" = <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es).

This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean = process.

Regards, Joe.

From: = Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 03:41
To: Atla
Subject: Protected = message

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4F62B.535D3320-- From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Sun Jan 9 11:11:56 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:11:56 -0000 Subject: Recall: Protected message Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4F63C.08E5B900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Boyle would like to recall the message, "Protected message". ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4F63C.08E5B900 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IjoLAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAEwAAAElQTS5PdXRs b29rLlJlY2FsbACCBgEDkAYA8AMAABgAAAADACYAAQAAAAIBMQABAAAAbwEAAFBDREZFQjA5AAEA AgD0AAAAAAAAADihuxAF5RAaobsIACsqVsIAAG1zcHN0LmRsbAAAAAAATklUQfm/uAEAqgA32W4A AAAAQwA6AFwARABvAGMAdQBtAGUAbgB0AHMAIABhAG4AZAAgAFMAZQB0AHQAaQBuAGcAcwBcAEIA TwBZAEwARQBKAFwATABvAGMAYQBsACAAUwBlAHQAdABpAG4AZwBzAFwAQQBwAHAAbABpAGMAYQB0 AGkAbwBuACAARABhAHQAYQBcAE0AaQBjAHIAbwBzAG8AZgB0AFwATwB1AHQAbABvAG8AawBcAE8A dQB0AGwAbwBvAGsALgBwAHMAdAAAABgAAAAAAAAA4wGHi5JL6UGBZc07q4Fen8KAAAAYAAAAAAAA AOMBh4uSS+lBgWXNO6uBXp9E2yAAAAAAABAAAABu4iWbM1uYS5MWMpnk1HvKFgAAAEZXOiBQcm90 ZWN0ZWQgbWVzc2FnZQAACwABDgEAAAADABQOAQAAAAIBAGgBAAAAEAAAAG7iJZszW5hLkxYymeTU e8oDAAFoEQAAAB4AAmgBAAAACQAAAElQTS5Ob3RlAAAAAAsAA2gBAAAAAwAEaAAAAAADADOACCAG AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAahQAAAQAAAAsAHw4BAAAAAgH4DwEAAAAQAAAA4wGHi5JL6UGBZc07 q4FenwIB+g8BAAAAEAAAAOMBh4uSS+lBgWXNO6uBXp8DAP4PBQAAAAIBCRABAAAAxQAAAMEAAABH AQAATFpGdUFCii8DAAoAcmNwZzEyNeIyA0N0ZXgFQQEDAff/CoACpAPkBxMCgA/zAFAEVj8IVQey ESUOUQMBAgBjaOEKwHNldDIGAAbDESX2MwRGE7cwEiwRMwjvCfe2OxgfDjA1ESIMYGMAUDMLCQFk MzYWUAumIEqAb2UgQm95bB0QAncIYGxkIGxpa9EdEHRvIBggYwdAAyAMdGgdEAeBc2FnZbAsICJQ A2AOsGMOsLMd0B8lIi4KogqAfSFgAAAAAwANNP0/BQADAA80/T8FAAIBFDQBAAAAEAAAAE5JVEH5 v7gBAKoAN9luAAACAX8AAQAAADEAAAAwMDAwMDAwMEUzMDE4NzhCOTI0QkU5NDE4MTY1Q0QzQkFC ODE1RTlGQzREQjIwMDAAAAAAAwAGECZN8aIDAAcQNgAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAEAAAAeAAgQAQAA ADcAAABKT0VCT1lMRVdPVUxETElLRVRPUkVDQUxMVEhFTUVTU0FHRSwiUFJPVEVDVEVETUVTU0FH RSIAAK/Z ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4F63C.08E5B900-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Sun Jan 9 13:35:39 2005 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:35:39 -0500 Subject: ****** READ ME FIRST PH LIST VIRUS ? ******* Message-ID: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC025926BC@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F650.1BA64A0C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will have our security people look into it. As far as I know (based on = scans etc) my system is not infected with anything. However, e-mail = address theft is very common these days. I strongly recommend that any = unusual attachment be viewed with suspicion, even if you know (or = apparently know) the source. Bob Deskin =20 Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools=20 Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA=20 bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268=20 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: January 9, 2005 4:12 AM To: 'PowerHouse List' Subject: ****** READ ME FIRST PH LIST VIRUS ? ******* Importance: High It occurred to me that there is little point in this warning unless it = is read first :-) =20 _____ =20 From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]=20 Sent: 09 January 2005 09:06 To: 'PowerHouse List' Subject: FW: Protected message =20 Hi all,=20 this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd send it on to = you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me off-list so = you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob. Regards, Joe.=20 _____ =20 From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]=20 Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' Subject: FW: Protected message =20 Hi Bob, =20 Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along with all the = others from the list ? original details below. =20 =20 ****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* ********************************************************************* =20 McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail=20 sent by Bob.Deskin" . The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.=20 We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity=20 to Bob.Deskin" . =20 =20 The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM = Virus(es).=20 This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. =20 =20 Regards, Joe.=20 This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may = be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your = access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, = distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the = information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do = not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and = notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content = of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered = without the consent or knowledge of the author. _____ =20 From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]=20 Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 To: Atla Subject: Protected message=20 =20 This message may contain privileged and/or confidential = information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the = intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; = do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and = notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you.=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F650.1BA64A0C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I will=20 have our security people look into it. As far as I know (based on scans = etc) my=20 system is not infected with anything. However, e-mail address theft is = very=20 common these days. I strongly recommend that any unusual attachment be = viewed=20 with suspicion, even if you know (or apparently know) the=20 source.

Bob=20 Deskin &= nbsp; =20
Senior Product=20 Manager, Application Development Tools
Cognos=20 Inc. 3755=20 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com = (613) 738-1338 ext 7268=20

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On=20 Behalf Of Joe Boyle
Sent: January 9, 2005 4:12 = AM
To:=20 'PowerHouse List'
Subject: ****** READ ME FIRST PH LIST = VIRUS ?=20 *******
Importance: High

It occurred = to me=20 that there is little point in this warning unless it is read first=20 J

From: Joe=20 Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 09:06
To: 'PowerHouse = List'
Subject: FW: Protected=20 message

Hi all,=20

this may be = a problem=20 waiting to happen so I thought I’d send it on to you all as a = warning. I can’t=20 see why Bob would contact me off-list so you might be advised to be = wary if=20 you have anything from Bob.

Regards,=20 Joe.=20

From: Joe=20 Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 08:30
To: = 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com'
Subject: FW: Protected=20 message

Hi=20 Bob,

Just = thought I’d let=20 you know about this message, along with all the others from the list = ?=20 original details below.

****************** =20 McAfee VirusScan ************************

*******=20 Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000=20 *********

******************************************************************= ***

McAfee=20 VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail=20

sent by=20 Bob.Deskin" = <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The=20 following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.=20

We=20 strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity=20

to=20 Bob.Deskin" = <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The = attachment=20 "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es).=20

This=20 attachment has been deleted to complete the clean=20 process.

Regards,=20 Joe.=20

This e-mail = and all=20 information contained in it is confidential and may be legally = privileged. If=20 you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is=20 unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or = copying by=20 you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is = prohibited=20 and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it = immediately from=20 your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have = done so.=20 The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have = been=20 altered without the consent or knowledge of the=20 author.

From:=20 Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 = 03:41
To: Atla
Subject: Protected=20 message

This message may contain privileged and/or confidential = information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not = the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute = it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system = and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. = Thank you.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F650.1BA64A0C-- From g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca Sun Jan 9 14:48:10 2005 From: g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca (Gregory Provost) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:48:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: ****** READ ME FIRST PH LIST VIRUS ? ******* (Joe Boyle) In-Reply-To: <20050109111302.6899.70329.Mailman@sowder.com> Message-ID: <20050109144810.67858.qmail@web51408.mail.yahoo.com> Joe, I'd be willing to bet money that the message in question didn't actually come from Bob Deskin. I'm pretty certain that Cognos, like most large companies, scans incoming as well as outgoing messages for viruses. It probably came from a third party, which has both of your addresses in their address book. This third party is probably using Outlook or Outlook Express and has likely been infected with a virus or trojan that turns their PC into a zombie to forward spoofed messages from one contact to another. They usually conceal the real address of the sender to make it harder for the recipient to determine the actual sender. Check the headers of the message to see if you can obtain the IP address of the true sender. I once had a similar problem. I was receiving identical e-mails with an attached virus almost every day over a period of several weeks. I was able to trace them back to an ISP in South Korea. I forwarded the header information from several messages to the abuse contact at the ISP and they soon stopped. Good luck, - Gregory Provost. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Sun Jan 9 16:15:23 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:15:23 -0000 Subject: ****** READ ME FIRST PH LIST VIRUS ? ******* (Joe Boyle) In-Reply-To: <20050109144810.67858.qmail@web51408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050109161537.980DFE0000D0@ranger.systems.pipex.net> it looks like you are right Gregory, I just got a second email, again from 'Bob', but this time a different virus. Fortunately, Mcafee is cleaning them up for me. Is anyone else on the list affected ? Many apologies to the true BD. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Gregory Provost Sent: 09 January 2005 14:48 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: ****** READ ME FIRST PH LIST VIRUS ? ******* (Joe Boyle) Joe, I'd be willing to bet money that the message in question didn't actually come from Bob Deskin. I'm pretty certain that Cognos, like most large companies, scans incoming as well as outgoing messages for viruses. It probably came from a third party, which has both of your addresses in their address book. This third party is probably using Outlook or Outlook Express and has likely been infected with a virus or trojan that turns their PC into a zombie to forward spoofed messages from one contact to another. They usually conceal the real address of the sender to make it harder for the recipient to determine the actual sender. Check the headers of the message to see if you can obtain the IP address of the true sender. I once had a similar problem. I was receiving identical e-mails with an attached virus almost every day over a period of several weeks. I was able to trace them back to an ISP in South Korea. I forwarded the header information from several messages to the abuse contact at the ISP and they soon stopped. Good luck, - Gregory Provost. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com Sun Jan 9 16:26:33 2005 From: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com (Michael Lee) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:26:33 -0800 Subject: FW: Protected message In-Reply-To: <20050109090557.22DD1E0000A4@ranger.systems.pipex.net> References: <20050109090557.22DD1E0000A4@ranger.systems.pipex.net> Message-ID: <41E15B39.8070402@mclsystemsinc.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040703050101020109000106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joe, I'm always wary of email coming from Bob ;-). Regards, Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. Joe Boyle wrote: > Hi all, > > this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd send it on to > you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me off-list so > you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob. > > Regards, Joe. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 > To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' > Subject: FW: Protected message > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along with all the > others from the list ? original details below. > > > > > > ****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ > > ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* > > ********************************************************************* > > > > McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail > > sent by Bob.Deskin" . > > The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. > > We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity > > to Bob.Deskin" . > > > > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM > Virus(es). > > This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. > > > > > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and > may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your > access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, > distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of > the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. > Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system > and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The > content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been > altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 > To: Atla > Subject: Protected message > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ >******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* >********************************************************************* > >McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail >sent by Bob.Deskin" . >The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. >We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity >to Bob.Deskin" . > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). >This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. > > > > --------------040703050101020109000106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joe,

I'm always wary of email coming from Bob ;-).

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

Joe Boyle wrote:

Hi all,

this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I’d send it on to you all as a warning. I can’t see why Bob would contact me off-list so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob.

Regards, Joe.

From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30
To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com'
Subject: FW: Protected message

Hi Bob,

Just thought I’d let you know about this message, along with all the others from the list ? original details below.

****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************

******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 *********

*********************************************************************

McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail

sent by Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.

We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity

to Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.

The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es).

This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process.

Regards, Joe.

This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author.

From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41
To: Atla
Subject: Protected message
******************   McAfee VirusScan ************************
******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 *********
*********************************************************************

McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail 
sent by Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.
The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. 
We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity 
to Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.


 The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). 
This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process.


  

--------------040703050101020109000106-- From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Sun Jan 9 16:55:04 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:55:04 -0000 Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?re_the_viruses_from_'a_man_named_Bob'_:-=29?= Message-ID: <20050109165518.9A077E0000B4@ranger.systems.pipex.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C4F66B.F86C57C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did find this 'Received: from CCIII.net (geek-5.ras-1.sher.wy.vcn.com [209.193.71.5])'. Can it be used to trace the person in some way, or at least get them into some 'hot water' :-) ? At this time I am assuming that this isn't an innocent intermediary. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C4F66B.F86C57C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable re the viruses from ‘a man named Bob’ :-)

I did = find this = ‘Received: from CCIII.net (geek-5.ras-1.sher.wy.vcn.com = [209.193.71.5])’. Can it be used to trace the person in some way, or at = least get them into some ‘hot water’ J ?

At = this time = I am assuming that this isn’t an innocent intermediary.

Regards, = Joe.

This = e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be = legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access = to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, = publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information = contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any = attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the = sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this = e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without = the consent or knowledge of the author.

------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C4F66B.F86C57C0-- From kosulli3@cosworth-racing.com Mon Jan 10 07:24:23 2005 From: kosulli3@cosworth-racing.com (O'Sullivan, Kevin (K.M.)) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:24:23 -0000 Subject: re the viruses from 'a man named Bob' :-) Message-ID: Hi Joe, I just used some tools on Demon's web site and have this info for you :- Hope this helps. Kevin ------------ Snip ------------- Registrant: Visionary Communications, Inc. (VCN-DOM) 301 S. Douglas Gillette, WY 82716 US Domain Name: VCN.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Malli, Jeremy (JM810) jeremy@VCN.COM Visionary 1001 S. DOUGLAS HWY Suite 201 GILLETTE, WY 82716 US (307) 682-1884 fax: 123 123 1234 Record expires on 02-May-2008. Record created on 01-May-1995. Database last updated on 10-Jan-2005 02:22:06 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.VCN.COM 209.193.72.2 NS2.VCN.COM 209.193.68.2 ------------ Snip ------------- -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: 09 January 2005 16:55 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: re the viruses from 'a man named Bob' :-) I did find this 'Received: from CCIII.net (geek-5.ras-1.sher.wy.vcn.com [209.193.71.5])'. Can it be used to trace the person in some way, or at least get them into some 'hot water' J ? At this time I am assuming that this isn't an innocent intermediary. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Mon Jan 10 10:42:59 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:42:59 -0000 Subject: re the viruses from 'a man named Bob' :-) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050110104318.9635EE000342@ranger.systems.pipex.net> Many thanks Kevin, I'll get in touch with Jeremy and see what he thinks about it. Incidentally, similar details came up at web sites hosted by Jeremy himself, aswell as castlecops and whois sites, so it looks like he is a known source of irritation. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of O'Sullivan, Kevin (K.M.) Sent: 10 January 2005 07:24 To: Joe Boyle; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: re the viruses from 'a man named Bob' :-) Hi Joe, I just used some tools on Demon's web site and have this info for you :- Hope this helps. Kevin ------------ Snip ------------- Registrant: Visionary Communications, Inc. (VCN-DOM) 301 S. Douglas Gillette, WY 82716 US Domain Name: VCN.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Malli, Jeremy (JM810) jeremy@VCN.COM Visionary 1001 S. DOUGLAS HWY Suite 201 GILLETTE, WY 82716 US (307) 682-1884 fax: 123 123 1234 Record expires on 02-May-2008. Record created on 01-May-1995. Database last updated on 10-Jan-2005 02:22:06 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.VCN.COM 209.193.72.2 NS2.VCN.COM 209.193.68.2 ------------ Snip ------------- -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: 09 January 2005 16:55 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: re the viruses from 'a man named Bob' :-) I did find this 'Received: from CCIII.net (geek-5.ras-1.sher.wy.vcn.com [209.193.71.5])'. Can it be used to trace the person in some way, or at least get them into some 'hot water' J ? At this time I am assuming that this isn't an innocent intermediary. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Mon Jan 10 14:46:26 2005 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:46:26 -0500 Subject: FW: Protected message Message-ID: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC025926C1@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F723.2941DC5A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I always knew Michael was a bright fellow :-) =20 Seriously, this has happened before and is another stage in the never-ending SPAM war. Our security people have seen this as well and unless they can find a specific source, it's difficult to stop. As I've said before, suspect anything unusual. =20 Bob -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee Sent: January 9, 2005 11:27 AM To: Joe Boyle Cc: 'PowerHouse List' Subject: Re: FW: Protected message =09 =09 Hi Joe, =09 I'm always wary of email coming from Bob ;-). =09 =09 Regards, =09 =09 Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. =09 =09 Joe Boyle wrote: =09 Hi all,=20 this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd send it on to you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me off-list so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob. Regards, Joe.=20 =09 ________________________________ From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]=20 Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' Subject: FW: Protected message =09 Hi Bob, =09 Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along with all the others from the list ? original details below. =09 =09 ****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* =09 ********************************************************************* =09 McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail=20 sent by Bob.Deskin" . The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.=20 We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity=20 to Bob.Deskin" . =09 =09 The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es).=20 This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. =09 =09 Regards, Joe.=20 This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. =09 ________________________________ From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]=20 Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 To: Atla Subject: Protected message =09 =09 =09 ________________________________ ****************** McAfee VirusScan ************************ ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 ********* =09 ********************************************************************* =09 McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail=20 sent by Bob.Deskin" . The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.=20 We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity=20 to Bob.Deskin" . =09 =09 The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es).=20 This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process.=20 =20 This message may contain privileged and/or confidential = information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the = intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; = do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and = notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you.=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F723.2941DC5A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

I=20 always knew Michael was a bright fellow :-)

Seriously, this has happened before and is = another=20 stage in the never-ending SPAM war. Our security people have seen this = as well=20 and unless they can find a specific source, it's difficult to stop. As = I've said=20 before, suspect anything unusual.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On=20 Behalf Of Michael Lee
Sent: January 9, 2005 11:27=20 AM
To: Joe Boyle
Cc: 'PowerHouse = List'
Subject:=20 Re: FW: Protected message

Hi Joe,

I'm = always wary=20 of email coming from Bob ;-).

Regards,

Michael=20 Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

Joe Boyle wrote:
Hi all,=20

this may = be a=20 problem waiting to happen so I thought I’d send it on to you = all as a=20 warning. I can’t see why Bob would contact me off-list so you = might be=20 advised to be wary if you have anything from=20 Bob.

Regards,=20 Joe.=20

From: Joe=20 Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]=20
Sent: 09 January = 2005=20 08:30
To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com'
Subject: FW: Protected=20 message

Hi=20 Bob,

Just = thought I’d=20 let you know about this message, along with all the others from the = list=20 ? original details below.

****************** =20 McAfee VirusScan = ************************

******* = Alert=20 generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000=20 *********

******************************************************************= ***

McAfee=20 VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail=20

sent=20 by Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.<= O:P>

The=20 following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.=20

We=20 strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity=20

to=20 Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.<= O:P>

The = attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM = Virus(es).=20

This=20 attachment has been deleted to complete the clean=20 process.

Regards,=20 Joe.=20

This = e-mail and all=20 information contained in it is confidential and may be legally = privileged.=20 If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is = unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or = copying=20 by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it = is=20 prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete = it=20 immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by = e-mail that=20 you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments = sent with=20 it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the=20 author.

From:=20 Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]=20
Sent: 09 January = 2005=20 03:41
To: = Atla
Subject: Protected=20 message
******************   McAfee VirusScan ************************
******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 +0000 *********
*********************************************************************

McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail=20
sent by Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.
The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part.=20
We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity=20
to Bob.Deskin" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com>.


 The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM =
Virus(es).=20
This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process.


  

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F723.2941DC5A-- From okappert@canada.com Mon Jan 10 14:56:07 2005 From: okappert@canada.com (Olav Kappert) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:56:07 -0500 Subject: FW: Protected message In-Reply-To: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC025926C1@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> References: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC025926C1@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> Message-ID: <41E29787.4090707@canada.com> Bob: To avoid these type of problems in the future, why not strip all non TEXT attachments from any email going through the list. Olav. Deskin, Bob wrote: >I always knew Michael was a bright fellow :-) > >Seriously, this has happened before and is another stage in the >never-ending SPAM war. Our security people have seen this as well and >unless they can find a specific source, it's difficult to stop. As I've >said before, suspect anything unusual. > >Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee > Sent: January 9, 2005 11:27 AM > To: Joe Boyle > Cc: 'PowerHouse List' > Subject: Re: FW: Protected message > > > Hi Joe, > > I'm always wary of email coming from Bob ;-). > > > Regards, > > > Michael Lee > MCL Systems Inc. > > > Joe Boyle wrote: > > > Hi all, > > this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd >send it on to you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me >off-list so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from >Bob. > > Regards, Joe. > > >________________________________ > > > From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 > To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' > Subject: FW: Protected message > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along >with all the others from the list ? original details below. > > > > > > ****************** McAfee VirusScan >************************ > > ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >+0000 ********* > > >********************************************************************* > > > > McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this >e-mail > > sent by Bob.Deskin" > . > > The following actions were attempted on each suspicious >part. > > We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related >activity > > to Bob.Deskin" > . > > > > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the >W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). > > This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean >process. > > > > > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is >confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended >recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, >dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this >e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and >may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from >your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done >so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have >been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. > > >________________________________ > > > From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 > To: Atla > Subject: Protected message > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > ****************** McAfee VirusScan >************************ > ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >+0000 ********* > >********************************************************************* > > McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this >e-mail > sent by Bob.Deskin" > . > The following actions were attempted on each suspicious >part. > We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related >activity > to Bob.Deskin" > . > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the >W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). > This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean >process. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > > > > From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Mon Jan 10 14:59:52 2005 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:59:52 -0500 Subject: FW: Protected message Message-ID: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC025926C4@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> Because sometimes documents are zipped and sometimes there are diagrams attached. The main things we need to watch for are exe's, scripts, and word/excel macros. I don't recall ever sending (or seeing) these on the list. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Olav Kappert [mailto:okappert@canada.com] Sent: January 10, 2005 9:56 AM To: Deskin, Bob Cc: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com; PowerHouse List Subject: Re: FW: Protected message Bob: To avoid these type of problems in the future, why not strip all non TEXT attachments from any email going through the list. Olav. Deskin, Bob wrote: >I always knew Michael was a bright fellow :-) > >Seriously, this has happened before and is another stage in the >never-ending SPAM war. Our security people have seen this as well and >unless they can find a specific source, it's difficult to stop. As I've >said before, suspect anything unusual. > >Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee > Sent: January 9, 2005 11:27 AM > To: Joe Boyle > Cc: 'PowerHouse List' > Subject: Re: FW: Protected message > > > Hi Joe, > > I'm always wary of email coming from Bob ;-). > > > Regards, > > > Michael Lee > MCL Systems Inc. > > > Joe Boyle wrote: > > > Hi all, > > this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd send it on >to you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me off-list >so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob. > > Regards, Joe. > > >________________________________ > > > From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 > To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' > Subject: FW: Protected message > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along >with all the others from the list ? original details below. > > > > > > ****************** McAfee VirusScan >************************ > > ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >+0000 ********* > > >********************************************************************* > > > > McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail > > sent by Bob.Deskin" > . > > The following actions were attempted on each suspicious part. > > We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related activity > > to Bob.Deskin" >. > > > > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM >Virus(es). > > This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. > > > > > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and >may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your >access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, >distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of >the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. >Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and >notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content >of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered >without the consent or knowledge of the author. > > >________________________________ > > > From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 > To: Atla > Subject: Protected message > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > ****************** McAfee VirusScan >************************ > ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >+0000 ********* > >********************************************************************* > > McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this e-mail > sent by Bob.Deskin" > . > The following actions were attempted on each suspicious >part. > We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related >activity > to Bob.Deskin" > . > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the W32/Bagle.aa@MM >Virus(es). > This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean process. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > > > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Mon Jan 10 15:09:28 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:09:28 -0000 Subject: FW: Protected message In-Reply-To: <41E29787.4090707@canada.com> Message-ID: <20050110150948.45FDBE0006AD@ranger.systems.pipex.net> Hi Olav, to be fair to the list, and Bob, the emails probably did'nt come through the list. Originally I assumed they did because I don't generally get emails from Bob unless the list sends them to me :-) I can't now be sure where the emails came from because I removed the macafee containment files using viruscan; since that time I can no longer see the details because ( presumably ) spamkiller was allowing me to view the files that viruscan has now removed. If I get any more attacks I'll get more detail before having the viruses removed - but fingers crossed there won't be any more ;-( Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Olav Kappert Sent: 10 January 2005 14:56 To: Deskin, Bob Cc: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com; PowerHouse List Subject: Re: FW: Protected message Bob: To avoid these type of problems in the future, why not strip all non TEXT attachments from any email going through the list. Olav. Deskin, Bob wrote: >I always knew Michael was a bright fellow :-) > >Seriously, this has happened before and is another stage in the >never-ending SPAM war. Our security people have seen this as well and >unless they can find a specific source, it's difficult to stop. As I've >said before, suspect anything unusual. > >Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee > Sent: January 9, 2005 11:27 AM > To: Joe Boyle > Cc: 'PowerHouse List' > Subject: Re: FW: Protected message > > > Hi Joe, > > I'm always wary of email coming from Bob ;-). > > > Regards, > > > Michael Lee > MCL Systems Inc. > > > Joe Boyle wrote: > > > Hi all, > > this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd >send it on to you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me >off-list so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from >Bob. > > Regards, Joe. > > >________________________________ > > > From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 > To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' > Subject: FW: Protected message > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along >with all the others from the list ? original details below. > > > > > > ****************** McAfee VirusScan >************************ > > ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >+0000 ********* > > >********************************************************************* > > > > McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this >e-mail > > sent by Bob.Deskin" > . > > The following actions were attempted on each suspicious >part. > > We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related >activity > > to Bob.Deskin" > . > > > > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the >W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). > > This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean >process. > > > > > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is >confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended >recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, >dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this >e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and >may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from >your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done >so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have >been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. > > >________________________________ > > > From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] > Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 > To: Atla > Subject: Protected message > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > ****************** McAfee VirusScan >************************ > ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >+0000 ********* > >********************************************************************* > > McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this >e-mail > sent by Bob.Deskin" > . > The following actions were attempted on each suspicious >part. > We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related >activity > to Bob.Deskin" > . > > > The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the >W32/Bagle.aa@MM Virus(es). > This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean >process. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From sheerich@isu.edu Mon Jan 10 16:30:02 2005 From: sheerich@isu.edu (Richard Sheehan) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:30:02 -0700 Subject: FW: Protected message In-Reply-To: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC025926C4@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> References: <2B4E386EAEC90947802323BF373DC0EC025926C4@sottemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com> Message-ID: <41E2AD8A.1040506@isu.edu> It seems to me that the old PowerHouse List did not allow for any attachments... Of course my memory could be failing. I don't know if this is the case with the New PowerHouse List. In either case, spoofing has been the rage in plenty of email-virus propagation schemes. It would seem more probable that someone who is an active member of this list was infected by the virus. Then in an attempt to propagate; the virus sends emails from the infected computer - to anyone who has sent an email to the list (actually any mail on the infected computer not only the list - unless someone really has something against Cognos - PowerHouse - or maybe even Bob in particular) and/or from anyone who has sent email to the list. If you happen to be caught off guard, your machine becomes involved in the "Your infected and sending me infected email blame game." Richard Sheehan IT Programmer Analyst - T 208-282-2996 Idaho State University Pocatello, ID 83209-8008 Deskin, Bob wrote: >Because sometimes documents are zipped and sometimes there are diagrams >attached. The main things we need to watch for are exe's, scripts, and >word/excel macros. I don't recall ever sending (or seeing) these on the >list. > >Bob > >-----Original Message----- >From: Olav Kappert [mailto:okappert@canada.com] >Sent: January 10, 2005 9:56 AM >To: Deskin, Bob >Cc: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com; PowerHouse List >Subject: Re: FW: Protected message > > >Bob: > >To avoid these type of problems in the future, why not strip all non >TEXT attachments from any email going through the list. > >Olav. > >Deskin, Bob wrote: > > > >>I always knew Michael was a bright fellow :-) >> >>Seriously, this has happened before and is another stage in the >>never-ending SPAM war. Our security people have seen this as well and >>unless they can find a specific source, it's difficult to stop. As I've >> >> > > > >>said before, suspect anything unusual. >> >>Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >>[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee >> Sent: January 9, 2005 11:27 AM >> To: Joe Boyle >> Cc: 'PowerHouse List' >> Subject: Re: FW: Protected message >> >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> I'm always wary of email coming from Bob ;-). >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Michael Lee >> MCL Systems Inc. >> >> >> Joe Boyle wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> this may be a problem waiting to happen so I thought I'd >> >> >send it on > > >>to you all as a warning. I can't see why Bob would contact me off-list >>so you might be advised to be wary if you have anything from Bob. >> >> Regards, Joe. >> >> >>________________________________ >> >> >> From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] >> Sent: 09 January 2005 08:30 >> To: 'Bob.Deskin@cognos.com' >> Subject: FW: Protected message >> >> >> >> Hi Bob, >> >> >> >> Just thought I'd let you know about this message, along >>with all the others from the list ? original details below. >> >> >> >> >> >> ****************** McAfee VirusScan >>************************ >> >> ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >>+0000 ********* >> >> >>********************************************************************* >> >> >> >> McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this >> >> >e-mail > > >> sent by Bob.Deskin" >> . >> >> The following actions were attempted on each suspicious >> >> >part. > > >> We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related >> >> >activity > > >> to Bob.Deskin" >> >> > > > >>. >> >> >> >> >> >> The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the >> >> >W32/Bagle.aa@MM > > >>Virus(es). >> >> This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean >> >> >process. > > >> >> >> >> >> Regards, Joe. >> >> This e-mail and all information contained in it is >> >> >confidential and > > >>may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your >>access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, >>distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of >>the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. >>Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and >> >> > > > >>notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content >> >> > > > >>of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered >>without the consent or knowledge of the author. >> >> >>________________________________ >> >> >> From: Bob.Deskin [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] >> Sent: 09 January 2005 03:41 >> To: Atla >> Subject: Protected message >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> >> >> >> ****************** McAfee VirusScan >>************************ >> ******* Alert generated at: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:49:21 >>+0000 ********* >> >>********************************************************************* >> >> McAfee VirusScan has detected a potential threat in this >> >> >e-mail > > >> sent by Bob.Deskin" >> . >> The following actions were attempted on each suspicious >>part. >> We strongly recommend that you report this virus-related >>activity >> to Bob.Deskin" >> . >> >> >> The attachment "MoreInfo.exe" is infected with the >> >> >W32/Bagle.aa@MM > > >>Virus(es). >> This attachment has been deleted to complete the clean >> >> >process. > > >> >> This message may contain privileged and/or confidential >>information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the >> >> >intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; >do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and >notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > > >> >> >> >> > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > From g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca Mon Jan 10 16:33:52 2005 From: g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca (Gregory Provost) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:33:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: FW: Protected message In-Reply-To: <20050110150006.6101.36895.Mailman@sowder.com> Message-ID: <20050110163353.29733.qmail@web51409.mail.yahoo.com> I used my Yahoo account to subscribe to this list partly because it automatically scans attachments for viruses. I don't have to worry about keeping any antivirus software up to date - the folks at Yahoo do it for me. If I remember correctly, they use the Symantec/Norton software. I presume GMail and Hotmail do something similar. - Greg. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From Christina.Hasse@COGNOS.com Mon Jan 10 20:26:36 2005 From: Christina.Hasse@COGNOS.com (Hasse, Christina) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:26:36 -0500 Subject: FW: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Message-ID: Just an FYI for those with the appropriate skills........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Shahan, Ray Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:11 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Hi all, Don't recall if employment postings are supposed to be OT, so please forgive if they are was supposed to. We have a short term, 90 day, contract opportunity here in Wisconsin (just outside of Green Bay). Some points to ponder: Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort problems with the cold, this may not work for you. The dress code is casual. You must be very good at COBOL, VIEW, IMAGE, QEDIT and SUPRTOOL (at least 10 years experience would be good). You must be available very quickly. Most of the work, while referred to as maintenance, usually consist of having to get really intimate with the programs/process in order to effect the requested change. An extension past the 90 days is fairly unlikely (not budgeted). You need to be able to work under little supervision, be easy to get along with, and work under difficult deadlines. You need to be able to hit-the-ground running with very little hand holding. While there are people here to help with the existing legacy programs should you have any questions, they are hard to get hold of since they are working on all the 'new stuff'. There are the usual array of short-term lodging (Extended Stay America, Hampton Inn, etc.) in the area, and many have agreements with the us for discounted rates. Please reply off-line to me at RSHAHAN@SCHOOLSPECIALTY.COM I will make every effort to let every respondent know when/if a candidate is chosen. TIA for your time, and I wish you all the best, Ray Shahan Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: -- WOW!!! What a Ride! -- * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From guy.werry@hbms.ca Mon Jan 10 21:20:02 2005 From: guy.werry@hbms.ca (Guy Werry) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:20:02 -0600 Subject: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Message-ID: For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost spring-like conditions, eh! Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort problems with the cold, this may not work for you. Ah well ..... Guy L. Werry Senior Systems Analyst Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. From Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com Tue Jan 11 12:13:57 2005 From: Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com (Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:13:57 -0000 Subject: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Message-ID: <6C3B8000CBA8B149B952AB4654465B5EBAE373@rbiohhex01.qhs.rbi.gni> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7D6.D73A933E Content-Type: text/plain Miss the cold... Here we have about 11-12 plus! And rain of course! Kind Regards Mikael Olesen _______________________________ Mikael Olesen Analyst Programmer Quadrant Subscription Services Haywards Heath United Kingdom tel: 01444 445340 email: mikael.olesen@qss-uk.com -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Guy Werry Sent: 10 January 2005 21:20 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost spring-like conditions, eh! Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort problems with the cold, this may not work for you. Ah well ..... Guy L. 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Miss the cold...
Here we have about 11-12 plus! And rain of course!

Kind Regards

Mikael Olesen
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Analyst Programmer
Quadrant Subscription Services
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-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Guy Werry
Sent: 10 January 2005 21:20
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract = opportunity

For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost sprin= g-like conditions,
eh!

Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening)= cold in the
winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, = and the high for
Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you= have health/comfort
problems with the cold, this may not work for you.

Ah well .....

Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited.

Just to be sure we're on the same page Guy, Celsius = not Fahrenheit right? Good thing too, our igloos here in = Burlington are melting. We could use the cold and snow to build = them back up. Had to equip the dog sled with wheels last week for = the lack of snow ;-)

Daniel Mielke
Business Systems Analyst
AIC Limited

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Werry [mailto:guy.werry@hbms.ca]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:20 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) = contract opportunity

For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost = spring-like conditions,
eh!

Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life = threatening) cold in the
winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday = night, and the high for
Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If = you have health/comfort
problems with the cold, this may not work for = you.

Ah well .....

Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. =
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7F2.FF244590-- From guy.werry@hbms.ca Tue Jan 11 15:50:56 2005 From: guy.werry@hbms.ca (Guy Werry) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:50:56 -0600 Subject: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7F5.5696FB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, sorry, we're talking Celsius. Just in case any of you are feeling sorry for me, this weekend's forecast is for a HIGH of -35! I'm sure grateful for the wood heater at times like that. Regarding the igloos ... my youngest son used to get ahold of Americans (USA) in chat rooms and tell them stories like that ... of how he had to hook up the dog sleigh and travel down to Winnipeg (750 km!) to purchase a car! You wouldn't believe the stories he could get away with! Truthfully, when you hop into the truck when it's -35(c) you almost need ski pants, otherwise your bum gets numb as all of the heat gets sucked out of it! Guy. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Mielke [mailto:DMielke@aic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:34 AM To: 'Guy Werry'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Just to be sure we're on the same page Guy, Celsius not Fahrenheit right? Good thing too, our igloos here in Burlington are melting. We could use the cold and snow to build them back up. Had to equip the dog sled with wheels last week for the lack of snow ;-) Daniel Mielke Business Systems Analyst AIC Limited -----Original Message----- From: Guy Werry [ mailto:guy.werry@hbms.ca ] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:20 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost spring-like conditions, eh! Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort problems with the cold, this may not work for you. Ah well ..... Guy L. Werry Senior Systems Analyst Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7F5.5696FB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity

Yes, sorry, we're talking Celsius. Just in case any of you are feeling sorry for me, this weekend's forecast is for a HIGH of -35! I'm sure grateful for the wood heater at times like that.

Regarding the igloos ... my youngest son used to get ahold of Americans (USA) in chat rooms and tell them stories like that ... of how he had to hook up the dog sleigh and travel down to Winnipeg (750 km!) to purchase a car! You wouldn't believe the stories he could get away with!

Truthfully, when you hop into the truck when it's -35(c) you almost need ski pants, otherwise your bum gets numb as all of the heat gets sucked out of it!

Guy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Mielke [mailto:DMielke@aic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:34 AM
To: 'Guy Werry'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity

Just to be sure we're on the same page Guy, Celsius not Fahrenheit right? Good thing too, our igloos here in Burlington are melting. We could use the cold and snow to build them back up. Had to equip the dog sled with wheels last week for the lack of snow ;-)

Daniel Mielke
Business Systems Analyst
AIC Limited

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Werry [mailto:guy.werry@hbms.ca]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:20 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity

For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost spring-like conditions,
eh!

Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the
winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for
Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort
problems with the cold, this may not work for you.

Ah well .....

Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7F5.5696FB40-- From dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Tue Jan 11 15:52:48 2005 From: dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com (David Morrison - Corporate) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:52:48 -0800 Subject: Cold temperatures Message-ID: <7F881AB8EE5D97418624950B85E10543026738@srvrcpexchange.mcb_corp.mcbrideelectric.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7F5.99815B16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not that I'm an expert on experiencing low temperatures, but when you're = talking -35 it hardly matters if it's F or C; -40 is the same in either = scale. =20 David Morrison San Diego (60F with rain), California -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Guy Werry Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Yes, sorry, we're talking Celsius. Just in case any of you are feeling = sorry for me, this weekend's forecast is for a HIGH of -35! I'm sure = grateful for the wood heater at times like that. =20 Regarding the igloos ... my youngest son used to get ahold of Americans = (USA) in chat rooms and tell them stories like that ... of how he had to = hook up the dog sleigh and travel down to Winnipeg (750 km!) to purchase = a car! You wouldn't believe the stories he could get away with! =20 Truthfully, when you hop into the truck when it's -35(c) you almost need = ski pants, otherwise your bum gets numb as all of the heat gets sucked = out of it! =20 Guy. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Mielke [mailto:DMielke@aic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:34 AM To: 'Guy Werry'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity Just to be sure we're on the same page Guy, Celsius not Fahrenheit = right? Good thing too, our igloos here in Burlington are melting. We = could use the cold and snow to build them back up. Had to equip the dog = sled with wheels last week for the lack of snow ;-) Daniel Mielke=20 Business Systems Analyst=20 AIC Limited=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Guy Werry [ mailto:guy.werry@hbms.ca]=20 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:20 PM=20 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com=20 Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity=20 For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost spring-like = conditions,=20 eh!=20 Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the=20 winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for = Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort=20 problems with the cold, this may not work for you.=20 Ah well .....=20 Guy L. Werry=20 Senior Systems Analyst=20 Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited.=20 =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D=20 Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com=20 Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to = powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com=20 Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to = powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com=20 http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l=20 This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7F5.99815B16 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract = opportunity

Not=20 that I'm an expert on experiencing low temperatures, but when you're = talking -35=20 it hardly matters if it's F or C; -40 is the same in either=20 scale.

David=20 Morrison

San=20 Diego (60F with rain), California

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On=20 Behalf Of Guy Werry
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:51 = AM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: = [HP3000-L] A=20 short term (90 days) contract opportunity

Yes,=20 sorry, we're talking Celsius. Just in case any of you are = feeling sorry=20 for me, this weekend's forecast is for a HIGH of -35! I'm sure = grateful=20 for the wood heater at times like that.

Regarding the igloos ... my youngest son = used to get=20 ahold of Americans (USA) in chat rooms and tell them stories like = that=20 ... of how he had to hook up the dog sleigh and travel down to = Winnipeg (750=20 km!) to purchase a car! You wouldn't believe the stories he = could get=20 away with!

Truthfully, when you hop into the truck = when it's=20 -35(c) you almost need ski pants, otherwise your bum gets numb as all = of the=20 heat gets sucked out of it!

Guy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Mielke=20 [mailto:DMielke@aic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 = 9:34=20 AM
To: 'Guy Werry'; = powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject:=20 RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract=20 opportunity

Just to be sure we're on the same page Guy, = Celsius not=20 Fahrenheit right? Good thing too, our igloos here in = Burlington are=20 melting. We could use the cold and snow to build them back = up. =20 Had to equip the dog sled with wheels last week for the lack of snow = ;-)

Daniel Mielke
Business = Systems=20 Analyst
AIC Limited

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy=20 Werry [mailto:guy.werry@hbms.ca]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:20 = PM=20
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract=20 opportunity

For those of us in Northern Canada those are = almost=20 spring-like conditions,
eh!

Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life = threatening)=20 cold in the
winter (we will hit -20 below = zero this=20 Saturday night, and the high for
Saturday = will only=20 be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort =
problems with the cold, this may not work for you. =

Ah well .....

Guy L. Werry
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F7F5.99815B16-- From Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com Tue Jan 11 21:21:57 2005 From: Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com (Lemin, Graeme) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:21:57 +1100 Subject: Cold temperatures Message-ID: Is now a bad time to mention that it's 37C (or about 98F) here in Australia? Powerhouse content - We're on the verge of upgrading from 7.10.G1 under VMS to 8.40D. Any known gotchas? regards Graeme Lemin Melbourne (with sunscreen), Australia > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [SMTP:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of David Morrison - Corporate > Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2005 2:53 am > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: Cold temperatures > > Not that I'm an expert on experiencing low temperatures, but when you're talking -35 it hardly matters if it's F or C; -40 is the same in either scale. > > David Morrison > San Diego (60F with rain), California > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Guy Werry > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:51 AM > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity > > > Yes, sorry, we're talking Celsius. Just in case any of you are feeling sorry for me, this weekend's forecast is for a HIGH of -35! I'm sure grateful for the wood heater at times like that. > > Regarding the igloos ... my youngest son used to get ahold of Americans (USA) in chat rooms and tell them stories like that ... of how he had to hook up the dog sleigh and travel down to Winnipeg (750 km!) to purchase a car! You wouldn't believe the stories he could get away with! > > Truthfully, when you hop into the truck when it's -35(c) you almost need ski pants, otherwise your bum gets numb as all of the heat gets sucked out of it! > > Guy. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Mielke [mailto:DMielke@aic.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:34 AM > To: 'Guy Werry'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity > > > > Just to be sure we're on the same page Guy, Celsius not Fahrenheit right? Good thing too, our igloos here in Burlington are melting. We could use the cold and snow to build them back up. Had to equip the dog sled with wheels last week for the lack of snow ;-) > > Daniel Mielke > Business Systems Analyst > AIC Limited > > -----Original Message----- > From: Guy Werry [] > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:20 PM > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity > > For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost spring-like conditions, > eh! > > Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the > winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for > Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort > problems with the cold, this may not work for you. > > Ah well ..... > > Guy L. Werry > Senior Systems Analyst > Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > From David.Reynolds@phs.com Tue Jan 11 21:34:17 2005 From: David.Reynolds@phs.com (Reynolds David E) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:34:17 -0800 Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question Message-ID: <6ECB5C0F9EB31940AC770DF9104E50800F38C043@codenvem1.phs.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F825.4E065FF7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I am working for PacifiCare of California in support of a regional PPO system running on VMS v. 7.3-1. Part of this application is using Cognos QTP v. 7.10.G2. We have a need to resolve a problem where we receive an "Internal memory error" message which causes program termination after the 620th input "selection" parameter value is read from an external file into a QTP application. We have set parameter "INPUT NOLIMIT" earlier in the request. Each input selection parameter after parameter # 1 is 11 characters in length (10 characters plus the "@" wildcard at the end to force a read to the end of the primary key). The 1st parameter is a 6-character date. PacifiCare does not have a current support contract with Cognos, so we cannot browse the Cognos knowledge base. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help. Classification: External David Reynolds > EDI/Technical Team Lead - accenture Client Phone (Pacificare) 303.224.7867 Pager 877.597.3132 Client E-mail (Pacificare) david.reynolds@phs.com (PacifiCare) Accenture E-mail david.e.reynolds@accenture.com E-mail page (240 char) 8775973132@skytel.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from PacifiCare Health Systems Inc. which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. 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Hello.

I am working for PacifiCare o= =66= California in support of a regional PPO system running on VMS v. = 7.3-1. Part of this application is using Cognos QTP v. = 7.10.G2.

We have a need to resolve a = problem where we receive an "Internal memory error" message which causes = program termination after the 620^th input = "selection" parameter value is read from an external file into a QTP = application. We have set parameter "INPUT NOLIMIT" earlier in the = request. Each input selection parameter after parameter # 1 is = 11 characters in length (10 characters plus the "@" wildcard at the = end to force a read to the end of the primary key). The = 1^st parameter is a 6-character date.

PacifiCare does not have a = current support contract with Cognos, so we cannot browse the Cognos = knowledge base.

Thank you in advance to anyon= e= who can help.

Classification: External

David Reynolds

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EDI/Technical Team Lead - accenture

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F825.4E065FF7-- From guy.werry@hbms.ca Tue Jan 11 21:48:16 2005 From: guy.werry@hbms.ca (Guy Werry) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:48:16 -0600 Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F827.41E8B800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" David, Although I'm not on VMS, I would guess that you've hit an internal limit on the number of inputs. Are these selections in response to a CHOOSE verb? Note that the "INPUT NOLIMIT" refers to the number of records being read from the database, it's nothing to do with the number of input selection values. Guy L. Werry Senior Systems Analyst Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. -----Original Message----- From: Reynolds David E [mailto:David.Reynolds@phs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:34 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Cc: Smith Torin Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question Hello. I am working for PacifiCare of California in support of a regional PPO system running on VMS v. 7.3-1. Part of this application is using Cognos QTP v. 7.10.G2. We have a need to resolve a problem where we receive an "Internal memory error" message which causes program termination after the 620th input "selection" parameter value is read from an external file into a QTP application. We have set parameter "INPUT NOLIMIT" earlier in the request. Each input selection parameter after parameter # 1 is 11 characters in length (10 characters plus the "@" wildcard at the end to force a read to the end of the primary key). The 1st parameter is a 6-character date. PacifiCare does not have a current support contract with Cognos, so we cannot browse the Cognos knowledge base. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help. BM__MailAutoSig Classification: External David Reynolds > EDI/Technical Team Lead - accenture Client Phone (Pacificare) 303.224.7867 Pager 877.597.3132 Client E-mail (Pacificare) david.reynolds@phs.com (PacifiCare) Accenture E-mail david.e.reynolds@accenture.com E-mail page (240 char) 8775973132@skytel.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from PacifiCare Health Systems Inc. which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a "reply to sender only" message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F827.41E8B800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question

David,

Although I'm not on VMS, I would guess that you've hit an internal limit on the number of inputs.

Are these selections in response to a CHOOSE verb?

Note that the "INPUT NOLIMIT" refers to the number of records being read from the database, it's nothing to do with the number of input selection values.

Guy L. Werry
Senior Systems Analyst
Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited.

-----Original Message-----
From: Reynolds David E [mailto:David.Reynolds@phs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:34 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Cc: Smith Torin
Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question

Hello.

I am working for PacifiCare of California in support of a regional PPO system running on VMS v. 7.3-1.   Part of this application is using Cognos QTP v. 7.10.G2.

We have a need to resolve a problem where we receive an "Internal memory error" message which causes program termination after the 620^th input "selection" parameter value is read from an external file into a QTP application. We have set parameter "INPUT NOLIMIT" earlier in the request.   Each input selection parameter after parameter # 1 is 11 characters in length (10 characters plus the "@" wildcard at the end to force a read to the end of the primary key).   The 1^st parameter is a 6-character date.

PacifiCare does not have a current support contract with Cognos, so we cannot browse the Cognos knowledge base.

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help.

Classification: External

David Reynolds

                                                     >

EDI/Technical Team Lead - accenture

Client Phone (Pacificare)       303.224.7867
Pager                   877.597.3132

Client E-mail (Pacificare)      david.reynolds@phs.com (PacifiCare)

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F827.41E8B800-- From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 11 22:24:39 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:24:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question In-Reply-To: <6ECB5C0F9EB31940AC770DF9104E50800F38C043@codenvem1.phs.com> Message-ID: <20050111222439.9803.qmail@web81307.mail.yahoo.com> G'day David It sounds like a limitation in the OpenVMS session to me. Have someone check the user session limits. Blue --- Reynolds David E wrote: > Hello. > > I am working for PacifiCare of California in support > of a regional PPO > system running on VMS v. 7.3-1. Part of this > application is using Cognos > QTP v. 7.10.G2. > > We have a need to resolve a problem where we receive > an "Internal memory > error" message which causes program termination > after the 620th input > "selection" parameter value is read from an external > file into a QTP > application. We have set parameter "INPUT NOLIMIT" > earlier in the request. > Each input selection parameter after parameter # 1 > is 11 characters in > length (10 characters plus the "@" wildcard at the > end to force a read to > the end of the primary key). The 1st parameter is > a 6-character date. > > PacifiCare does not have a current support contract > with Cognos, so we > cannot browse the Cognos knowledge base. > > Thank you in advance to anyone who can help. > > > Classification: External > David Reynolds > > > > EDI/Technical Team Lead - accenture > Client Phone (Pacificare) 303.224.7867 > Pager 877.597.3132 > Client E-mail (Pacificare) david.reynolds@phs.com > (PacifiCare) > Accenture E-mail david.e.reynolds@accenture.com > E-mail page (240 char) 8775973132@skytel.com > > > > This electronic message transmission, including any > attachments, contains information from PacifiCare > Health Systems Inc. which may be confidential or > privileged. The information is intended to be for > the use of the individual or entity named above. If > you are not the intended recipient, be aware that > any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the > contents of this information is prohibited. > If you have received this electronic transmission in > error, please notify the sender immediately by a > "reply to sender only" message and destroy all > electronic and hard copies of the communication, > including attachments. > > From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Tue Jan 11 22:25:14 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:25:14 -0000 Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question In-Reply-To: <6ECB5C0F9EB31940AC770DF9104E50800F38C043@codenvem1.phs.com> Message-ID: <20050111222514.7984EE000241@galaxy.systems.pipex.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C4F82C.6DEBDCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You don't say how you are prompting but I believe that the limit is 500 responses for a choose. How are you reading the file entries e.g. into defines, choose stmnts ? Have you tried observing process limits, varying the number of responses in the input file ? you might be running out/low on a quota. Incidentally, how are you pointing to the input file - by mapping sys$input, or using the parmfile option, or are you actually reading it as part of the access stmnt ? Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. _____ From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Reynolds David E Sent: 11 January 2005 21:34 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Cc: Smith Torin Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question Hello. I am working for PacifiCare of California in support of a regional PPO system running on VMS v. 7.3-1. Part of this application is using Cognos QTP v. 7.10.G2. We have a need to resolve a problem where we receive an "Internal memory error" message which causes program termination after the 620th input "selection" parameter value is read from an external file into a QTP application. We have set parameter "INPUT NOLIMIT" earlier in the request. Each input selection parameter after parameter # 1 is 11 characters in length (10 characters plus the "@" wildcard at the end to force a read to the end of the primary key). The 1st parameter is a 6-character date. PacifiCare does not have a current support contract with Cognos, so we cannot browse the Cognos knowledge base. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help. Classification: External David Reynolds > EDI/Technical Team Lead - accenture Client Phone (Pacificare) 303.224.7867 Pager 877.597.3132 Client E-mail (Pacificare) david.reynolds@phs.com (PacifiCare) Accenture E-mail david.e.reynolds@accenture.com E-mail page (240 char) 8775973132@skytel.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from PacifiCare Health Systems Inc. which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. 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You don’t say how you are = prompting but I believe that the limit is 500 responses for a choose. =

How are you reading the file = entries e.g. into defines, choose stmnts ?

Have you tried observing process = limits, varying the number of responses in the input file ? you might be running out/low on a quota.

Incidentally, how are you pointing = to the input file – by mapping sys$input, or using the parmfile option, = or are you actually reading it as part of the access stmnt = ?

Regards, Joe.

From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] = On Behalf Of Reynolds David E
Sent: 11 January 2005 = 21:34
To: = powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Cc: Smith Torin
Subject: Cognos 4th GL = (QTP) memory question

Hello.

I am working for PacifiCare of California in support of a regional PPO = system running on VMS v. 7.3-1. Part of this application is using = Cognos QTP v. 7.10.G2.

We have a need to resolve a problem where we receive an "Internal = memory error" message which causes program termination after the = 620^th input "selection" parameter value is read from an external = file into a QTP application. We have set parameter "INPUT NOLIMIT" earlier in the request. Each input selection parameter after parameter # 1 is 11 characters in length (10 characters plus the "@" wildcard at the end to force a read to the end of the = primary key). The 1^st parameter is a 6-character = date.

PacifiCare does not have a current support contract with Cognos, so we cannot = browse the Cognos knowledge base.

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help.

Classification: = External

David Reynolds

&= nbsp; &n= bsp; &nb= sp; &nbs= p; >

EDI/Technical Team Lead - accenture =

Client Phone = (Pacificare) 303.224.7867
Pager = 877.597.3132

Client E-mail = (Pacificare) david.reynolds@phs.com (PacifiCare)

Accenture = E-mail = david.e.reynolds@accenture.com

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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C4F82C.6DEBDCC0-- From markstewart@consultantsclub.biz Tue Jan 11 22:49:38 2005 From: markstewart@consultantsclub.biz (Mark Stewart) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:49:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Cognos 4th GL (QTP) memory question In-Reply-To: <20050111223033.17192.71566.Mailman@sowder.com> Message-ID: <20050111224938.36175.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, seen your reply from the BI group. This is the nuts of bolts of the ADT side over here on this list. Try executing the commands from SYS$STARTUP:VMS$CONFIG-050_JOBCTL.COM to see what pagefile quota you get. $page_size = f$getsyi("page_size") / 512 $total_page = f$getsyi("pagefile_page") * page_size $min_jobctl_pagelets = 40960 $if total_page .lt. 2*min_jobctl_pagelets $then pagefile = min_jobctl_pagelets $else pagefile = total_page/2 Now compare it with the actual quota for JOB_CONTROL and QUEUE_MANAGER using $ pgflquota=F$GETJPI(pid,"PGFLQUOTA") (where "pid") is the PID of JOB_CONTROL and then QUEUE_MANAGER. Track the page file consumption over time by running a periodic job - say every 5 minutes which finds the PAGFILCNT. Does it increase over time? You may have to raise your pagefile quota. Corner one of your VMS guys and pick his brain. Mark Stewart Windsor, Ontario Canada From gavin.lloyd@fmglobal.com Wed Jan 12 09:08:27 2005 From: gavin.lloyd@fmglobal.com (Lloyd, Gavin) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:08:27 -0000 Subject: Cold temperatures Message-ID: We had some problems with qtp transactions (RDB on VMS) with version 8.30: 'SET FILE xxx OPEN READ' does not create a read only transaction This affected our locking strategy so we have not upgraded. Not sure if this was going to be addressed for future versions or was classed as functionality change. Regards, Gavin. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Lemin, Graeme Sent: 11 January 2005 21:22 To: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: Cold temperatures Is now a bad time to mention that it's 37C (or about 98F) here in Australia? Powerhouse content - We're on the verge of upgrading from 7.10.G1 under VMS to 8.40D. Any known gotchas? regards Graeme Lemin Melbourne (with sunscreen), Australia > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [SMTP:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of David Morrison - Corporate > Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2005 2:53 am > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: Cold temperatures > > Not that I'm an expert on experiencing low temperatures, but when you're talking -35 it hardly matters if it's F or C; -40 is the same in either scale. > > David Morrison > San Diego (60F with rain), California > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Guy Werry > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:51 AM > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity > > > Yes, sorry, we're talking Celsius. Just in case any of you are feeling sorry for me, this weekend's forecast is for a HIGH of -35! I'm sure grateful for the wood heater at times like that. > > Regarding the igloos ... my youngest son used to get ahold of Americans (USA) in chat rooms and tell them stories like that ... of how he had to hook up the dog sleigh and travel down to Winnipeg (750 km!) to purchase a car! You wouldn't believe the stories he could get away with! > > Truthfully, when you hop into the truck when it's -35(c) you almost need ski pants, otherwise your bum gets numb as all of the heat gets sucked out of it! > > Guy. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Mielke [mailto:DMielke@aic.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:34 AM > To: 'Guy Werry'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity > > > > Just to be sure we're on the same page Guy, Celsius not Fahrenheit right? Good thing too, our igloos here in Burlington are melting. We could use the cold and snow to build them back up. Had to equip the dog sled with wheels last week for the lack of snow ;-) > > Daniel Mielke > Business Systems Analyst > AIC Limited > > -----Original Message----- > From: Guy Werry [] > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:20 PM > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] A short term (90 days) contract opportunity > > For those of us in Northern Canada those are almost spring-like conditions, > eh! > > Yes, Wisconsin can be brutally (read as life threatening) cold in the > winter (we will hit -20 below zero this Saturday night, and the high for > Saturday will only be -5 below zero). If you have health/comfort > problems with the cold, this may not work for you. > > Ah well ..... > > Guy L. Werry > Senior Systems Analyst > Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > From ShugartP@trinity-health.org Wed Jan 12 13:03:27 2005 From: ShugartP@trinity-health.org (Pat Shugart) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:03:27 -0500 Subject: QTP migration questions Message-ID: Hello all, We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages of our migration from the HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the decisions we need to make is what to do about QTP. Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL for other apps). As I understand it, performance is the greatest advantage of doing this. The "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of our QTP code (and document it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have approximately 85 QTP processes of varying degrees of complexity. Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The advantage is that relatively few changes will need to be made to our code and the migration/test period can be shortened. The great unknown is performance. Is it (nearly) as fast as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a comparison to what happened to Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same tool it was on the HP3000. I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison docs between the MPE and HPUX versions of QTP. I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical thoughts regarding our choices. Please don't call or email me about migration "solutions". Most of those decisions have already been made. Although alternatives to the choices above are welcome... This may have been a duplicate post * my first attempt was rejected when I sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. Thanks in advance, `�..�`�..�`�..�`�..�`�..� Pat Shugart Trinity Information Services 34605 Twelve Mile Road Farmington Hills, MI 48331 248.489.6123 248.488.9195 (fax) From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 12 13:38:09 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:38:09 -0000 Subject: QTP migration questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112133814.77536E000153@astro.systems.pipex.net> I can't see what database you are using but memory tells me that Oracle was quite slow on Mpe, so, in my opinion, this will be faster on the 9000 without any changes. As always, choose will be equivalent in performance to sql declare cursor syntax, but qtp 'select if' syntax will always be slower that anything that is processed within the database e.g. 5 minute runs reduced to 5 seconds when using cursors. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Pat Shugart Sent: 12 January 2005 13:03 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: QTP migration questions Hello all, We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages of our migration from the HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the decisions we need to make is what to do about QTP. Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL for other apps). As I understand it, performance is the greatest advantage of doing this. The "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of our QTP code (and document it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have approximately 85 QTP processes of varying degrees of complexity. Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The advantage is that relatively few changes will need to be made to our code and the migration/test period can be shortened. The great unknown is performance. Is it (nearly) as fast as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a comparison to what happened to Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same tool it was on the HP3000. I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison docs between the MPE and HPUX versions of QTP. I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical thoughts regarding our choices. Please don't call or email me about migration "solutions". Most of those decisions have already been made. Although alternatives to the choices above are welcome... This may have been a duplicate post * my first attempt was rejected when I sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. Thanks in advance, `....`....`....`....`.... Pat Shugart Trinity Information Services 34605 Twelve Mile Road Farmington Hills, MI 48331 248.489.6123 248.488.9195 (fax) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From ShugartP@trinity-health.org Wed Jan 12 13:41:23 2005 From: ShugartP@trinity-health.org (Pat Shugart) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:41:23 -0500 Subject: QTP migration questions Message-ID: I'm sorry. Forgot to mention we'll be migrating to an Oracle database environment located on the HP9000 (HP-UX). >>> "Joe Boyle" 1/12/2005 8:38:09 AM >>> I can't see what database you are using but memory tells me that Oracle was quite slow on Mpe, so, in my opinion, this will be faster on the 9000 without any changes. As always, choose will be equivalent in performance to sql declare cursor syntax, but qtp 'select if' syntax will always be slower that anything that is processed within the database e.g. 5 minute runs reduced to 5 seconds when using cursors. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Pat Shugart Sent: 12 January 2005 13:03 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: QTP migration questions Hello all, We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages of our migration from the HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the decisions we need to make is what to do about QTP. Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL for other apps). As I understand it, performance is the greatest advantage of doing this. The "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of our QTP code (and document it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have approximately 85 QTP processes of varying degrees of complexity. Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The advantage is that relatively few changes will need to be made to our code and the migration/test period can be shortened. The great unknown is performance. Is it (nearly) as fast as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a comparison to what happened to Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same tool it was on the HP3000. I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison docs between the MPE and HPUX versions of QTP. I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical thoughts regarding our choices. Please don't call or email me about migration "solutions". Most of those decisions have already been made. Although alternatives to the choices above are welcome... This may have been a duplicate post * my first attempt was rejected when I sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. Thanks in advance, `....`....`....`....`.... Pat Shugart Trinity Information Services 34605 Twelve Mile Road Farmington Hills, MI 48331 248.489.6123 248.488.9195 (fax) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Ken@Langendock.com Wed Jan 12 13:51:54 2005 From: Ken@Langendock.com (Ken Langendock) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:51:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: QTP migration questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112135154.88398.qmail@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I guess it comes down to what your timeline is: Are you replacing Powerhouse completely or just thinking about replacing QTP? I work for a company that sells multi-million dollar powerhouse product and have improved QTP using cursors. There are some cases where moving more functionallity into the database improves performance. But this may only become appearent after being in production for a while. If you are just worried about qtp. Convert the app and add cursors to every qtp process. You will see an incredible performance improvement. Ken --- Pat Shugart wrote: > I'm sorry. Forgot to mention we'll be migrating to > an Oracle database > environment located on the HP9000 (HP-UX). > > >>> "Joe Boyle" 1/12/2005 > 8:38:09 AM >>> > I can't see what database you are using but memory > tells me that Oracle > was > quite slow on Mpe, so, in my opinion, this will be > faster on the 9000 > without any changes. > > As always, choose will be equivalent in performance > to sql declare > cursor > syntax, but qtp 'select if' syntax will always be > slower that anything > that > is processed within the database e.g. 5 minute runs > reduced to 5 > seconds > when using cursors. > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is > confidential and may > be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, your access > to > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, > distribution, > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any > of the information > contained within it is prohibited and may be > unlawful. Do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system > and notify the > sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The > content of this e-mail > and any > attachments sent with it may have been altered > without the consent or > knowledge of the author. > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Pat Shugart > Sent: 12 January 2005 13:03 > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: QTP migration questions > > Hello all, > > We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages of > our migration from > the > HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the > decisions we need to > make > is what to do about QTP. > > Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL > for other apps). As > I > understand it, performance is the greatest advantage > of doing this. > The > "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of our > QTP code (and > document > it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have > approximately 85 > QTP > processes of varying degrees of complexity. > > Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The > advantage is that > relatively > few changes will need to be made to our code and the > migration/test > period > can be shortened. The great unknown is performance. > Is it (nearly) as > fast > as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a > comparison to what happened > to > Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same > tool it was on the > HP3000. > I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison > docs between the MPE > and > HPUX versions of QTP. > > I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical > thoughts regarding > our > choices. Please don't call or email me about > migration "solutions". > Most of > those decisions have already been made. Although > alternatives to the > choices > above are welcome... > > This may have been a duplicate post * my first > attempt was rejected > when I > sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. > > Thanks in advance, > > > `....`....`....`....`.... > Pat Shugart > Trinity Information Services > 34605 Twelve Mile Road > Farmington Hills, MI 48331 > 248.489.6123 > 248.488.9195 (fax) > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a > subscriber. > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > From ShugartP@trinity-health.org Wed Jan 12 14:21:40 2005 From: ShugartP@trinity-health.org (Pat Shugart) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:21:40 -0500 Subject: QTP migration questions Message-ID: Good points, Ken. We're not replacing Powerhouse. We're keeping QUIZ already and trying to figure out whether or not to add QTP. Our decision to continue to use QTP comes down to two things: Timeline and performance. If we convert QTP to , we do not have the resources to do it in-house and maintain our timeline. So, each QTP process will have to be documented for a re-write for the company doing the re-write. We do not document each individual process in our jobs, only the overall process being performed for the business. So, we'd have to go into each QTP and write down what it does. That alone will impact the project schedule. Ken, when you write that moving more functionality into the database will improve performance, what do you mean by that? Placing business logic into things like stored procedures? I'm not Oracle-savvy, so please excuse my ignorance. I have been promised by the time the project is complete, I'll know more about Oracle than I'll ever care to. :) Thanks, /pat >>> ken.langendock@rogers.com 1/12/2005 8:51:54 AM >>> I guess it comes down to what your timeline is: Are you replacing Powerhouse completely or just thinking about replacing QTP? I work for a company that sells multi-million dollar powerhouse product and have improved QTP using cursors. There are some cases where moving more functionallity into the database improves performance. But this may only become appearent after being in production for a while. If you are just worried about qtp. Convert the app and add cursors to every qtp process. You will see an incredible performance improvement. Ken --- Pat Shugart wrote: > I'm sorry. Forgot to mention we'll be migrating to > an Oracle database > environment located on the HP9000 (HP-UX). > > >>> "Joe Boyle" 1/12/2005 > 8:38:09 AM >>> > I can't see what database you are using but memory > tells me that Oracle > was > quite slow on Mpe, so, in my opinion, this will be > faster on the 9000 > without any changes. > > As always, choose will be equivalent in performance > to sql declare > cursor > syntax, but qtp 'select if' syntax will always be > slower that anything > that > is processed within the database e.g. 5 minute runs > reduced to 5 > seconds > when using cursors. > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is > confidential and may > be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, your access > to > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, > distribution, > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any > of the information > contained within it is prohibited and may be > unlawful. Do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system > and notify the > sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The > content of this e-mail > and any > attachments sent with it may have been altered > without the consent or > knowledge of the author. > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Pat Shugart > Sent: 12 January 2005 13:03 > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: QTP migration questions > > Hello all, > > We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages of > our migration from > the > HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the > decisions we need to > make > is what to do about QTP. > > Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL > for other apps). As > I > understand it, performance is the greatest advantage > of doing this. > The > "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of our > QTP code (and > document > it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have > approximately 85 > QTP > processes of varying degrees of complexity. > > Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The > advantage is that > relatively > few changes will need to be made to our code and the > migration/test > period > can be shortened. The great unknown is performance. > Is it (nearly) as > fast > as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a > comparison to what happened > to > Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same > tool it was on the > HP3000. > I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison > docs between the MPE > and > HPUX versions of QTP. > > I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical > thoughts regarding > our > choices. Please don't call or email me about > migration "solutions". > Most of > those decisions have already been made. Although > alternatives to the > choices > above are welcome... > > This may have been a duplicate post * my first > attempt was rejected > when I > sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. > > Thanks in advance, > > > `....`....`....`....`.... > Pat Shugart > Trinity Information Services > 34605 Twelve Mile Road > Farmington Hills, MI 48331 > 248.489.6123 > 248.488.9195 (fax) > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a > subscriber. > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no Wed Jan 12 14:59:38 2005 From: jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no (Jon Kvisli) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:59:38 +0100 Subject: SV: QTP migration questions Message-ID: <7047A2A32201004E968B9D6292ADD44E493E0A@ex-srv-01.exchangemail.no> >We're not replacing Powerhouse. Then I strongly advise you to KEEP your QTP programs, but spend some time optimizing ACCESS statements using cursors and SQL. This advise is based on personal, practical experience from converting two large systems (2-300 QTPs) from HP3000/Image to HP9000/Oracle. We then searched for other / better batch-processig tools, but finally decided to stay with QTP. However, you WILL have to do changes in the QTP source. Due to the way QTP interacts with a relational database, most QTPs will do a high number of SQL-calls and perform VERY bad if ACCESS statements are left unchanged. The big issue is to let the databaseserver do most of the job by extracting only the data needed by QTP (that is moving functionality into the database). This will reduce the number of SQL calls from QTP to Oracle, and also reduce network traffic returning data back to QTP. If you do a good job rewriting ACCESS statements using cursors and SQL, you will most likely get performance that is even much better than the original qtp. Another way of moving functionality into the database, is using stored procedures in PL/SQL, but this is more useful for moving business logic away from QDESIGN/QUICK programs, than with QTP. regards Jon Kvisli principal consultant 3800 Bo in Telemark Norway jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no From VNguyen@wsboces.org Wed Jan 12 15:05:04 2005 From: VNguyen@wsboces.org (Viet Nguyen) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:05:04 -0500 Subject: Powerhouse migration questions Message-ID: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F20316141E@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Hi , I am in the process of moving from cisam to oracle using AIX - (we are keeping powerhouse in Unix) I would like to know if anyone out there has a parser or a smart search/replace routine to help with converting the Access statement otherwise I think it will take us forever to manually make these changes! Thanks in advance. Viet. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Jon Kvisli Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:00 AM To: Pat Shugart; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: SV: QTP migration questions >We're not replacing Powerhouse. Then I strongly advise you to KEEP your QTP programs, but spend some time optimizing ACCESS statements using cursors and SQL. This advise is based on personal, practical experience from converting two large systems (2-300 QTPs) from HP3000/Image to HP9000/Oracle. We then searched for other / better batch-processig tools, but finally decided to stay with QTP. However, you WILL have to do changes in the QTP source. Due to the way QTP interacts with a relational database, most QTPs will do a high number of SQL-calls and perform VERY bad if ACCESS statements are left unchanged. The big issue is to let the databaseserver do most of the job by extracting only the data needed by QTP (that is moving functionality into the database). This will reduce the number of SQL calls from QTP to Oracle, and also reduce network traffic returning data back to QTP. If you do a good job rewriting ACCESS statements using cursors and SQL, you will most likely get performance that is even much better than the original qtp. Another way of moving functionality into the database, is using stored procedures in PL/SQL, but this is more useful for moving business logic away from QDESIGN/QUICK programs, than with QTP. regards Jon Kvisli principal consultant 3800 Bo in Telemark Norway jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Ken@Langendock.com Wed Jan 12 15:29:59 2005 From: Ken@Langendock.com (Ken Langendock) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:29:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: QTP migration questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112152959.48825.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ok from what you have told me here, my suggestion would be to keep QTP running. Learn basic SQL and replace all your access statments with cursor. First off your team will be learning SQL and still using their experience in powerhouse. They should also be learning VI to allow them to float from one Unix line to another....believe me, Qedit (or whatever you use is obsolete) and you can get VIM for the PC. Then comes the fun part. If after you have implemented cursors and did not get enough of a performance improvment from doing this (which I doubt, I used to call Turbo Image...Turtle image after moving to a unix/oracle env), you can start moving some of the business logic into the database. Ie. Integrity triggers (if I add a record here, it needs to update that field over there in that file), this should remove some code. Next add Views, you should be able to remove more code from this and finally stored procedures. Here is where you will take the most amount of time and remove the most amount of code from your QTP processes. Hope this helps...this is my approach. Ken --- Pat Shugart wrote: > Good points, Ken. > > We're not replacing Powerhouse. We're keeping QUIZ > already and trying > to figure out whether or not to add QTP. > > Our decision to continue to use QTP comes down to > two things: Timeline > and performance. > > If we convert QTP to , we do not have the > resources to do it > in-house and maintain our timeline. So, each QTP > process will have to be > documented for a re-write for the company doing the > re-write. We do not > document each individual process in our jobs, only > the overall process > being performed for the business. So, we'd have to > go into each QTP and > write down what it does. That alone will impact the > project schedule. > > Ken, when you write that moving more functionality > into the database > will improve performance, what do you mean by that? > Placing business > logic into things like stored procedures? I'm not > Oracle-savvy, so > please excuse my ignorance. I have been promised by > the time the project > is complete, I'll know more about Oracle than I'll > ever care to. :) > > Thanks, > /pat > > >>> ken.langendock@rogers.com 1/12/2005 8:51:54 AM > >>> > I guess it comes down to what your timeline is: > Are you replacing Powerhouse completely or just > thinking about replacing QTP? > > I work for a company that sells multi-million dollar > powerhouse product and have improved QTP using > cursors. There are some cases where moving more > functionallity into the database improves > performance. > But this may only become appearent after being in > production for a while. > > If you are just worried about qtp. Convert the app > and > add cursors to every qtp process. You will see an > incredible performance improvement. > > Ken > --- Pat Shugart wrote: > > > I'm sorry. Forgot to mention we'll be migrating to > > an Oracle database > > environment located on the HP9000 (HP-UX). > > > > >>> "Joe Boyle" 1/12/2005 > > 8:38:09 AM >>> > > I can't see what database you are using but memory > > tells me that Oracle > > was > > quite slow on Mpe, so, in my opinion, this will be > > faster on the 9000 > > without any changes. > > > > As always, choose will be equivalent in > performance > > to sql declare > > cursor > > syntax, but qtp 'select if' syntax will always be > > slower that anything > > that > > is processed within the database e.g. 5 minute > runs > > reduced to 5 > > seconds > > when using cursors. > > > > Regards, Joe. > > > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is > > confidential and may > > be > > legally privileged. If you are not the intended > > recipient, your access > > to > > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, > dissemination, > > distribution, > > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or > any > > of the information > > contained within it is prohibited and may be > > unlawful. Do not open any > > attachments, delete it immediately from your > system > > and notify the > > sender > > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The > > content of this e-mail > > and any > > attachments sent with it may have been altered > > without the consent or > > knowledge of the author. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > > Of Pat Shugart > > Sent: 12 January 2005 13:03 > > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > > Subject: QTP migration questions > > > > Hello all, > > > > We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages > of > > our migration from > > the > > HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the > > decisions we need to > > make > > is what to do about QTP. > > > > Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL > > for other apps). As > > I > > understand it, performance is the greatest > advantage > > of doing this. > > The > > "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of > our > > QTP code (and > > document > > it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have > > approximately 85 > > QTP > > processes of varying degrees of complexity. > > > > Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The > > advantage is that > > relatively > > few changes will need to be made to our code and > the > > migration/test > > period > > can be shortened. The great unknown is > performance. > > Is it (nearly) as > > fast > > as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a > > comparison to what happened > > to > > Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same > > tool it was on the > > HP3000. > > I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison > > docs between the MPE > > and > > HPUX versions of QTP. > > > > I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical > > thoughts regarding > > our > > choices. Please don't call or email me about > > migration "solutions". > > Most of > > those decisions have already been made. Although > > alternatives to the > > choices > > above are welcome... > > > > This may have been a duplicate post * my first > > attempt was rejected > > when I > > sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > `....`....`....`....`.... > > Pat Shugart > > Trinity Information Services > > 34605 Twelve Mile Road > > Farmington Hills, MI 48331 > > 248.489.6123 > > 248.488.9195 (fax) > > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = > > = = > === message truncated === From Ken@Langendock.com Wed Jan 12 15:36:51 2005 From: Ken@Langendock.com (Ken Langendock) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Powerhouse migration questions In-Reply-To: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F20316141E@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Message-ID: <20050112153651.60951.qmail@web88009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Unfortunately I have never run across anything that could modify the access statements "smartly" You really need to understand the database to get any real bang for your buck. The only short cut I can think of is placing all the fields you need in the cursor. Powerhouse returns the whole record even if you only need one field, a cursor will only return the individual fields you need. This will speed things up and a junior level programmer can do this. Otherwise, pick the access statements from your heaviest processes and attack them first. You could get up and running with onlly part of the system optomized and keep going from there. Depending on where you are located. There are contractors (like myself ;) who can help you convert to Oracle. After all we are in the day of the Global Village. Ken --- Viet Nguyen wrote: > Hi , > I am in the process of moving from cisam to oracle > using AIX - (we are > keeping powerhouse in Unix) I would like to know if > anyone out there has > a parser or a smart search/replace routine to help > with converting the > Access statement otherwise I think it will take us > forever to manually > make these changes! > Thanks in advance. > Viet. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Jon Kvisli > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:00 AM > To: Pat Shugart; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: SV: QTP migration questions > > >We're not replacing Powerhouse. > > Then I strongly advise you to KEEP your QTP > programs, but spend some > time optimizing ACCESS statements using cursors and > SQL. This advise is > based on personal, practical experience from > converting two large > systems (2-300 QTPs) from HP3000/Image to > HP9000/Oracle. We then > searched for other / better batch-processig tools, > but finally decided > to stay with QTP. > > However, you WILL have to do changes in the QTP > source. Due to the way > QTP interacts with a relational database, most QTPs > will do a high > number of SQL-calls and perform VERY bad if ACCESS > statements are left > unchanged. The big issue is to let the > databaseserver do most of the job > by extracting only the data needed by QTP (that is > moving functionality > into the database). This will reduce the number of > SQL calls from QTP to > Oracle, and also reduce network traffic returning > data back to QTP. If > you do a good job rewriting ACCESS statements using > cursors and SQL, you > will most likely get performance that is even much > better than the > original qtp. > > Another way of moving functionality into the > database, is using stored > procedures in PL/SQL, but this is more useful for > moving business logic > away from QDESIGN/QUICK programs, than with QTP. > > regards > Jon Kvisli > principal consultant > 3800 Bo in Telemark > Norway > jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > From Jonbickel@aol.com Wed Jan 12 16:33:10 2005 From: Jonbickel@aol.com (Jonbickel@aol.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:33:10 -0500 Subject: QTP migration questions Message-ID: <70F5F0D5.373A529B.025D893D@aol.com> Ken raises a very good practical point regarding the performance boost implicit in the platform/db change itself. In my one HP3k to HP9k upgrade/migration, absolutely everything ran faster on the UNIX side. Thus performance was never an issue from the user's perspective and I was able gradually incorporate optimizing changes such as cursors and views while making typical day-to-day functional enhancements after the migration was complete. Granted, the performance boost was partially due to hardware upgrades in the migration, but this implicit change may be a factor in Pat's case as well. As may the distinction between 'optimal' and required performance. jb In a message dated 1/12/2005 10:29:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ken Langendock writes: >Ok from what you have told me here, my suggestion >would be to keep QTP running. Learn basic SQL and >replace all your access statments with cursor. First >off your team will be learning SQL and still using >their experience in powerhouse. They should also be >learning VI to allow them to float from one Unix line >to another....believe me, Qedit (or whatever you use >is obsolete) and you can get VIM for the PC. > >Then comes the fun part. If after you have implemented >cursors and did not get enough of a performance >improvment from doing this (which I doubt, I used to >call Turbo Image...Turtle image after moving to a >unix/oracle env), you can start moving some of the >business logic into the database. Ie. Integrity >triggers (if I add a record here, it needs to update >that field over there in that file), this should >remove some code. Next add Views, you should be able >to remove more code from this and finally stored >procedures. Here is where you will take the most >amount of time and remove the most amount of code from >your QTP processes. > >Hope this helps...this is my approach. >Ken > > > > > --- Pat Shugart wrote: >> Good points, Ken. >> >> We're not replacing Powerhouse. We're keeping QUIZ >> already and trying >> to figure out whether or not to add QTP. >> >> Our decision to continue to use QTP comes down to >> two things: Timeline >> and performance. >> >> If we convert QTP to , we do not have the >> resources to do it >> in-house and maintain our timeline. So, each QTP >> process will have to be >> documented for a re-write for the company doing the >> re-write. We do not >> document each individual process in our jobs, only >> the overall process >> being performed for the business. So, we'd have to >> go into each QTP and >> write down what it does. That alone will impact the >> project schedule. >> >> Ken, when you write that moving more functionality >> into the database >> will improve performance, what do you mean by that? >> Placing business >> logic into things like stored procedures? I'm not >> Oracle-savvy, so >> please excuse my ignorance. I have been promised by >> the time the project >> is complete, I'll know more about Oracle than I'll >> ever care to. :) >> >> Thanks, >> /pat >> >> >>> ken.langendock@rogers.com 1/12/2005 8:51:54 AM >> >>> >> I guess it comes down to what your timeline is: >> Are you replacing Powerhouse completely or just >> thinking about replacing QTP? >> >> I work for a company that sells multi-million dollar >> powerhouse product and have improved QTP using >> cursors. There are some cases where moving more >> functionallity into the database improves >> performance. >> But this may only become appearent after being in >> production for a while. >> >> If you are just worried about qtp. Convert the app >> and >> add cursors to every qtp process. You will see an >> incredible performance improvement. >> >> Ken >> --- Pat Shugart wrote: >> >> > I'm sorry. Forgot to mention we'll be migrating to >> > an Oracle database >> > environment located on the HP9000 (HP-UX). >> > >> > >>> "Joe Boyle" 1/12/2005 >> > 8:38:09 AM >>> >> > I can't see what database you are using but memory >> > tells me that Oracle >> > was >> > quite slow on Mpe, so, in my opinion, this will be >> > faster on the 9000 >> > without any changes. >> > >> > As always, choose will be equivalent in >> performance >> > to sql declare >> > cursor >> > syntax, but qtp 'select if' syntax will always be >> > slower that anything >> > that >> > is processed within the database e.g. 5 minute >> runs >> > reduced to 5 >> > seconds >> > when using cursors. >> > >> > Regards, Joe. >> > >> > This e-mail and all information contained in it is >> > confidential and may >> > be >> > legally privileged. If you are not the intended >> > recipient, your access >> > to >> > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, >> dissemination, >> > distribution, >> > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or >> any >> > of the information >> > contained within it is prohibited and may be >> > unlawful. Do not open any >> > attachments, delete it immediately from your >> system >> > and notify the >> > sender >> > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The >> > content of this e-mail >> > and any >> > attachments sent with it may have been altered >> > without the consent or >> > knowledge of the author. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >> > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf >> > Of Pat Shugart >> > Sent: 12 January 2005 13:03 >> > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >> > Subject: QTP migration questions >> > >> > Hello all, >> > >> > We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages >> of >> > our migration from >> > the >> > HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the >> > decisions we need to >> > make >> > is what to do about QTP. >> > >> > Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL >> > for other apps). As >> > I >> > understand it, performance is the greatest >> advantage >> > of doing this. >> > The >> > "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of >> our >> > QTP code (and >> > document >> > it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have >> > approximately 85 >> > QTP >> > processes of varying degrees of complexity. >> > >> > Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The >> > advantage is that >> > relatively >> > few changes will need to be made to our code and >> the >> > migration/test >> > period >> > can be shortened. The great unknown is >> performance. >> > Is it (nearly) as >> > fast >> > as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a >> > comparison to what happened >> > to >> > Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same >> > tool it was on the >> > HP3000. >> > I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison >> > docs between the MPE >> > and >> > HPUX versions of QTP. >> > >> > I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical >> > thoughts regarding >> > our >> > choices. Please don't call or email me about >> > migration "solutions". >> > Most of >> > those decisions have already been made. Although >> > alternatives to the >> > choices >> > above are welcome... >> > >> > This may have been a duplicate post * my first >> > attempt was rejected >> > when I >> > sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. >> > >> > Thanks in advance, >> > >> > >> > `....`....`....`....`.... >> > Pat Shugart >> > Trinity Information Services >> > 34605 Twelve Mile Road >> > Farmington Hills, MI 48331 >> > 248.489.6123 >> > 248.488.9195 (fax) >> > >> > >> > >> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> = >> > = = >> >=== message truncated === >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 12 20:31:03 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:31:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: QTP migration questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112203103.65624.qmail@web81307.mail.yahoo.com> G'day Pat My experience with SQL cursors is not good. If you can recode QTP into SQL without having to resort to the use of cursors then you will probably see a performance gain. SQL is not as "logical" to program in as QTP as it typically doesn't have discrete boundaries like REQUESTs. This makes it a bit harder to understand and debug for me. Blue --- Pat Shugart wrote: > Hello all, > > We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages of > our migration from the HP3000 to Amisys Advance on > an HP9000. One of the decisions we need to make is > what to do about QTP. > > Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL > for other apps). As I understand it, performance is > the greatest advantage of doing this. The > "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of our > QTP code (and document it!) and it would take quite > some time, as we have approximately 85 QTP processes > of varying degrees of complexity. > > Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The > advantage is that relatively few changes will need > to be made to our code and the migration/test period > can be shortened. The great unknown is performance. > Is it (nearly) as fast as SQL code? For you HP3000 > users, I draw a comparison to what happened to > Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same > tool it was on the HP3000. I haven't been able to > find any sort of comparison docs between the MPE and > HPUX versions of QTP. > > I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical > thoughts regarding our choices. Please don't call or > email me about migration "solutions". Most of those > decisions have already been made. Although > alternatives to the choices above are welcome... > > This may have been a duplicate post * my first > attempt was rejected when I sent it to the previous > listserv address. Sorry. > > Thanks in advance, > > > `�..�`�..�`�..�`�..�`�..� > Pat Shugart > Trinity Information Services > 34605 Twelve Mile Road > Farmington Hills, MI 48331 > 248.489.6123 > 248.488.9195 (fax) > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 12 20:39:31 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:39:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Powerhouse migration questions In-Reply-To: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F20316141E@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Message-ID: <20050112203931.81516.qmail@web81302.mail.yahoo.com> Does Axiant have such a tool? I know it is good for converting non-relational to relational syntax in PH code. Blue --- Viet Nguyen wrote: > Hi , > I am in the process of moving from cisam to oracle > using AIX - (we are > keeping powerhouse in Unix) I would like to know if > anyone out there has > a parser or a smart search/replace routine to help > with converting the > Access statement otherwise I think it will take us > forever to manually > make these changes! > Thanks in advance. > Viet. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Jon Kvisli > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:00 AM > To: Pat Shugart; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: SV: QTP migration questions > > >We're not replacing Powerhouse. > > Then I strongly advise you to KEEP your QTP > programs, but spend some > time optimizing ACCESS statements using cursors and > SQL. This advise is > based on personal, practical experience from > converting two large > systems (2-300 QTPs) from HP3000/Image to > HP9000/Oracle. We then > searched for other / better batch-processig tools, > but finally decided > to stay with QTP. > > However, you WILL have to do changes in the QTP > source. Due to the way > QTP interacts with a relational database, most QTPs > will do a high > number of SQL-calls and perform VERY bad if ACCESS > statements are left > unchanged. The big issue is to let the > databaseserver do most of the job > by extracting only the data needed by QTP (that is > moving functionality > into the database). This will reduce the number of > SQL calls from QTP to > Oracle, and also reduce network traffic returning > data back to QTP. If > you do a good job rewriting ACCESS statements using > cursors and SQL, you > will most likely get performance that is even much > better than the > original qtp. > > Another way of moving functionality into the > database, is using stored > procedures in PL/SQL, but this is more useful for > moving business logic > away from QDESIGN/QUICK programs, than with QTP. > > regards > Jon Kvisli > principal consultant > 3800 Bo in Telemark > Norway > jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 12 20:38:01 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:38:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: SV: QTP migration questions In-Reply-To: <7047A2A32201004E968B9D6292ADD44E493E0A@ex-srv-01.exchangemail.no> Message-ID: <20050112203801.71706.qmail@web81305.mail.yahoo.com> Pat To clarify my earlier message I was referring to database cursors, those create and used within objects such a stored procedures. Most of the other respondents are referring to the Cognos idea of a cursor which is construct in QTP created in order to make SQL calls to the database. Blue --- Jon Kvisli wrote: > >We're not replacing Powerhouse. > > Then I strongly advise you to KEEP your QTP > programs, but spend some time optimizing ACCESS > statements using cursors and SQL. This advise is > based on personal, practical experience from > converting two large systems (2-300 QTPs) from > HP3000/Image to HP9000/Oracle. We then searched for > other / better batch-processig tools, but finally > decided to stay with QTP. > > However, you WILL have to do changes in the QTP > source. Due to the way QTP interacts with a > relational database, most QTPs will do a high number > of SQL-calls and perform VERY bad if ACCESS > statements are left unchanged. The big issue is to > let the databaseserver do most of the job by > extracting only the data needed by QTP (that is > moving functionality into the database). This will > reduce the number of SQL calls from QTP to Oracle, > and also reduce network traffic returning data back > to QTP. If you do a good job rewriting ACCESS > statements using cursors and SQL, you will most > likely get performance that is even much better than > the original qtp. > > Another way of moving functionality into the > database, is using stored procedures in PL/SQL, but > this is more useful for moving business logic away > from QDESIGN/QUICK programs, than with QTP. > > regards > Jon Kvisli > principal consultant > 3800 Bo in Telemark > Norway > jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 12 21:51:00 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:51:00 -0000 Subject: SV: QTP migration questions In-Reply-To: <20050112203801.71706.qmail@web81305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050112215104.7D784E000368@blaster.systems.pipex.net> my comments related to QTP performance are certainly related to the PowerHouse QTP cursor concept and syntax as opposed to the original caller's ( assumed ) current processing with standard non-cursor access syntax. I.e. if you replace QTP syntax like 'access filea link ... to filen ...' with QTP syntax like 'declare qtpC as cursor for select itemlist from tablelist ...', I suspect that you will see a large performance increase. And even if you leave your QTP syntax as is, when moving from Mpe to Unix with Oracle, QTP will still run faster. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Edis Sent: 12 January 2005 20:38 To: PowerHouse List Subject: Re: SV: QTP migration questions Pat To clarify my earlier message I was referring to database cursors, those create and used within objects such a stored procedures. Most of the other respondents are referring to the Cognos idea of a cursor which is construct in QTP created in order to make SQL calls to the database. Blue --- Jon Kvisli wrote: > >We're not replacing Powerhouse. > > Then I strongly advise you to KEEP your QTP > programs, but spend some time optimizing ACCESS > statements using cursors and SQL. This advise is > based on personal, practical experience from > converting two large systems (2-300 QTPs) from > HP3000/Image to HP9000/Oracle. We then searched for > other / better batch-processig tools, but finally > decided to stay with QTP. > > However, you WILL have to do changes in the QTP > source. Due to the way QTP interacts with a > relational database, most QTPs will do a high number > of SQL-calls and perform VERY bad if ACCESS > statements are left unchanged. The big issue is to > let the databaseserver do most of the job by > extracting only the data needed by QTP (that is > moving functionality into the database). This will > reduce the number of SQL calls from QTP to Oracle, > and also reduce network traffic returning data back > to QTP. If you do a good job rewriting ACCESS > statements using cursors and SQL, you will most > likely get performance that is even much better than > the original qtp. > > Another way of moving functionality into the > database, is using stored procedures in PL/SQL, but > this is more useful for moving business logic away > from QDESIGN/QUICK programs, than with QTP. > > regards > Jon Kvisli > principal consultant > 3800 Bo in Telemark > Norway > jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 12 23:45:16 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:45:16 -0000 Subject: Powerhouse migration questions In-Reply-To: <20050112203931.81516.qmail@web81302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050112234520.AB89FE000248@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Axiant might be useful in that it provides a GUI interface in terms of creating linkages - but this is limited to screen design (and to Quiz). There is nothing created by default when creating QTP runs within Axiant, you are literally faced with a blank screen; when working with Axiant I used to create my default access statements with Quiz and then cut and paste them into QTP. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Edis Sent: 12 January 2005 20:40 To: PowerHouse List Subject: RE: Powerhouse migration questions Does Axiant have such a tool? I know it is good for converting non-relational to relational syntax in PH code. Blue --- Viet Nguyen wrote: > Hi , > I am in the process of moving from cisam to oracle > using AIX - (we are > keeping powerhouse in Unix) I would like to know if > anyone out there has > a parser or a smart search/replace routine to help > with converting the > Access statement otherwise I think it will take us > forever to manually > make these changes! > Thanks in advance. > Viet. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Jon Kvisli > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:00 AM > To: Pat Shugart; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: SV: QTP migration questions > > >We're not replacing Powerhouse. > > Then I strongly advise you to KEEP your QTP > programs, but spend some > time optimizing ACCESS statements using cursors and > SQL. This advise is > based on personal, practical experience from > converting two large > systems (2-300 QTPs) from HP3000/Image to > HP9000/Oracle. We then > searched for other / better batch-processig tools, > but finally decided > to stay with QTP. > > However, you WILL have to do changes in the QTP > source. Due to the way > QTP interacts with a relational database, most QTPs > will do a high > number of SQL-calls and perform VERY bad if ACCESS > statements are left > unchanged. The big issue is to let the > databaseserver do most of the job > by extracting only the data needed by QTP (that is > moving functionality > into the database). This will reduce the number of > SQL calls from QTP to > Oracle, and also reduce network traffic returning > data back to QTP. If > you do a good job rewriting ACCESS statements using > cursors and SQL, you > will most likely get performance that is even much > better than the > original qtp. > > Another way of moving functionality into the > database, is using stored > procedures in PL/SQL, but this is more useful for > moving business logic > away from QDESIGN/QUICK programs, than with QTP. > > regards > Jon Kvisli > principal consultant > 3800 Bo in Telemark > Norway > jon.kvisli@exchangemail.no > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From ShugartP@trinity-health.org Thu Jan 13 13:33:04 2005 From: ShugartP@trinity-health.org (Pat Shugart) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:33:04 -0500 Subject: QTP migration questions Message-ID: Jon, That is one thing I wouldn't have thought to be true (better base performance), but from the replies I've gotten and from other companies that have migrated, it seems to be the case. Let's hope that holds true for us! I'd like to thank everyone who replied. I've been given a lot of good information to discuss with our programmers and DBAs. /pat >>> 1/12/2005 11:33:10 AM >>> Ken raises a very good practical point regarding the performance boost implicit in the platform/db change itself. In my one HP3k to HP9k upgrade/migration, absolutely everything ran faster on the UNIX side. Thus performance was never an issue from the user's perspective and I was able gradually incorporate optimizing changes such as cursors and views while making typical day-to-day functional enhancements after the migration was complete. Granted, the performance boost was partially due to hardware upgrades in the migration, but this implicit change may be a factor in Pat's case as well. As may the distinction between 'optimal' and required performance. jb In a message dated 1/12/2005 10:29:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ken Langendock writes: >Ok from what you have told me here, my suggestion >would be to keep QTP running. Learn basic SQL and >replace all your access statments with cursor. First >off your team will be learning SQL and still using >their experience in powerhouse. They should also be >learning VI to allow them to float from one Unix line >to another....believe me, Qedit (or whatever you use >is obsolete) and you can get VIM for the PC. > >Then comes the fun part. If after you have implemented >cursors and did not get enough of a performance >improvment from doing this (which I doubt, I used to >call Turbo Image...Turtle image after moving to a >unix/oracle env), you can start moving some of the >business logic into the database. Ie. Integrity >triggers (if I add a record here, it needs to update >that field over there in that file), this should >remove some code. Next add Views, you should be able >to remove more code from this and finally stored >procedures. Here is where you will take the most >amount of time and remove the most amount of code from >your QTP processes. > >Hope this helps...this is my approach. >Ken > > > > > --- Pat Shugart wrote: >> Good points, Ken. >> >> We're not replacing Powerhouse. We're keeping QUIZ >> already and trying >> to figure out whether or not to add QTP. >> >> Our decision to continue to use QTP comes down to >> two things: Timeline >> and performance. >> >> If we convert QTP to , we do not have the >> resources to do it >> in-house and maintain our timeline. So, each QTP >> process will have to be >> documented for a re-write for the company doing the >> re-write. We do not >> document each individual process in our jobs, only >> the overall process >> being performed for the business. So, we'd have to >> go into each QTP and >> write down what it does. That alone will impact the >> project schedule. >> >> Ken, when you write that moving more functionality >> into the database >> will improve performance, what do you mean by that? >> Placing business >> logic into things like stored procedures? I'm not >> Oracle-savvy, so >> please excuse my ignorance. I have been promised by >> the time the project >> is complete, I'll know more about Oracle than I'll >> ever care to. :) >> >> Thanks, >> /pat >> >> >>> ken.langendock@rogers.com 1/12/2005 8:51:54 AM >> >>> >> I guess it comes down to what your timeline is: >> Are you replacing Powerhouse completely or just >> thinking about replacing QTP? >> >> I work for a company that sells multi-million dollar >> powerhouse product and have improved QTP using >> cursors. There are some cases where moving more >> functionallity into the database improves >> performance. >> But this may only become appearent after being in >> production for a while. >> >> If you are just worried about qtp. Convert the app >> and >> add cursors to every qtp process. You will see an >> incredible performance improvement. >> >> Ken >> --- Pat Shugart wrote: >> >> > I'm sorry. Forgot to mention we'll be migrating to >> > an Oracle database >> > environment located on the HP9000 (HP-UX). >> > >> > >>> "Joe Boyle" 1/12/2005 >> > 8:38:09 AM >>> >> > I can't see what database you are using but memory >> > tells me that Oracle >> > was >> > quite slow on Mpe, so, in my opinion, this will be >> > faster on the 9000 >> > without any changes. >> > >> > As always, choose will be equivalent in >> performance >> > to sql declare >> > cursor >> > syntax, but qtp 'select if' syntax will always be >> > slower that anything >> > that >> > is processed within the database e.g. 5 minute >> runs >> > reduced to 5 >> > seconds >> > when using cursors. >> > >> > Regards, Joe. >> > >> > This e-mail and all information contained in it is >> > confidential and may >> > be >> > legally privileged. If you are not the intended >> > recipient, your access >> > to >> > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, >> dissemination, >> > distribution, >> > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or >> any >> > of the information >> > contained within it is prohibited and may be >> > unlawful. Do not open any >> > attachments, delete it immediately from your >> system >> > and notify the >> > sender >> > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The >> > content of this e-mail >> > and any >> > attachments sent with it may have been altered >> > without the consent or >> > knowledge of the author. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com >> > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf >> > Of Pat Shugart >> > Sent: 12 January 2005 13:03 >> > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >> > Subject: QTP migration questions >> > >> > Hello all, >> > >> > We're an Amisys shop in the final planning stages >> of >> > our migration from >> > the >> > HP3000 to Amisys Advance on an HP9000. One of the >> > decisions we need to >> > make >> > is what to do about QTP. >> > >> > Choice #1: Convert QTP code to SQL (we use PL/SQL >> > for other apps). As >> > I >> > understand it, performance is the greatest >> advantage >> > of doing this. >> > The >> > "disadvantage" is that we have to rewrite all of >> our >> > QTP code (and >> > document >> > it!) and it would take quite some time, as we have >> > approximately 85 >> > QTP >> > processes of varying degrees of complexity. >> > >> > Choice #2: Continue to use QTP on the 9000. The >> > advantage is that >> > relatively >> > few changes will need to be made to our code and >> the >> > migration/test >> > period >> > can be shortened. The great unknown is >> performance. >> > Is it (nearly) as >> > fast >> > as SQL code? For you HP3000 users, I draw a >> > comparison to what happened >> > to >> > Suprtool. I understand it is not nearly the same >> > tool it was on the >> > HP3000. >> > I haven't been able to find any sort of comparison >> > docs between the MPE >> > and >> > HPUX versions of QTP. >> > >> > I would appreciate both real-world and theoretical >> > thoughts regarding >> > our >> > choices. Please don't call or email me about >> > migration "solutions". >> > Most of >> > those decisions have already been made. Although >> > alternatives to the >> > choices >> > above are welcome... >> > >> > This may have been a duplicate post * my first >> > attempt was rejected >> > when I >> > sent it to the previous listserv address. Sorry. >> > >> > Thanks in advance, >> > >> > >> > `....`....`....`....`.... >> > Pat Shugart >> > Trinity Information Services >> > 34605 Twelve Mile Road >> > Farmington Hills, MI 48331 >> > 248.489.6123 >> > 248.488.9195 (fax) >> > >> > >> > >> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> = >> > = = >> >=== message truncated === >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From StefanT@peerless-clothing.com Thu Jan 13 17:17:24 2005 From: StefanT@peerless-clothing.com (Stefan Thibeault) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:24 -0500 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. Message-ID: Hello, I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) and got the following error: Executing request ONE ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The permanent subfile will be overwritten. File: WDC1015 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) I change this select from SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" to SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Stefan From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Thu Jan 13 17:29:53 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:29:53 -0000 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050113173003.4CD89E000311@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Could it be that qtp is aware that an item cannot be both gt 0 and = 0 at the same time ? Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Thibeault Sent: 13 January 2005 17:17 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Hello, I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) and got the following error: Executing request ONE ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- The permanent subfile will be overwritten. File: WDC1015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) I change this select from SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" to SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Stefan = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Thu Jan 13 17:32:04 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:32:04 -0000 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Message-ID: <20050113173213.AB732E0003AE@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Just saw that the items are different, so nope, must be a bug. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 13 January 2005 17:30 To: 'Stefan Thibeault'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Could it be that qtp is aware that an item cannot be both gt 0 and = 0 at the same time ? Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Thibeault Sent: 13 January 2005 17:17 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Hello, I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) and got the following error: Executing request ONE ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- The permanent subfile will be overwritten. File: WDC1015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) I change this select from SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" to SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Stefan = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Thu Jan 13 17:33:43 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:33:43 -0000 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Message-ID: <20050113173352.9CCC6E000311@blaster.systems.pipex.net> but it could be because you can't have arrays in Oracle or any RDB. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 13 January 2005 17:32 To: 'Stefan Thibeault'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Just saw that the items are different, so nope, must be a bug. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 13 January 2005 17:30 To: 'Stefan Thibeault'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Could it be that qtp is aware that an item cannot be both gt 0 and = 0 at the same time ? Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Thibeault Sent: 13 January 2005 17:17 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Hello, I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) and got the following error: Executing request ONE ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- The permanent subfile will be overwritten. File: WDC1015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) I change this select from SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" to SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Stefan = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com Thu Jan 13 17:35:57 2005 From: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com (Michael Lee) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:35:57 -0800 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41E6B17D.1050906@mclsystemsinc.com> Hi Stefan, I can't say why you're getting the error other than I think it has something to do with QTP being confused by the combination of your array access with brackets and your brackets used to ensure that your IF statement works properly. I would suggest though that you could move the array access to DEFINEd items and use those in your SELECT statement instead. This might help. Good luck. Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. Stefan Thibeault wrote: >Hello, > >I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) >and got the following error: > >Executing request ONE ... >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The permanent subfile will be overwritten. > File: WDC1015 >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. > > >RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA >ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" >Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) > >I change this select from > >SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" > >to > >SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) > >Does anyone have any ideas? > > >Thanks, > >Stefan >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > > From John.Pickering@norbord.com Thu Jan 13 17:42:42 2005 From: John.Pickering@norbord.com (Pickering, John (NORBORD)) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:42:42 -0500 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. Message-ID: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC51202797CBD@TORHEXCH> Stefan Please show us the command you used to run Qtp. I think this message is comming from MPE and not from Powerhouse. Are you using conditional compile words? Regards, JWP -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Thibeault [mailto:StefanT@peerless-clothing.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:17 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. Hello, I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) and got the following error: Executing request ONE ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- The permanent subfile will be overwritten. File: WDC1015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) I change this select from SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" to SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Stefan From John.Pickering@norbord.com Thu Jan 13 17:45:32 2005 From: John.Pickering@norbord.com (Pickering, John (NORBORD)) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:45:32 -0500 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. Message-ID: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC51202797CBE@TORHEXCH> Stefan Now I'm really sure you need to look at how you started Qtp. I can generate your error with the following: :qtp "cc=junk" instead of the correct: :qtp "cc=(junk)" Please check how you're starting Qtp. Regards, JWP -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Thibeault [mailto:StefanT@peerless-clothing.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:17 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. Hello, I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) and got the following error: Executing request ONE ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- The permanent subfile will be overwritten. File: WDC1015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) I change this select from SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" to SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Stefan From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 13 19:44:52 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:44:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: <20050113173003.4CD89E000311@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Message-ID: <20050113194452.39066.qmail@web81305.mail.yahoo.com> Excuse me Joe but I don't see the logic you mention. Each A AND B set refer to different items. Is it anything to do with the array references? Where is the array being set up? Does it contain valid data for each record set? Blue --- Joe Boyle wrote: > Could it be that qtp is aware that an item cannot be > both gt 0 and = 0 at > the same time ? > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is > confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, your access to > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, > distribution, > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any > of the information > contained within it is prohibited and may be > unlawful. Do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system > and notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The > content of this e-mail and any > attachments sent with it may have been altered > without the consent or > knowledge of the author. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Stefan Thibeault > Sent: 13 January 2005 17:17 > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not > enclosed in one of (),{}, [], > or <>. > > Hello, > > I made a change to a select statement in a QTP > (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) > and got the following error: > > Executing request ONE ... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > The permanent subfile will be overwritten. > File: WDC1015 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, > [], or <>. > > > RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL > *ORDBA > ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" > Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) > > I change this select from > > SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" > > to > > SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ > 0) ) > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > Thanks, > > Stefan > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Thu Jan 13 20:05:30 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:05:30 -0000 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: <20050113194452.39066.qmail@web81305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050113200540.0CA30E000239@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Its just that the error message makes references to oracle, and the syntax itemx(n) refers to the nth occurrence of the array named itemx. It might be that the item itemx is part of a ksam file but I am only offering a suggestion :) Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Edis Sent: 13 January 2005 19:45 To: PowerHouse List Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Excuse me Joe but I don't see the logic you mention. Each A AND B set refer to different items. Is it anything to do with the array references? Where is the array being set up? Does it contain valid data for each record set? Blue --- Joe Boyle wrote: > Could it be that qtp is aware that an item cannot be > both gt 0 and = 0 at > the same time ? > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is > confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, your access to > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, > distribution, > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any > of the information > contained within it is prohibited and may be > unlawful. Do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system > and notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The > content of this e-mail and any > attachments sent with it may have been altered > without the consent or > knowledge of the author. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Stefan Thibeault > Sent: 13 January 2005 17:17 > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not > enclosed in one of (),{}, [], > or <>. > > Hello, > > I made a change to a select statement in a QTP > (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) > and got the following error: > > Executing request ONE ... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > The permanent subfile will be overwritten. > File: WDC1015 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, > [], or <>. > > > RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL > *ORDBA > ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" > Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) > > I change this select from > > SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" > > to > > SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ > 0) ) > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > Thanks, > > Stefan > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From John.Pickering@norbord.com Thu Jan 13 20:20:35 2005 From: John.Pickering@norbord.com (Pickering, John (NORBORD)) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:20:35 -0500 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{ }, [], or <>. Message-ID: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC51202797CC5@TORHEXCH> The usual command file to execute Qtp on the HP3000 contains a pointer to the Orakill library regardless of the presence of Orakill on the machine. In MPE parlance an "XL" is an execution time library. That's the mention of Orakill that you're seeing in the snippet of stuff from the original message below. Yes, Orakill was once available on the HP3000 -- but it couldn't compete with the native database so it packed up and went home. But the Cognos-supplied command files still include a reference to the library. > RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL > *ORDBA > ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:06 PM To: 'Robert Edis'; 'PowerHouse List' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Its just that the error message makes references to oracle, and the syntax itemx(n) refers to the nth occurrence of the array named itemx. It might be that the item itemx is part of a ksam file but I am only offering a suggestion :) Regards, Joe. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Thu Jan 13 20:21:00 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:21:00 -0000 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: <20050113200540.0CA30E000239@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Message-ID: <20050113202111.666C2E0002CD@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Sorry blue, I misunderstood your comment. I agree with you that its probably that PH knows that the syntax () is not valid with RDB items, coz you can't have arrays with RDBs Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: 13 January 2005 20:06 To: 'Robert Edis'; 'PowerHouse List' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Its just that the error message makes references to oracle, and the syntax itemx(n) refers to the nth occurrence of the array named itemx. It might be that the item itemx is part of a ksam file but I am only offering a suggestion :) Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Edis Sent: 13 January 2005 19:45 To: PowerHouse List Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Excuse me Joe but I don't see the logic you mention. Each A AND B set refer to different items. Is it anything to do with the array references? Where is the array being set up? Does it contain valid data for each record set? Blue --- Joe Boyle wrote: > Could it be that qtp is aware that an item cannot be > both gt 0 and = 0 at > the same time ? > > Regards, Joe. > > This e-mail and all information contained in it is > confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, your access to > this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, > distribution, > publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any > of the information > contained within it is prohibited and may be > unlawful. Do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system > and notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The > content of this e-mail and any > attachments sent with it may have been altered > without the consent or > knowledge of the author. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf > Of Stefan Thibeault > Sent: 13 January 2005 17:17 > To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not > enclosed in one of (),{}, [], > or <>. > > Hello, > > I made a change to a select statement in a QTP > (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) > and got the following error: > > Executing request ONE ... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > The permanent subfile will be overwritten. > File: WDC1015 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, > [], or <>. > > > RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL > *ORDBA > ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" > Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) > > I change this select from > > SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" > > to > > SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ > 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ > 0) ) > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > Thanks, > > Stefan > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From John.Pickering@norbord.com Thu Jan 13 20:36:44 2005 From: John.Pickering@norbord.com (Pickering, John (NORBORD)) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:36:44 -0500 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{ }, [], or <>. Message-ID: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC51202797CC7@TORHEXCH> Seems like nobody is listening! The correct syntax for specifying "conditional compile words" (remember them anybody?) when you run a PowerHouse component is something like CC=(condcompword1, condcompword2, and3, whatever). Please note the brackets -- well, actually parentheses in this case. But both square brackets "[]" and brace brackets "{}" are also valid syntax. If you leave out the brackets you get a message about leaving out the brackets. Doh! (as Homer would say). It has nothing to do with the select statement and everything to do with the way Qtp was started. Confirmation from Stefan would be appreciated. Regards, JWP -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:21 PM To: 'Robert Edis'; 'PowerHouse List' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Sorry blue, I misunderstood your comment. I agree with you that its probably that PH knows that the syntax () is not valid with RDB items, coz you can't have arrays with RDBs Regards, Joe. From Brett@Kinetix.co.nz Thu Jan 13 23:36:22 2005 From: Brett@Kinetix.co.nz (Brett Greiner (Kinetix)) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:36:22 +1300 Subject: Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks Message-ID: <9D966695054CFA4A8FD712F96673CCFB11F99C@mrcharcoal.Kinetix.internal> Hoping someone may have an electronic copy of the QTP, Quick and Quiz Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks or a way of getting hold of some. Looking forward to hear of the responses. Thanks in advance, Brett. Brett Greiner, Software Developer, Kinetix Group Ltd., New Plymouth New Zealand ph. +64 6 759 1929 fx. +64 6 759 1928 From Martijn.Nabben@fairfaxnz.co.nz Thu Jan 13 23:48:40 2005 From: Martijn.Nabben@fairfaxnz.co.nz (Martijn Nabben (Fairfax)) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:48:40 +1300 Subject: Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks Message-ID: <1D35E6BA101A8E4BA10C50B5D46E4A7C04A40023@inl302.inl.co.nz> What platform/version? Martijn Nabben, Analyst/Programmer, Fairfax NZ Ltd Vax/VMS PH 7.10G -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Brett Greiner (Kinetix) Sent: Friday, 14 January 2005 12:36 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks Hoping someone may have an electronic copy of the QTP, Quick and Quiz Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks or a way of getting hold of some. Looking forward to hear of the responses. Thanks in advance, Brett. Brett Greiner, Software Developer, Kinetix Group Ltd., New Plymouth New Zealand ph. +64 6 759 1929 fx. +64 6 759 1928 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Brett@Kinetix.co.nz Fri Jan 14 01:01:36 2005 From: Brett@Kinetix.co.nz (Brett Greiner (Kinetix)) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:01:36 +1300 Subject: Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks Message-ID: <9D966695054CFA4A8FD712F96673CCFB11F99D@mrcharcoal.Kinetix.internal> The platform is AIX/8.13.D2, if we can not find course material for AIX, then any course material will be suffice. Cheers, Brett. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Martijn Nabben (Fairfax) Sent: Friday, 14 January 2005 12:49 p.m. To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks What platform/version? Martijn Nabben, Analyst/Programmer, Fairfax NZ Ltd Vax/VMS PH 7.10G -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Brett Greiner (Kinetix) Sent: Friday, 14 January 2005 12:36 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks Hoping someone may have an electronic copy of the QTP, Quick and Quiz Powerhouse tutorial with workshop workbooks or a way of getting hold of some. Looking forward to hear of the responses. Thanks in advance, Brett. 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From pfbcs@hotmail.com Fri Jan 14 01:58:54 2005 From: pfbcs@hotmail.com (Peter Bateman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:58:54 -0400 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC51202797CBE@TORHEXCH> Message-ID: Hi Stefan: I have had better luck when I put my constants on the left of a relational operator. So this (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & becomes ( 0 LE LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) AND 0 EQ LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) ) OR & etc Regards, Peter Bateman >-----Original Message----- >From: Stefan Thibeault [mailto:StefanT@peerless-clothing.com] >Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:17 PM >To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), >{}, [], or <>. > > >Hello, > >I made a change to a select statement in a QTP (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) >and got the following error: > >Executing request ONE ... >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- >The permanent subfile will be overwritten. > File: WDC1015 >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- >Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. > > >RUN QTP.CURRENT.COGNOS;INFO=""; XL=" *PHLIBXL *ORDBA >ORACLEXL.PUB.ORACLEM" >Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) > >I change this select from > >SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" > >to > >SELECT IF EMP-STATUS = "AF" AND ( & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(2) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(2) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(3) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(3) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(4) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(4) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(5) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(5) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(6) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(6) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(7) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(7) EQ 0) OR & > (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(8) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(8) EQ 0) ) > >Does anyone have any ideas? > > >Thanks, > >Stefan >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to >powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN� Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Fri Jan 14 08:58:38 2005 From: chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk (Chris Sharman) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:58:38 +0000 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{ }, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: <200501132036277137408@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> References: <200501132036277137408@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> Message-ID: <41E789BE.9010406@ccagroup.co.uk> Pickering, John (NORBORD) wrote: > Seems like nobody is listening! Sure we're listening - but I go home at nights ! > The correct syntax for specifying "conditional compile words" (remember them > anybody?) when you run a PowerHouse component is something like > CC=(condcompword1, condcompword2, and3, whatever). Please note the brackets > -- well, actually parentheses in this case. But both square brackets "[]" > and brace brackets "{}" are also valid syntax. "cc=test" has always worked fine for me (VMS) - the parentheses are only necessary when I have two or more words: cc=(testa,testb) But I've seen problems interpreting conditions (if) before: select if a=0 ; ok select if a(1)=0 ; doesn't work reliably select if 0=a(1) ; ok The left hand side of the comparison term has to be 'simple', in my experience. I'm guessing that this is Stefan's problem, and if he turns round all his comparisons, all will be well. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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I think that myself and blue were clarifying points from earlier emails, even if by this time the points were irrelevant :) My money is now on the 'reverse the order of the comparison' option by Peter (and Chris). I seem to recall finding this to be necessary when a function has been applied to a field/column; its just that its less obvious that the use of subscripts is in fact the application of a function. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Pickering, John (NORBORD) Sent: 13 January 2005 20:37 To: 'Joe Boyle'; 'Robert Edis'; 'PowerHouse List' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Seems like nobody is listening! The correct syntax for specifying "conditional compile words" (remember them anybody?) when you run a PowerHouse component is something like CC=(condcompword1, condcompword2, and3, whatever). Please note the brackets -- well, actually parentheses in this case. But both square brackets "[]" and brace brackets "{}" are also valid syntax. If you leave out the brackets you get a message about leaving out the brackets. Doh! (as Homer would say). It has nothing to do with the select statement and everything to do with the way Qtp was started. Confirmation from Stefan would be appreciated. Regards, JWP -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:21 PM To: 'Robert Edis'; 'PowerHouse List' Subject: RE: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (),{}, [], or <>. Sorry blue, I misunderstood your comment. I agree with you that its probably that PH knows that the syntax () is not valid with RDB items, coz you can't have arrays with RDBs Regards, Joe. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From StefanT@peerless-clothing.com Fri Jan 14 18:46:25 2005 From: StefanT@peerless-clothing.com (Stefan Thibeault) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:46:25 -0500 Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of (), {}, [], or <>. Message-ID: Hello fellow list members, First off, I would like to thank everyone who responded to my email. In my previous email, I did not mention that the program accesses a Turbo Image database. I tried Peter's suggestion and changed (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) GT 0 AND LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) EQ 0) OR & to ( 0 LE LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) AND 0 EQ LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) ) OR & but that did not work and got the same error message. I found a workaround by changing the select and putting an if statement on the subfile I have a subfile statement for each occurrence of the field in the database SUBFILE WDC1015 & IF (LEAVE-DATE-LEFT(1) > 0 AND (LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) = 0 OR LEAVE-DATE-RET(1) > SYSDATE)) & KEEP INCLUDE & The command I use to execute the program is QTP EXEC XDC1015P I did not set any control words and this is the default QTP UDC. Here is the QTP UDC :help qtp User-defined command: QTP INFO="", VERS=CURRENT, AUTO="", CC="()", DICT="", DICTIONARY="", LIST=YES, O WNER="", PROCLOC="", SHIFT=UP, STATISTICS=YES, MODULELOC="", PNUM=0 SETJCW CIERROR 0 IF (NOT BOUND (COG_UDCLVL)) OR (!PNUM = 0) CONTINUE SETPOWERHOUSE !VERS ENDIF IF "!DICT"="" THEN SETVAR PHDICT!PNUM,"!DICTIONARY" ELSE SETVAR PHDICT!PNUM,"!DICT" ENDIF IF CIERROR = 0 THEN CONTINUE PHRUNPROG QTP.!VERS.COGNOS, "!INFO", "!AUTO", "!CC", "![PHDICT!PNUM]", "!LIST" , "!OWNER", "!PROCLOC", FIRST, "!SHIFT", "!STATISTICS", "", "!MODULELOC", !PNUM ENDIF IF (BOUND(PHDICT!PNUM)) THEN DELETEVAR PHDICT!PNUM ENDIF IF !PNUM = 0 RESETPOWERHOUSE ENDIF Thanks Stefan From g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca Sat Jan 15 18:45:23 2005 From: g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca (Gregory Provost) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:45:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: QTP Error - Bracketed options are not enclosed in one of {}, [], or <>. In-Reply-To: <20050115121035.11987.81693.Mailman@sowder.com> Message-ID: <20050115184523.83362.qmail@web51401.mail.yahoo.com> Stefan: If I remember this thread correctly, you haven't included the actual ACCESS statement used to build your record complex. I have a few suggestions for you to try. I noticed you don't explicitly specify the record with which each item is associated in your SELECT statement. Perhaps you only have one record in your ACCESS statement. I would suggest explicitly defining the record (item OF record) in your SELECT if you do in fact have more than one. I always explicitly state the record (and strongly recommend others do the same) even when there is only one record. It makes it easier when subsequent maintenance or enhancements add additional records to the mix. The other thing I would suggest is separating the SELECT into two SELECT record statements if at all possible. Depending on your ACCESS, this would also be more efficient. As it's building the record complex QTP can discard complexes after reading from the first record without reading related records. The SELECT statement alone is applied only after QTP has built the entire record complex from the component records. You also might try running a similar stripped down version of code in QUIZ with the original SELECT and an AND SELECT statement to append the additional conditions. I've used this in the past to try to isolate my own bugs from Powerhouse bugs. I hope this is helpful. - Greg. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From brian_matthews_bmw@hotmail.com Tue Jan 18 04:25:49 2005 From: brian_matthews_bmw@hotmail.com (brian_matthewsbrian matthews) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:25:49 +0000 Subject: can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. Message-ID: Hi all, can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. I want to use 'run command' syntax from quick to first do some file processing followed by executing a quiz file to run immediately. As far as I can see the stream command runs as a seperate process ( like spawn or submit), but I want the quick screen to wait for the command file to complete execution before returning quick screen processing to the user. many thanks in advance. Bri, _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo From Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com Tue Jan 18 12:20:57 2005 From: Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com (Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:20:57 -0000 Subject: MPE/VMS command @SCRIPT Message-ID: <6C3B8000CBA8B149B952AB4654465B5EBAE3CF@rbiohhex01.qhs.rbi.gni> This message is in MIME format. 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If you want to run a job from qdesign on MPE here is a wa= y to do it:

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file JOBFIL designer open 2 append exclusive need all; (= contain item JF-LINE cha*80)

procedure designer Doh
close JOBFIL
run command "purge jobfil" on error con= tinue nowarn
run command "PURGE JOBFIL,TEMP" on erro= r continue nowarn
run command "BUILD JOBFIL;rec=3D-80,,f,ascii= ;temp"

let JF-LINE =3D "!JOB " + W-JOBNAVN + &q= uot;," + Logonid + "," &
&n= bsp; + truncate(Signongroup) + ";O= UTCLASS=3DLP,8"
put jobfil reset
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put JOBFIL reset
let JF-LINE =3D "! your commands....."<= /FONT>
put JOBFIL reset
let JF-LINE =3D "!eoj"
put JOBFIL reset
close JOBFIL
info =3D "# " now
run command "stream jobfil"
return
end

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD6E.C0979AB8-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01C4FD6E.C0979AB8 Content-Type: text/plain; name="DWDTL.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DWDTL.txt" ;DWDTL.QZS ;PROGRAM CREATED TO EXPORT ALL CLAIMS DETAIL FOR PROGRESS DATABASE ACCESS DTL =20 CHOOSE CASE_NUM "0000001" SELECT IF CERT_NUM =3D "0001" AND & CLMT_NUM =3D "1" ;SELECT IF SYS_YYYYMMDD =3D "20041208" =20 DEFINE INITDT CHAR*8 =3D INITIAL_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + INITIAL_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + INITIAL_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF INITIAL_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF INITIAL_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE FINALDT CHAR*8 =3D FINAL_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + FINAL_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + FINAL_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF FINAL_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF FINAL_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE RECDT CHAR*8 =3D RECEIVE_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + RECEIVE_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + RECEIVE_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF RECEIVE_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF RECEIVE_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE PROCDT CHAR*8 =3D PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + PROC_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + PROC_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE PRINTDT CHAR*8 =3D PRINT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + PRINT_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + PRINT_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF PRINT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF PRINT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE ORIGDT CHAR*8 =3D ORIG_COMP_PRINT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + ORIG_COMP_PRINT_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + ORIG_COMP_PRINT_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF ORIG_COMP_PRINT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF ORIG_COMP_PRINT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE PROCDT2 CHAR*8 =3D VOID_FROM_PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + VOID_FROM_PROC_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + VOID_FROM_PROC_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF VOID_FROM_PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF VOID_FROM_PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE PROCDT3 CHAR*8 =3D VOID_TO_PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + VOID_TO_PROC_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + VOID_TO_PROC_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF VOID_TO_PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF VOID_TO_PROC_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE PRECRTDT CHAR*8 =3D PRE_CERT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + PRE_CERT_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + PRE_CERT_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF PRE_CERT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF PRE_CERT_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE SYSDT CHAR*8 =3D SYS_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + SYS_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + SYS_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF SYS_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF SYS_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " DEFINE SYSDT2 CHAR*8 =3D VOID_SYS_YYYYMMDD [5:2] + "/" & + VOID_SYS_YYYYMMDD [7:2] + "/" & + VOID_SYS_YYYYMMDD [3:2] & IF VOID_SYS_YYYYMMDD [5:2] NE " " & ELSE "?" IF VOID_SYS_YYYYMMDD [5:2] EQ " " =20 DEFINE ANAMT CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(ANESTHESIA_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(ANESTHESIA_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE ANUNT CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(ANESTHESIA_UNITS/100)+"."+ & ASCII(ANESTHESIA_UNITS,12)[11:2] DEFINE ASSGN CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(ASSIGNED /100)+"."+ & ASCII(ASSIGNED,12)[11:2] DEFINE BASPAY CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(BASIC_PAYABLE /100)+"."+ & ASCII(BASIC_PAYABLE,12)[11:2] DEFINE CHRGE CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(CHARGE /100)+"."+ & ASCII(CHARGE,12)[11:2] DEFINE COBEL CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(COB_ELIGIBLE_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(COB_ELIGIBLE_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE DEDUC CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(DED/100)+"."+ & ASCII(DED,12)[11:2] DEFINE FEEAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(FEE_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(FEE_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE FEEIN CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(FEE_INEL_INEL/100)+"."+ & ASCII(FEE_INEL_INEL,12)[11:2] DEFINE HUNAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(HUNDRED_PCT_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(HUNDRED_PCT_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE INE CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(INEL /100)+"."+ & ASCII(INEL,12)[11:2] DEFINE INEAM1 CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_1/100)+"."+ & ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_1,12)[11:2] DEFINE INEAM2 CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_2/100)+"."+ & ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_2,12)[11:2] DEFINE INEAM3 CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_3/100)+"."+ & ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_3,12)[11:2] DEFINE INEAM4 CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_4/100)+"."+ & ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_4,12)[11:2] DEFINE INEAM5 CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_5/100)+"."+ & ASCII(INEL_AMTS_INEL_5,12)[11:2] DEFINE MAJPY CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(MAJOR_MEDICAL_PAYABLE/100)+"."+ & ASCII(MAJOR_MEDICAL_PAYABLE,12)[11:2] DEFINE NRMPY CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(NORMAL_PAID_BY_US/100)+"."+ & ASCII(NORMAL_PAID_BY_US,12)[11:2] DEFINE ORGCH CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(ORIGINAL_CHARGE/100)+"."+ & ASCII(ORIGINAL_CHARGE,12)[11:2] DEFINE PDINS CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(PAID_BY_INSURANCE/100)+"."+ & ASCII(PAID_BY_INSURANCE,12)[11:2] DEFINE PDUS CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(PAID_BY_US/100)+"."+ & ASCII(PAID_BY_US,12)[11:2] DEFINE PDCAR CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(PAID_OTHER_CARRIER/100)+"."+ & ASCII(PAID_OTHER_CARRIER,12)[11:2] DEFINE PENAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(PENALTY_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(PENALTY_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE PCHDED CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(PER_CHARGE_DEDUCT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(PER_CHARGE_DEDUCT,12)[11:2] DEFINE PMTAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(PROMPT_PAY_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(PROMPT_PAY_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE RCAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(R_AND_C_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(R_AND_C_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE RMRTE CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(ROOM_RATE/100)+"."+ & ASCII(ROOM_RATE,12)[11:2] DEFINE RXFEE CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(RX_INFO_ADMIN_FEE_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(RX_INFO_ADMIN_FEE_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE RXDSP CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(RX_INFO_DISPENSE_FEE_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(RX_INFO_DISPENSE_FEE_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE RXING CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(RX_INFO_INGREDIENT_COST_AMT /100)+"."+ = & ASCII(RX_INFO_INGREDIENT_COST_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE RXPST CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(RX_INFO_POSTAGE_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(RX_INFO_POSTAGE_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE RXTAX CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(RX_INFO_SALES_TAX_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(RX_INFO_SALES_TAX_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE SMRMR CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(SEMI_PRIVATE_ROOM_RATE/100)+"."+ & ASCII(SEMI_PRIVATE_ROOM_RATE,12)[11:2] DEFINE SYSAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(SYSTEM_CALC_FEE_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(SYSTEM_CALC_FEE_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE SYSPY CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(SYSTEM_CALC_PROMPT_PAY_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(SYSTEM_CALC_PROMPT_PAY_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE SYSRAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(SYSTEM_REGISTERED_FEE_AMT/100)+"."+ & ASCII(SYSTEM_REGISTERED_FEE_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE SYSRIN CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(SYSTEM_REGISTERED_INEL/100)+"."+ & ASCII(SYSTEM_REGISTERED_INEL,12)[11:2] DEFINE SYSPAM CHAR*13 =3D ASCII(SYSTEM_REGISTERED_PRO_PAY_AMT = /100)+"."+ & ASCII(SYSTEM_REGISTERED_PRO_PAY_AMT,12)[11:2] DEFINE SYSDT3 DATE =3D NCONVERT(SYS_YYYYMMDD) DEFINE RUNDT DATE =3D SYSDATE DEFINE CM CHAR*1 =3D "," DEFINE AQUOTE CHAR*1 =3D '"' DEFINE BQUOTE CHAR*1 =3D '|' DEFINE QUOTE CHAR*1 =3D '|' DEFINE SPC CHAR*1 =3D " " =20 ;SELECT RECORDS WHERE SYSDATE =3D THE CURRENT DAY'S DATE ;SELECT IF SYSDT3 =3D RUNDT ;SELECT IF SYS_YYYYMMDD GE "20041101" AND & ; SYS_YYYYMMDD LE "20041121" =20 SET SUBFILE NAME DKF1:[DW]DWDTL PORTABLE KEEP =20 SORT & ON CHARGE_SEQ_NUM & ON DOCUMENT_NUM & ON CLAIM_NUM =20 REPORT SUMMARY & AGG_SEQ_CONTRACT_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & AGG_SEQ_CONTRACT_YYYYMM BQUOTE & ANAMT BQUOTE & ANESTHESIA_MINUTES BQUOTE & ANUNT BQUOTE & AREA BQUOTE & ASSGN BQUOTE & BASPAY BQUOTE & BILL_ENTRY_NUM BQUOTE & BILL_REFERENCE_NUM BQUOTE & CAA_TABLE BQUOTE & CALC_CODE BQUOTE & CASE_NUM BQUOTE & CERT_NUM BQUOTE & CHRGE BQUOTE & CHARGE_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & CHARGE_TYPE BQUOTE & CLAIM_NUM BQUOTE & CLAIM_POLICY_NUM BQUOTE & CLMT_NUM BQUOTE & COBEL BQUOTE & COB_PAID_BY_US BQUOTE & CONTRACT_AREA_TABLE BQUOTE & CONTRACT_FEE_MESS_CODE BQUOTE & CONTRACT_TABLE BQUOTE & DEDUC BQUOTE & DESCRIPTION_15 BQUOTE & DLS_TABLE BQUOTE & DOCUMENT_NUM BQUOTE & DOCUMENT_STATUS BQUOTE & FEEAM BQUOTE & FEEIN BQUOTE & FEE_INEL_INEL_CODE BQUOTE & FEE_TABLE BQUOTE & FINALDT BQUOTE & FREQ_LINK_CALC_CODE BQUOTE & HUNAM BQUOTE & HUNDRED_PCT_CODE BQUOTE & ICD_CODE BQUOTE & INE BQUOTE & INEAM1 BQUOTE & INEAM2 BQUOTE & INEAM3 BQUOTE & INEAM4 BQUOTE & INEAM5 BQUOTE & INEL_AMTS_INEL_CODE_1 BQUOTE & INEL_AMTS_INEL_CODE_2 BQUOTE & INEL_AMTS_INEL_CODE_3 BQUOTE & INEL_AMTS_INEL_CODE_4 BQUOTE & INEL_AMTS_INEL_CODE_5 BQUOTE & INELIGIBLE_CODE BQUOTE & INITDT BQUOTE & MAJPY BQUOTE & MAJOR_MEDICAL_PCT BQUOTE & NRMPY BQUOTE & NUM_UNITS BQUOTE & ORIGDT BQUOTE & ORGCH BQUOTE & ORIGINAL_PROCEDURE_CODE BQUOTE & PDINS BQUOTE & PDUS BQUOTE & PDCAR BQUOTE & PATIENT_ID BQUOTE & PDCR_CHARGE_TYPE BQUOTE & PDCR_TABLE BQUOTE & PENAM BQUOTE & PENALTY_MESS_CODE BQUOTE & PCHDED BQUOTE & PLAN_NUM BQUOTE & POS BQUOTE & PRECRTDT BQUOTE & PRIMARY_SUB_TIN_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & PRIMARY_TIN_NUM BQUOTE & PRINTDT BQUOTE & PROCEDURE_CODE_11 BQUOTE & PROCDT BQUOTE & PROCESSOR_CODE BQUOTE & PROCEDURE_MODIFIER BQUOTE & PROC_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & PROCEDURE_TYPE BQUOTE & PMTAM BQUOTE & RCAM BQUOTE & R_AND_C_PCT BQUOTE & R_AND_C_TABLE BQUOTE & RECDT BQUOTE & RMRTE BQUOTE & RX_INFO_RX_NUM BQUOTE & RXFEE BQUOTE & RX_INFO_DAYS_SUPPLY BQUOTE & RX_INFO_DISPENSE_AS_WRITTEN BQUOTE & RXDSP BQUOTE & RX_INFO_DRUG_CONFLICT_CODE BQUOTE & RX_INFO_RX_GENERIC_FLAG BQUOTE & RXING BQUOTE & RX_INFO_NEW_OR_REFILL BQUOTE & RX_INFO_NUM_UNITS BQUOTE & RXPST BQUOTE & RX_INFO_REFILLS_AUTHORIZED BQUOTE & RXTAX BQUOTE & RX_INFO_THERAPEUTIC_CLASS BQUOTE & SMRMR BQUOTE & SPECIAL BQUOTE & SPEC_SEQ_CONTRACT_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & SPEC_SEQ_CONTRACT_YYYYMM BQUOTE & STATUS BQUOTE & STATUS_REASON_CODE BQUOTE & SUB_TIN_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & SYSAM BQUOTE & SYSPY BQUOTE & SYS_CALC_PROMPT_PAY_PCT BQUOTE & SYSDT BQUOTE & SYS_REG_CNT_FEE_MESS_CODE BQUOTE & SYS_REG_2_CONTRACT_TABLE BQUOTE & SYSRAM BQUOTE & SYSRIN BQUOTE & SYSTEM_REGISTERED_INEL_CODE BQUOTE & SYSPAM BQUOTE & SYSTEM_REGISTERED_PRO_PAY_PCT BQUOTE & TIN_NUM BQUOTE & UM_NUM BQUOTE & UM_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & UPDATE_AGGREGATE_FLAG BQUOTE & UPDATE_SPECIFIC_FLAG BQUOTE & VOID_FROM_CHARGE_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & PROCDT2 BQUOTE & VOID_FROM_PROC_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & VOID_PROCESSOR_CODE BQUOTE & SYSDT2 BQUOTE & VOID_TO_CHARGE_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE & PROCDT3 BQUOTE & VOID_TO_PROC_SEQ_NUM BQUOTE SKIP =20 ;SET REPORT DEVICE DISC NAME DWDTL SET REPORT SPACING 0 SET REPORT NOLIMIT SET REPORT NOFORMFEED SET PAGE LENGTH 0 SET NOSPACE SET NOBLANK SET NOHEAD SET NOWAIT SET NODUPLICATES set page width 255 GO =20 ;OUTPUT LAST EXTRACT DATE =20 ACC *DKF1:[DW]DWDTL =20 DEFINE TODAY DATE =3D SYSDATE DEFINE FN CHAR*6 =3D "DTLFIL" DEFINE FILEHLD CHAR*8 =3D ASCII(TODAY,8) DEFINE FILEDT CHAR*8 =3D FILEHLD [5:2] + "/" & + FILEHLD [7:2] + "/" & + FILEHLD [3:2] DEF KOUNT NUM*10 =3D 1 DEF D_SORT =3D 1 DEF SPC CHAR*1 =3D " " =20 SORTED ON D_SORT =20 SET SUBFILE NAME DKF1:[DW]CREATEDT AT D_SORT APPEND PORTABLE KEEP =20 REPORT SUMMARY & FN SPC & FILEDT SPC & KOUNT SUBTOTAL SPC SKIP =20 ;SET REPORT DEVICE DISC NAME CREATEDT SET REPORT SPACING 0 SET REPORT NOFORMFEED SET PAGE LENGTH 0 SET NOSPACE SET NOBLANK SET NOHEAD SET NOWAIT SET NOVERIFY DELETE SET DUPLICATES SET REPORT NOLIMIT SET PAGE WIDTH 100 GO ------_=_NextPart_000_01C4FD6E.C0979AB8-- From dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Tue Jan 18 15:18:56 2005 From: dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com (David Morrison - Corporate) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:18:56 -0800 Subject: count Message-ID: <7F881AB8EE5D97418624950B85E10543026773@srvrcpexchange.mcb_corp.mcbrideelectric.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD71.06E43A25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kristina, =20 The last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET = SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary = table once. =20 Thanks. =20 David Morrison McBride Electric -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:03 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: count Hi, =20 Could someone take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me what = I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count I have extracted in the = first part at the bottom of the extract. Although my file has 55 records = in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I am doing this for all my = other files and it works fine. What am I missing? =20 OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz V7.10.G4. =20 =20 Kristina Carlton Senior Programmer/Analyst The JI Companies Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD71.06E43A25 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kristina,

The=20 last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET = SUBFILE)=20 at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary table=20 once.

Thanks.

David=20 Morrison

McBride Electric

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com = [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On=20 Behalf Of Kristina Carlton
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, = 2005 7:03=20 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'
Subject:=20 count

Hi,

Could someone take a look at the = attached=20 Quiz extract and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the = count I=20 have extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. = Although my=20 file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I am = doing this=20 for all my other files and it works fine. What am I=20 missing?

OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz = V7.10.G4.

Kristina=20 Carlton

Senior=20 Programmer/Analyst

The JI=20 Companies

Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com<= /SPAN>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD71.06E43A25-- From oh@scanconsult.dk Tue Jan 18 15:45:18 2005 From: oh@scanconsult.dk (Ole Hansen, ScanConsult) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:45:18 +0100 Subject: can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007801c4fd74$b6837a40$0a0b10ac@scanconsult02.bogus> Hi Brian, You are right, the stream command starts a separate process, and the 'run command' syntax is what you want. Here is a slightly edited listing of a designer procedure which we use to have the report print while the screen waits for it to complete. RRJO000M er is defined in the dictionary as Organization Direct and contains only one element, RRS-JOBLINE Char*72. Please note the use of CMDLINE/RUN COMMAND to set up a file equation. If you need to set up several environment variables prior to running the report, use RRJO000M to assemble a command file and do a RUN COMMAND RRJO000M etc. procedure designer PRTList begin close rrjo000m run command "purge rrjo000m,temp" nowarn run command "build rrjo000m;rec=-72,,f,ascii;disc=3;temp" let rrs-jobline = '' put rrjo000m reset let rrs-jobline = '' put rrjo000m reset let rrs-jobline = '' put rrjo000m reset close rrjo000m let cmdline = "file phprint;dev=317,7,1;cctl;spsave" run command cmdline nowarn on error continue inform = "Printing list - please wait...." now run command 'quiz auto=quiz0015.prog < rrjo000m > wastebin' on error terminate end HTH. Mange hilsner / With kind regards Ole Hansen =========================================================== E-mail: oh@scanconsult.dk Cell Phone: +45 4040 1150 =========================================================== ScanConsult IT-Partners ApS Voice : +45 8738 7474 Jegstrupvej 96A Fax : +45 8738 7475 DK-8361 Hasselager Support : support@scanconsult.dk Denmark Sales : sales@scanconsult.dk http://www.scanconsult.dk = ParaSuite : A Suite of Air Cargo Handling solutions = = ParaSafe : A Suite of IT-Security solutions = = Partners : Hewlett-Packard, Cognos, Microsoft and more = -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of brian_matthewsbrian matthews Sent: 18. januar 2005 05:26 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. Hi all, can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. I want to use 'run command' syntax from quick to first do some file processing followed by executing a quiz file to run immediately. As far as I can see the stream command runs as a seperate process ( like spawn or submit), but I want the quick screen to wait for the command file to complete execution before returning quick screen processing to the user. many thanks in advance. Bri, _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From mkjohns60@bellsouth.net Tue Jan 18 16:48:02 2005 From: mkjohns60@bellsouth.net (mkjohns60@bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:48:02 -0500 Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area Message-ID: <20050118164802.QTPI2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Does anyone know of any PH user groups in the Atlanta area. Thank you for any assistance From Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com Tue Jan 18 16:48:12 2005 From: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com (Michael Lee) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:48:12 -0800 Subject: count In-Reply-To: <7F881AB8EE5D97418624950B85E10543026773@srvrcpexchange.mcb_corp.mcbrideelectric.com> References: <7F881AB8EE5D97418624950B85E10543026773@srvrcpexchange.mcb_corp.mcbrideelectric.com> Message-ID: <41ED3DCC.8070500@mclsystemsinc.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040907060100030602090707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kristina, I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should have '55' in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could try adding NORESET after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows... Regards, Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. David Morrison - Corporate wrote: > Kristina, > > The last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET > SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary > table once. > > Thanks. > > David Morrison > McBride Electric > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:03 AM > To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' > Subject: count > > Hi, > > > > Could someone take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me > what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count I have > extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. Although > my file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I > am doing this for all my other files and it works fine. What am I > missing? > > > > OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz V7.10.G4. > > > > > > Kristina Carlton > > Senior Programmer/Analyst > > The JI Companies > > Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com > > > --------------040907060100030602090707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kristina,

I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should have '55' in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could try adding NORESET after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows...

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

David Morrison - Corporate wrote:

Kristina,

The last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary table once.

Thanks.

David Morrison

McBride Electric

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:03 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'
Subject: count

Hi,

Could someone take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count I have extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. Although my file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I am doing this for all my other files and it works fine. What am I missing?

OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz V7.10.G4.

Kristina Carlton

Senior Programmer/Analyst

The JI Companies

Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com

--------------040907060100030602090707-- From Erik.Hurworth@cognos.com Tue Jan 18 16:59:50 2005 From: Erik.Hurworth@cognos.com (Hurworth, Erik) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:59:50 -0000 Subject: count Message-ID: <7D10775889AE184A8BED5827BE0D16E10B0C607C@SBRAEMAIL1.ent.ad.cognos.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD7F.1F65F9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 You DO need NORESET otherwise the SUBTOTAL will automatically reset in accordance with the AT option on the SUBFILE statement, =20 Regards =20 Erik A. Hurworth Customer Support Cognos Ltd. =20 ________________________________ From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee Sent: 18 January 2005 16:48 To: David Morrison - Corporate Cc: Kristina Carlton; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: Re: count =20 Hi Kristina, I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should have '55' in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could try adding NORESET after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows... Regards, Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. David Morrison - Corporate wrote: Kristina, =20 The last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary table once. =20 Thanks. =20 David Morrison McBride Electric -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:03 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: count Hi, =20 Could someone take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count I have extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. Although my file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I am doing this for all my other files and it works fine. What am I missing? =20 OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz V7.10.G4. =20 =20 Kristina Carlton Senior Programmer/Analyst The JI Companies Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com =20 =20 This message may contain privileged and/or confidential = information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the = intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; = do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and = notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank You. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD7F.1F65F9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = all,

You DO need NORESET otherwise the = SUBTOTAL will automatically reset in accordance with the AT = option

on the SUBFILE = statement,

Regards

Erik A. = Hurworth

Customer = Support

Cognos = Ltd.

From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee
Sent: 18 January 2005 = 16:48
To: David Morrison - = Corporate
Cc: Kristina Carlton; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Re: = count

Hi Kristina,

I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should have '55' = in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could try adding NORESET = after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows...

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

David Morrison - Corporate wrote:

Kristina,

The last step defines D_SORT as a = constant 1. So, if you output (SET SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to = output to your Report Summary table once.

Thanks.

David Morrison

McBride Electric

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowd= er.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lis= ts.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton
Sent: Tuesday, January = 18, 2005 7:03 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'<= br> Subject: = count

Hi,

Could someone = take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am = trying to get the count I have extracted in the first part at the bottom of the = extract. Although my file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each = time. I am doing this for all my other files and it works fine. What am I = missing?

OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz = V7.10.G4.

Kristina = Carlton

Senior = Programmer/Analyst

The JI = Companies

Kristina.Carlton@JICompa= nies.com

= This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If = you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended = recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not = open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify = the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank You.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD7F.1F65F9C0-- From Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com Tue Jan 18 16:59:17 2005 From: Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com (Kristina Carlton) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:59:17 -0600 Subject: count Message-ID: <157670322ACDBB4D82690A2A917E6E1B04676A2C@jiexch01.jicompanies.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD7F.0C2B8988 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you - I actually figured it out. I had an old .SF out there, which my count was accessing. The newly created file was actually a .PS. I just needed to clean up the drive. Kristina Carlton Senior Programmer/Analyst The JI Companies Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Lee [mailto:Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:48 AM To: David Morrison - Corporate Cc: Kristina Carlton; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: Re: count Hi Kristina, I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should have '55' in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could try adding NORESET after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows... Regards, Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. David Morrison - Corporate wrote: Kristina, The last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary table once. Thanks. David Morrison McBride Electric -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [ mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com ]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:03 AM To: ' powerh-l@lists.sowder.com ' Subject: count Hi, Could someone take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count I have extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. Although my file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I am doing this for all my other files and it works fine. What am I missing? OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz V7.10.G4. Kristina Carlton Senior Programmer/Analyst The JI Companies Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD7F.0C2B8988 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you – I actually figured it out. I had an old .SF = out there, which my count was accessing. The newly created file was actually a = .PS. I just needed to clean up the drive.

<= span class=3DEmailStyle20>Kristina = Carlton

Senior = Programmer/Analyst

The JI Companies

Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com=

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lee [mailto:Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January = 18, 2005 10:48 AM
To: David Morrison - = Corporate
Cc: Kristina Carlton; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Re: = count

Hi Kristina,

I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' = file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should have = '55' in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could try adding NORESET = after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows...

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

David Morrison - Corporate wrote:

Kristina,

The last step = defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET SUBFILE) at = D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary table = once.

Thanks.

David = Morrison

McBride = Electric

-----Original = Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sow= der.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@li= sts.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton
Sent: Tuesday, January = 18, 2005 7:03 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'=
Subject: = count

Hi,

<= /o:p>

Could someone take a look at the attached = Quiz extract and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count = I have extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. Although my = file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I am doing this = for all my other files and it works fine. What am I = missing?

<= /p>

OpenVMS v7.3-2 = and Quiz V7.10.G4.

<= /o:p>

Kristina = Carlton

Senior = Programmer/Analyst

The JI = Companies

Kristina.Carlton@JIComp= anies.com

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD7F.0C2B8988-- From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Tue Jan 18 17:00:52 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:00:52 -0000 Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area In-Reply-To: <20050118164802.QTPI2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20050118170134.D4B87E0000D9@blaster.systems.pipex.net> I had always assumed that this list is all there is ? Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of mkjohns60@bellsouth.net Sent: 18 January 2005 16:48 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area Does anyone know of any PH user groups in the Atlanta area. Thank you for any assistance = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com Tue Jan 18 17:03:24 2005 From: Michael.Lee@mclsystemsinc.com (Michael Lee) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:03:24 -0800 Subject: count In-Reply-To: <7D10775889AE184A8BED5827BE0D16E10B0C607C@SBRAEMAIL1.ent.ad.cognos.com> References: <7D10775889AE184A8BED5827BE0D16E10B0C607C@SBRAEMAIL1.ent.ad.cognos.com> Message-ID: <41ED415C.3090206@mclsystemsinc.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070905070807080202040009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are right Eric, but in Kristina's case the program is sorting on a value that is always '1' and therefore she should not need NORESET. She seems to have found the problem though and all is well. Regards, Michael Lee MCL Systems Inc. Hurworth, Erik wrote: > Hi all, > > > > You DO need NORESET otherwise the SUBTOTAL will automatically reset in > accordance with the AT option > > on the SUBFILE statement, > > > > Regards > > > > Erik A. Hurworth > > Customer Support > > Cognos Ltd. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee > Sent: 18 January 2005 16:48 > To: David Morrison - Corporate > Cc: Kristina Carlton; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subject: Re: count > > > > Hi Kristina, > > I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' > file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should > have '55' in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could > try adding NORESET after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that > does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows... > > > Regards, > > > Michael Lee > MCL Systems Inc. > > David Morrison - Corporate wrote: > > Kristina, > > > > The last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET > SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary > table once. > > > > Thanks. > > > > David Morrison > > McBride Electric > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:03 AM > To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com ' > Subject: count > > Hi, > > > > Could someone take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me > what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count I have > extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. Although > my file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I > am doing this for all my other files and it works fine. What am I > missing? > > > > OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz V7.10.G4. > > > > > > Kristina Carlton > > Senior Programmer/Analyst > > The JI Companies > > Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com > > > > > > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the > intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute > it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your > system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. > Thank You. > > > > > > --------------070905070807080202040009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are right Eric, but in Kristina's case the program is sorting on a value that is always '1' and therefore she should not need NORESET. She seems to have found the problem though and all is well.

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

Hurworth, Erik wrote:

Hi all,

You DO need NORESET otherwise the SUBTOTAL will automatically reset in accordance with the AT option

on the SUBFILE statement,

Regards

Erik A. Hurworth

Customer Support

Cognos Ltd.

From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lee
Sent: 18 January 2005 16:48
To: David Morrison - Corporate
Cc: Kristina Carlton; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Re: count

Hi Kristina,

I think you do only want one record to be written to the 'CREATEDT' file though. If the file DWDTL has 55 records then the KOUNT should have '55' in it. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort. Perhaps you could try adding NORESET after the "KOUNT SUBTOTAL NORESET" and see if that does the trick. You shouldn't have to but one never knows...

Regards,

Michael Lee
MCL Systems Inc.

David Morrison - Corporate wrote:

Kristina,

The last step defines D_SORT as a constant 1. So, if you output (SET SUBFILE) at D_SORT, you're only going to output to your Report Summary table once.

Thanks.

David Morrison

McBride Electric

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Kristina Carlton
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:03 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'
Subject: count

Hi,

Could someone take a look at the attached Quiz extract and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to get the count I have extracted in the first part at the bottom of the extract. Although my file has 55 records in it, or more, the count is 1 each time. I am doing this for all my other files and it works fine. What am I missing?

OpenVMS v7.3-2 and Quiz V7.10.G4.

Kristina Carlton

Senior Programmer/Analyst

The JI Companies

Kristina.Carlton@JICompanies.com

This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank You.

--------------070905070807080202040009-- From John.Pickering@norbord.com Tue Jan 18 17:11:17 2005 From: John.Pickering@norbord.com (Pickering, John (NORBORD)) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:11:17 -0500 Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area Message-ID: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC51202797CDD@TORHEXCH> >Does anyone know of any PH user groups in the Atlanta area. For that matter, are there any still in existence anywhere?? From brian_matthews_bmw@hotmail.com Wed Jan 19 01:37:04 2005 From: brian_matthews_bmw@hotmail.com (brian_matthewsbrian matthews) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:37:04 +0000 Subject: can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thank you all, >From: "brian_matthewsbrian matthews" >To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subject: can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. >Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:25:49 +0000 > >Hi all, > >can anyone tell me the Mpe equivalent of vms command @srript.com. I want to >use 'run command' syntax from quick to first do some file processing >followed by executing a quiz file to run immediately. > >As far as I can see the stream command runs as a seperate process ( like >spawn or submit), but I want the quick screen to wait for the command file >to complete execution before returning quick screen processing to the user. > >many thanks in advance. > >Bri, > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself with cool new emoticons >http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to >powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gavin.lloyd@fmglobal.com Wed Jan 19 14:08:20 2005 From: gavin.lloyd@fmglobal.com (Lloyd, Gavin) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:08:20 -0000 Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area Message-ID: We are a group of users in the Windsor area. We have frequent technical discussions about the various modules of Powerhouse in an informal Public House type venue. The benefits of the software, including such items as speed of development, are often a subject of discussion. Don't think this will help but I have been told that it is good to 'let off steam' every now and then because it leads to less 'episodes'!!! Regards, Gavin. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Pickering, John (NORBORD) Sent: 18 January 2005 17:11 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: looking for User groups in Atlanta area >Does anyone know of any PH user groups in the Atlanta area. For that matter, are there any still in existence anywhere?? From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 19 14:46:53 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:46:53 -0000 Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050119144658.39A30E0004C9@blaster.systems.pipex.net> I can't help wondering how many countries in the world have a town/city named Windsor :) Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Gavin Sent: 19 January 2005 14:08 To: Pickering, John (NORBORD); powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: looking for User groups in Atlanta area We are a group of users in the Windsor area. We have frequent technical discussions about the various modules of Powerhouse in an informal Public House type venue. The benefits of the software, including such items as speed of development, are often a subject of discussion. Don't think this will help but I have been told that it is good to 'let off steam' every now and then because it leads to less 'episodes'!!! Regards, Gavin. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Pickering, John (NORBORD) Sent: 18 January 2005 17:11 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: looking for User groups in Atlanta area >Does anyone know of any PH user groups in the Atlanta area. For that matter, are there any still in existence anywhere?? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From guy.werry@hbms.ca Wed Jan 19 15:06:07 2005 From: guy.werry@hbms.ca (Guy Werry) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:06:07 -0600 Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area Message-ID: Try living in a place named "Flin Flon"! I have had more than one person look at me askance when I've had to give them my place of residence. The only saving grace is that you can go almost anywhere and find someone who used to live here. Unfortunately, I don't know of any user groups ... we've always been too far away to get involved. You may well be able to use the list for much of what you need ... we've got a real good cross-section of platforms, versions, not to mention the depth of experience! Guy L. Werry Senior Systems Analyst Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:47 AM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: looking for User groups in Atlanta area I can't help wondering how many countries in the world have a town/city named Windsor :) Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Gavin Sent: 19 January 2005 14:08 To: Pickering, John (NORBORD); powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: looking for User groups in Atlanta area We are a group of users in the Windsor area. We have frequent technical discussions about the various modules of Powerhouse in an informal Public House type venue. The benefits of the software, including such items as speed of development, are often a subject of discussion. Don't think this will help but I have been told that it is good to 'let off steam' every now and then because it leads to less 'episodes'!!! Regards, Gavin. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Pickering, John (NORBORD) Sent: 18 January 2005 17:11 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: looking for User groups in Atlanta area >Does anyone know of any PH user groups in the Atlanta area. For that matter, are there any still in existence anywhere?? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From macljohn@isu.edu Wed Jan 19 15:51:37 2005 From: macljohn@isu.edu (John MacLerran) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:51:37 -0700 Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Message-ID: <41EE8209.8080203@isu.edu> Howdy List-ers! We are in the wonderful, glorious, breathtaking process of migrating from MPE to unix. One thing (of many) that is raising some questions is how best to handle PowerHouse in batch on unix (HP-UX specifically). Does anyone have some 'best practice' tips? A couple of the most pressing issues are 'inline' code and prompting. By inline code, I mean something like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim 42 set rep dev printer go exit !eoj I know this gives unix fits, because of the way it handles stdin. My understanding of the best way to handle the above would be to break the quiz code out into another file, then do a quiz auto=yadayada... My question is "is that _really_ the best way, or am I overlooking something?" I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have a script (MPE, mpex, qedit, sh, or Perl) that will parse a job and attempt to break it into separate files in preparation for changing the jobs to use the auto= notation? By prompting, I mean this: we use streamx to prompt for user input at job submission time. The above quiz could look like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim ?enter report limit? set rep dev printer go exit !eoj We also do more complex prompting, where we substitute the variables in via the {} notation in streamx, but the concept is similar. Can PowerHouse even prompt in batch on unix? Would it be better to re-code the jobs to use system variables? Can items like the report limit above even be defined that way? I'd also be curious to find out which batch job 'handlers' are being used by other PowerHouse shops, and which, if any, are 'better' than others. (Price is a consideration, but not the only consideration -- some 'extra' money is available, as upper management understands the need.) So, any takers? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John MacLerran IT Systems Analyst email: macljohn@isu.edu Idaho State University V(208) 282-2954 http://www.isu.edu/~macljohn F(208) 282-3673 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From guy.werry@hbms.ca Wed Jan 19 16:21:16 2005 From: guy.werry@hbms.ca (Guy Werry) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:21:16 -0600 Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Message-ID: We did the same conversion in 1994. We had a consulting company write a Unix version of streamx, so that we could keep "streams" and the streamx prompting. They also wrote an MPE / Image emulator. As time went on and I became more familiar with Unix, I have formed the opinion that it's better to go with native Unix. I.e.: export PHD=xyqdb export QUIZUSE=newsourcefile quiz NOLIST where "newsourcefile" contains the actual Quiz code. We now prefer to run from SOURCE code: Unix is a real pig in dealing with temporary subfiles if your code is compiled. Definitely, it is better to utilize the Unix operating system variables as opposed to relying on the streamx prompt emulation. More work up front, perhaps, but works better in the long run. In terms of the report limit, Unix has "set report nolimit". I recommend it heartily .. saves a lot of trouble unless one has a run-away job. Speaking of the long term, don't cheap things out at the front: the closer you can get to a true Unix environment, the better off you'll be. We had an entire emulator written, thinking that it would save us a bunch of training, etc. What we've now found is that it's a hindrance to move forward (not due to the quality of the contractor's work, just that now there's an extra layer of very OS-dependent code every time a new release of Unix shows up!) Hope this helps, Guy L. Werry Senior Systems Analyst Hudson Bay Mining & Smelting Co., Limited. -----Original Message----- From: John MacLerran [mailto:macljohn@isu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:52 AM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Howdy List-ers! We are in the wonderful, glorious, breathtaking process of migrating from MPE to unix. One thing (of many) that is raising some questions is how best to handle PowerHouse in batch on unix (HP-UX specifically). Does anyone have some 'best practice' tips? A couple of the most pressing issues are 'inline' code and prompting. By inline code, I mean something like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim 42 set rep dev printer go exit !eoj I know this gives unix fits, because of the way it handles stdin. My understanding of the best way to handle the above would be to break the quiz code out into another file, then do a quiz auto=yadayada... My question is "is that _really_ the best way, or am I overlooking something?" I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have a script (MPE, mpex, qedit, sh, or Perl) that will parse a job and attempt to break it into separate files in preparation for changing the jobs to use the auto= notation? By prompting, I mean this: we use streamx to prompt for user input at job submission time. The above quiz could look like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim ?enter report limit? set rep dev printer go exit !eoj We also do more complex prompting, where we substitute the variables in via the {} notation in streamx, but the concept is similar. Can PowerHouse even prompt in batch on unix? Would it be better to re-code the jobs to use system variables? Can items like the report limit above even be defined that way? I'd also be curious to find out which batch job 'handlers' are being used by other PowerHouse shops, and which, if any, are 'better' than others. (Price is a consideration, but not the only consideration -- some 'extra' money is available, as upper management understands the need.) So, any takers? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John MacLerran IT Systems Analyst email: macljohn@isu.edu Idaho State University V(208) 282-2954 http://www.isu.edu/~macljohn F(208) 282-3673 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 19 16:29:21 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:29:21 -0000 Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix In-Reply-To: <41EE8209.8080203@isu.edu> Message-ID: <20050119162927.20F2EE000047@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Some options - just a couple of the almost limitless possible variations. I would imagine that you can say quiz auto=mycode.qzs < mycode.paras, where file mycode.paras contains the responses prompted by a quick screen; you can use $myfile as the open name for the parameter file and set the variable myfile on user login or using setsystemval in the postpath proc of the para request screen. If you are running in batch the parsing time should'nt be an issue, but typically quiz would run against the compiled .qzc file. You can also use << eof syntax as below, again the file has to be written each time before the file is AT'ed, quiz << EOF use mycode.qzs parm1 parm2 ... exit EOF Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of John MacLerran Sent: 19 January 2005 15:52 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Howdy List-ers! We are in the wonderful, glorious, breathtaking process of migrating from MPE to unix. One thing (of many) that is raising some questions is how best to handle PowerHouse in batch on unix (HP-UX specifically). Does anyone have some 'best practice' tips? A couple of the most pressing issues are 'inline' code and prompting. By inline code, I mean something like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim 42 set rep dev printer go exit !eoj I know this gives unix fits, because of the way it handles stdin. My understanding of the best way to handle the above would be to break the quiz code out into another file, then do a quiz auto=yadayada... My question is "is that _really_ the best way, or am I overlooking something?" I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have a script (MPE, mpex, qedit, sh, or Perl) that will parse a job and attempt to break it into separate files in preparation for changing the jobs to use the auto= notation? By prompting, I mean this: we use streamx to prompt for user input at job submission time. The above quiz could look like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim ?enter report limit? set rep dev printer go exit !eoj We also do more complex prompting, where we substitute the variables in via the {} notation in streamx, but the concept is similar. Can PowerHouse even prompt in batch on unix? Would it be better to re-code the jobs to use system variables? Can items like the report limit above even be defined that way? I'd also be curious to find out which batch job 'handlers' are being used by other PowerHouse shops, and which, if any, are 'better' than others. (Price is a consideration, but not the only consideration -- some 'extra' money is available, as upper management understands the need.) So, any takers? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John MacLerran IT Systems Analyst email: macljohn@isu.edu Idaho State University V(208) 282-2954 http://www.isu.edu/~macljohn F(208) 282-3673 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 19 17:38:15 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:38:15 -0000 Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix In-Reply-To: <20050119162927.20F2EE000047@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Message-ID: <20050119173821.22637E000209@blaster.systems.pipex.net> better still is to use syntax like run command 'echo > ' + cmd-line + ' ' + scriptfile' followed by run command 'echo >> ' + cmd-line + ' ' + scriptfile' to build the file to be AT'ed ( where cmd-line and scriptfile are temp items ), this means you don't to have a dictionary file mapped. The filename for scriptfile could be created using something like 'let t_filename = truncate(logonid) + truncate (ascii((sysdate)) + & truncate(ascii(systime)) + ".txt"' Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: 19 January 2005 16:29 To: 'John MacLerran'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Some options - just a couple of the almost limitless possible variations. I would imagine that you can say quiz auto=mycode.qzs < mycode.paras, where file mycode.paras contains the responses prompted by a quick screen; you can use $myfile as the open name for the parameter file and set the variable myfile on user login or using setsystemval in the postpath proc of the para request screen. If you are running in batch the parsing time should'nt be an issue, but typically quiz would run against the compiled .qzc file. You can also use << eof syntax as below, again the file has to be written each time before the file is AT'ed, quiz << EOF use mycode.qzs parm1 parm2 ... exit EOF Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of John MacLerran Sent: 19 January 2005 15:52 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Howdy List-ers! We are in the wonderful, glorious, breathtaking process of migrating from MPE to unix. One thing (of many) that is raising some questions is how best to handle PowerHouse in batch on unix (HP-UX specifically). Does anyone have some 'best practice' tips? A couple of the most pressing issues are 'inline' code and prompting. By inline code, I mean something like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim 42 set rep dev printer go exit !eoj I know this gives unix fits, because of the way it handles stdin. My understanding of the best way to handle the above would be to break the quiz code out into another file, then do a quiz auto=yadayada... My question is "is that _really_ the best way, or am I overlooking something?" I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have a script (MPE, mpex, qedit, sh, or Perl) that will parse a job and attempt to break it into separate files in preparation for changing the jobs to use the auto= notation? By prompting, I mean this: we use streamx to prompt for user input at job submission time. The above quiz could look like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim ?enter report limit? set rep dev printer go exit !eoj We also do more complex prompting, where we substitute the variables in via the {} notation in streamx, but the concept is similar. Can PowerHouse even prompt in batch on unix? Would it be better to re-code the jobs to use system variables? Can items like the report limit above even be defined that way? I'd also be curious to find out which batch job 'handlers' are being used by other PowerHouse shops, and which, if any, are 'better' than others. (Price is a consideration, but not the only consideration -- some 'extra' money is available, as upper management understands the need.) So, any takers? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John MacLerran IT Systems Analyst email: macljohn@isu.edu Idaho State University V(208) 282-2954 http://www.isu.edu/~macljohn F(208) 282-3673 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca Wed Jan 19 18:11:29 2005 From: g_provost_ca@yahoo.ca (Gregory Provost) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:11:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area In-Reply-To: <20050119121030.10101.60361.Mailman@sowder.com> Message-ID: <20050119181129.39952.qmail@web51408.mail.yahoo.com> I suspect your best bet for experienced Powerhouse resources is this list. Perhaps you could recruit any people from this list in your area and form a group if none is currently operating. Cognos refered me to this list when I inquired to them about contacts in my area. We seem to be a vanishing breed. - Greg. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 19 20:20:43 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:20:43 -0000 Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix In-Reply-To: <20050119173821.22637E000209@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Message-ID: <20050119202049.27E3AE0004FD@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Oops, syntax should be as below, run command "'echo ' + cmd-line + ' > ' + scriptfile'" Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: 19 January 2005 17:38 To: 'John MacLerran'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix better still is to use syntax like run command 'echo > ' + cmd-line + ' ' + scriptfile' followed by run command 'echo >> ' + cmd-line + ' ' + scriptfile' to build the file to be AT'ed ( where cmd-line and scriptfile are temp items ), this means you don't to have a dictionary file mapped. The filename for scriptfile could be created using something like 'let t_filename = truncate(logonid) + truncate (ascii((sysdate)) + & truncate(ascii(systime)) + ".txt"' Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: 19 January 2005 16:29 To: 'John MacLerran'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Some options - just a couple of the almost limitless possible variations. I would imagine that you can say quiz auto=mycode.qzs < mycode.paras, where file mycode.paras contains the responses prompted by a quick screen; you can use $myfile as the open name for the parameter file and set the variable myfile on user login or using setsystemval in the postpath proc of the para request screen. If you are running in batch the parsing time should'nt be an issue, but typically quiz would run against the compiled .qzc file. You can also use << eof syntax as below, again the file has to be written each time before the file is AT'ed, quiz << EOF use mycode.qzs parm1 parm2 ... exit EOF Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of John MacLerran Sent: 19 January 2005 15:52 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix Howdy List-ers! We are in the wonderful, glorious, breathtaking process of migrating from MPE to unix. One thing (of many) that is raising some questions is how best to handle PowerHouse in batch on unix (HP-UX specifically). Does anyone have some 'best practice' tips? A couple of the most pressing issues are 'inline' code and prompting. By inline code, I mean something like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim 42 set rep dev printer go exit !eoj I know this gives unix fits, because of the way it handles stdin. My understanding of the best way to handle the above would be to break the quiz code out into another file, then do a quiz auto=yadayada... My question is "is that _really_ the best way, or am I overlooking something?" I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have a script (MPE, mpex, qedit, sh, or Perl) that will parse a job and attempt to break it into separate files in preparation for changing the jobs to use the auto= notation? By prompting, I mean this: we use streamx to prompt for user input at job submission time. The above quiz could look like this: !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct acc filexyz set rep lim ?enter report limit? set rep dev printer go exit !eoj We also do more complex prompting, where we substitute the variables in via the {} notation in streamx, but the concept is similar. Can PowerHouse even prompt in batch on unix? Would it be better to re-code the jobs to use system variables? Can items like the report limit above even be defined that way? I'd also be curious to find out which batch job 'handlers' are being used by other PowerHouse shops, and which, if any, are 'better' than others. (Price is a consideration, but not the only consideration -- some 'extra' money is available, as upper management understands the need.) So, any takers? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John MacLerran IT Systems Analyst email: macljohn@isu.edu Idaho State University V(208) 282-2954 http://www.isu.edu/~macljohn F(208) 282-3673 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From wonicon@optushome.com.au Thu Jan 20 21:23:26 2005 From: wonicon@optushome.com.au (Jeff Hoffman) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:23:26 +1100 Subject: PowerHouse Migration Questions -- Batch jobs on unix In-Reply-To: <41EE8209.8080203@isu.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20050121082326.009ad890@mail> Hi You can still keep it in 1 shell script file eg echo acc filexyz > $HOME/parms.inp echo set rep lim ?enter report limit? >> $HOME/parms.inp echo set rep dev printer >> $HOME/parms.inp echo go >> $HOME/parms.inp echo exit >> $HOME/parms.inp echo $SUBJ >> $HOME/parms.inp echo $CRS >> $HOME/parms.inp echo "" >> $HOME/parms.inp echo quiz dict=$MENUDIR/$MENUDIC nolist < $HOME/parms.inp >> $HOME/$WWWNAM.dat good luck, it might take a bit to get used to the environment, but it is well worth it. Jeff At 08:51 AM 19-01-05 -0700, you wrote: >Howdy List-ers! > >We are in the wonderful, glorious, breathtaking >process of migrating from MPE to unix. One thing (of many) that is >raising some questions is how best to handle PowerHouse in batch on unix >(HP-UX specifically). Does anyone have some 'best practice' tips? A >couple of the most pressing issues are 'inline' code and prompting. > >By inline code, I mean something like this: > !quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct > acc filexyz > set rep lim 42 > set rep dev printer > go > exit > !eoj > >I know this gives unix fits, because of the way it handles stdin. My >understanding of the best way to handle the above would be to break the >quiz code out into another file, then do a quiz auto=yadayada... My >question is "is that _really_ the best way, or am I overlooking >something?" I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have a script >(MPE, mpex, qedit, sh, or Perl) that will parse a job and attempt to >break it into separate files in preparation for changing the jobs to use >the auto= notation? > >By prompting, I mean this: we use streamx to prompt for user input at >job submission time. The above quiz could look like this: >!quiz dict=xyqdb.prod.acct >acc filexyz >set rep lim ?enter report limit? >set rep dev printer >go >exit >!eoj > >We also do more complex prompting, where we substitute the variables in >via the {} notation in streamx, but the concept is similar. Can >PowerHouse even prompt in batch on unix? Would it be better to re-code >the jobs to use system variables? Can items like the report limit above >even be defined that way? > >I'd also be curious to find out which batch job 'handlers' are being >used by other PowerHouse shops, and which, if any, are 'better' than >others. (Price is a consideration, but not the only consideration -- >some 'extra' money is available, as upper management understands the need.) > >So, any takers? > >-- > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > John MacLerran > IT Systems Analyst email: macljohn@isu.edu > Idaho State University V(208) 282-2954 > http://www.isu.edu/~macljohn F(208) 282-3673 >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com >http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + Jeff Hoffman + e-mail: wonicon@optushome.com.au + + Director + + + WoniCon Pty Ltd (ABN 93 083 502 630)+ ,-_|\ + + 21 Prices Circuit + voice: +61 2 9542 1527 / \ + + Woronora NSW 2232 + fax: +61 2 9576 7029 \_,-._* + + AUSTRALIA + mobile: 040 790 3929 v + +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + From mkjohns60@bellsouth.net Fri Jan 21 16:28:10 2005 From: mkjohns60@bellsouth.net (mkjohns60@bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:28:10 -0500 Subject: looking for User groups in Atlanta area Message-ID: <20050121162810.LTK2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Let me clarify. I have recently moved to the Atlanta, GA, USA area (there is a Windsor in Georgia, just by the way) I am looking for anyone in a Powerhouse users group for networking purposes (looking for a job). I have been trying to locate companies that use Powerhouse in the Atlanta, GA, USA area, without much luck, so I thought the List or a users group might be of assistance. Any and all information is appreciated. Thank you everyone From Christina.Hasse@COGNOS.com Mon Jan 24 22:02:20 2005 From: Christina.Hasse@COGNOS.com (Hasse, Christina) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:02:20 -0500 Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Message-ID: Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com Tue Jan 25 00:09:01 2005 From: Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com (Lemin, Graeme) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:09:01 +1100 Subject: PH vacancy in Melbourne, Australia. Message-ID: > Hi PH folks > > I was contacted by an agency looking for a Powerhouse programmer to fill a contract position in Melbourne, Australia. On a VMS machine, performing maintenance and support tasks. Initially for six months, but with a better than even chance of on extension. > > For further details, contact Janine Fulton on (03) 9618 7999 - and tell her I sent you! > > regards > > Graeme Lemin > Black Diamond Technologies > Melbourne, Australia From kosulli3@cosworth-racing.com Tue Jan 25 08:24:53 2005 From: kosulli3@cosworth-racing.com (O'Sullivan, Kevin (K.M.)) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:24:53 -0000 Subject: Permanent Phse Vacancies in the UK? Message-ID: Hi All, Would anyone know if there are any of these going? I'm 3k based (17 years) but would consider x-training. Regards and thanks for your time, Kevin From robeconsult@sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 25 15:41:47 2005 From: robeconsult@sbcglobal.net (Robert Edis) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:41:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Permanent Phse Vacancies in the UK? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050125154147.45075.qmail@web81304.mail.yahoo.com> G'day Kevin I usually post these when I come across them. However I saw a couple in the last week that I haven't done so with. Check out www.jobserve.com (or .co.uk I can't remember) and www.cwjobs.co.uk. Blue --- "O'Sullivan, Kevin (K.M.)" wrote: > Hi All, > > Would anyone know if there are any of these going? > > I'm 3k based (17 years) but would consider > x-training. > > Regards and thanks for your time, > > Kevin > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com > http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a subscriber. > From Christina.Hasse@COGNOS.com Tue Jan 25 22:36:45 2005 From: Christina.Hasse@COGNOS.com (Hasse, Christina) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:36:45 -0500 Subject: PH Job Opportunity in New York, New York Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5032E.599E6441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 I have a company looking to find a person with good Powerhouse knowledge for the next two to three months, possibly longer. 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The work will involve maintaining and updating = reports about 60% of the time, maintaining and updating screens about 15%, adding new reports/screens about 10%, bug fixes15% (these are very rough = estimates).

There will be moderate to heavy involvement with = their user community. They have about 80 of them all over the world. However, about = 20 are heavy users.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5032E.599E6441-- From VNguyen@wsboces.org Tue Jan 25 22:39:14 2005 From: VNguyen@wsboces.org (Viet Nguyen) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:39:14 -0500 Subject: data conversion error Message-ID: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F203161454@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? Any tracer settings? -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Hasse, Christina Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Tue Jan 25 23:37:46 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:37:46 -0000 Subject: data conversion error In-Reply-To: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F203161454@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Message-ID: <20050125233747.13EFAE000055@blaster.systems.pipex.net> from where you are now the simplest would be to use the code below, access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr select if (0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) set sub name xbanks_2 rep summ 'list of key items required by quiz below', access *xbanks_2 & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject & link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional Otherwise you can use qtp edit verbs to identify problem records, or you can use code like that in quiz1 above but with select below, select if not ((0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) ) report 'record identifiers' you can also use matchpattern, but I can't recall the syntax off hand. There is also the qtp trace syntax. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 25 January 2005 22:39 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: data conversion error Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? Any tracer settings? -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Hasse, Christina Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Tue Jan 25 23:43:44 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:43:44 -0000 Subject: data conversion error Message-ID: <20050125234345.7C73CE0001E3@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Oops, the syntax would have to be something like that below, or you will simply get more of the same error :-) select if ("000" le distr_ref[9:3] ) & and ("999" ge distr_ref[9:3]) and I had my gt's and lt's the wrong way round. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 25 January 2005 23:38 To: 'Viet Nguyen'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: RE: data conversion error from where you are now the simplest would be to use the code below, access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr select if (0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) set sub name xbanks_2 rep summ 'list of key items required by quiz below', access *xbanks_2 & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject & link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional Otherwise you can use qtp edit verbs to identify problem records, or you can use code like that in quiz1 above but with select below, select if not ((0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) ) report 'record identifiers' you can also use matchpattern, but I can't recall the syntax off hand. There is also the qtp trace syntax. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 25 January 2005 22:39 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: data conversion error Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? Any tracer settings? -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Hasse, Christina Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.sowder.com http://lists.sowder.com/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From VNguyen@wsboces.org Wed Jan 26 14:33:28 2005 From: VNguyen@wsboces.org (Viet Nguyen) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:33:28 -0500 Subject: data conversion error Message-ID: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F203161459@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Hi everyone - I sent this to Mark who's been helping) Element: CHECK_PAYEE Type: Numeric Size: 10 Decimal Positions: 0 Item Defaults: ZONED-U Size 10 Element: VENDOR Type: Numeric Size: 6 Decimal Positions: 0 Item Defaults: ZONED-U Size 6 set report nowait set report limit 200 set verify access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject define dummy integer size 5 = nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) report check_payee of tbbankcdistr distr_ref dummy (no error) set report nowait set report limit 200 set verify access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional define dummy integer size 5 = nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) report check_payee of tbbankcdistr distr_ref dummy 2 errors Help!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 6:38 PM To: Viet Nguyen; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error from where you are now the simplest would be to use the code below, access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr select if (0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) set sub name xbanks_2 rep summ 'list of key items required by quiz below', access *xbanks_2 & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject & link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional Otherwise you can use qtp edit verbs to identify problem records, or you can use code like that in quiz1 above but with select below, select if not ((0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) ) report 'record identifiers' you can also use matchpattern, but I can't recall the syntax off hand. There is also the qtp trace syntax. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 25 January 2005 22:39 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: data conversion error Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? Any tracer settings? -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Hasse, Christina Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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From KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com Wed Jan 26 15:02:48 2005 From: KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com (Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC)) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:02:48 -0500 Subject: data conversion error Message-ID: <6FD41A56774F624AB3C25A0C8CBF3BDC018A5851@uwmdfwcsc1.srv.unisourcelink.net> Unfortunately "11A" (for example) would still be valid in this select, but still produce a Data Conversion Error using NCONVERT. (Of course assuming you have non-numeric data in one of your fields - my guess anyway). Ultimately you'd need to select out with a matchpattern. select if matchpattern(distr_ref[9:3],"###") Or use "not matchpattern" logic to hunt down the bad data. Regards Dave Knox -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:44 PM To: 'Viet Nguyen'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error Oops, the syntax would have to be something like that below, or you will simply get more of the same error :-) select if ("000" le distr_ref[9:3] ) & and ("999" ge distr_ref[9:3]) and I had my gt's and lt's the wrong way round. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 25 January 2005 23:38 To: 'Viet Nguyen'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: RE: data conversion error from where you are now the simplest would be to use the code below, access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr select if (0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) set sub name xbanks_2 rep summ 'list of key items required by quiz below', access *xbanks_2 & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject & link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional Otherwise you can use qtp edit verbs to identify problem records, or you can use code like that in quiz1 above but with select below, select if not ((0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) ) report 'record identifiers' you can also use matchpattern, but I can't recall the syntax off hand. There is also the qtp trace syntax. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 25 January 2005 22:39 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: data conversion error Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? Any tracer settings? -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Hasse, Christina Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 26 15:05:53 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:05:53 -0000 Subject: data conversion error In-Reply-To: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F203161459@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Message-ID: <20050126150558.8D6E1E000476@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Apologies to you Viet, my intention was to be of help but I missed the reference to 'last link' in your original email :) Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 26 January 2005 14:33 To: Joe Boyle; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error Hi everyone - I sent this to Mark who's been helping) Element: CHECK_PAYEE Type: Numeric Size: 10 Decimal Positions: 0 Item Defaults: ZONED-U Size 10 Element: VENDOR Type: Numeric Size: 6 Decimal Positions: 0 Item Defaults: ZONED-U Size 6 set report nowait set report limit 200 set verify access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject define dummy integer size 5 = nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) report check_payee of tbbankcdistr distr_ref dummy (no error) set report nowait set report limit 200 set verify access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional define dummy integer size 5 = nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) report check_payee of tbbankcdistr distr_ref dummy 2 errors Help!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 6:38 PM To: Viet Nguyen; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error from where you are now the simplest would be to use the code below, access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr select if (0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) set sub name xbanks_2 rep summ 'list of key items required by quiz below', access *xbanks_2 & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject & link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional Otherwise you can use qtp edit verbs to identify problem records, or you can use code like that in quiz1 above but with select below, select if not ((0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) ) report 'record identifiers' you can also use matchpattern, but I can't recall the syntax off hand. There is also the qtp trace syntax. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 25 January 2005 22:39 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: data conversion error Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? Any tracer settings? -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Hasse, Christina Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Wed Jan 26 15:06:25 2005 From: chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk (Chris Sharman) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:06:25 +0000 Subject: data conversion error In-Reply-To: <200501261446382057472@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> References: <200501261446382057472@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> Message-ID: <41F7B1F1.5050505@ccagroup.co.uk> Viet Nguyen wrote: > Hi everyone - I sent this to Mark who's been helping) > > Element: CHECK_PAYEE > Type: Numeric > Size: 10 > Decimal Positions: 0 > Item Defaults: ZONED-U Size 10 > > Element: VENDOR > Type: Numeric > Size: 6 > Decimal Positions: 0 > Item Defaults: ZONED-U Size 6 > (added this line) > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional > > 2 errors You've proved that your errors (presumably data conversion errors) come either from the vendor file, or from the link to it. Not sure whether a check_payee value larger than 999999 would do it - I suspect so. Depending what else you're doing, remember that defines get executed before selects, so you can get data conversion errors on unwanted record complexes, and (on optional records as here) on missing data. So: define xvendor zoned*6 = vendor would probably give data conversion errors whenever the vendor record was missing. define xvendor zoned*6 = 0 if not record vendor exists else vendor would give clean results. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 26 15:12:21 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:12:21 -0000 Subject: data conversion error In-Reply-To: <6FD41A56774F624AB3C25A0C8CBF3BDC018A5851@uwmdfwcsc1.srv.unisourcelink.net> Message-ID: <20050126151227.0354DE000492@blaster.systems.pipex.net> Fair point, and I seem to recall that the defines are evaluated even if the select fails ( so the error remains ), which is why you will probably need to split the pass into two runs in any case. I am assuming that the objective here is to stop the error messages in addition to ensuring that correct data is processed. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) Sent: 26 January 2005 15:03 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error Unfortunately "11A" (for example) would still be valid in this select, but still produce a Data Conversion Error using NCONVERT. (Of course assuming you have non-numeric data in one of your fields - my guess anyway). Ultimately you'd need to select out with a matchpattern. select if matchpattern(distr_ref[9:3],"###") Or use "not matchpattern" logic to hunt down the bad data. Regards Dave Knox -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:44 PM To: 'Viet Nguyen'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error Oops, the syntax would have to be something like that below, or you will simply get more of the same error :-) select if ("000" le distr_ref[9:3] ) & and ("999" ge distr_ref[9:3]) and I had my gt's and lt's the wrong way round. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 25 January 2005 23:38 To: 'Viet Nguyen'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: RE: data conversion error from where you are now the simplest would be to use the code below, access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr select if (0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) set sub name xbanks_2 rep summ 'list of key items required by quiz below', access *xbanks_2 & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject & link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional Otherwise you can use qtp edit verbs to identify problem records, or you can use code like that in quiz1 above but with select below, select if not ((0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) ) report 'record identifiers' you can also use matchpattern, but I can't recall the syntax off hand. There is also the qtp trace syntax. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 25 January 2005 22:39 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: data conversion error Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? Any tracer settings? -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Hasse, Christina Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Job opportunity that includes PowerHouse knowledge........ -----Original Message----- From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Simpkins, Terry Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU Subject: [HP3000-L] Business Analyst opportunity Measurement Specialties, Inc, has an immediate opening for a senior business analyst. The ideal candidate will have at least 4 years experience working with and supporting MANMAN-HP in a discrete manufacturing environment. They will also have a solid grasp of the Cognos POWERHOUSE tool set. The successful candidate will join our ISIT department and help provide systems support for all aspects of our MANMAN-HP system, as well as play a major role in various implementation and process improvement projects at our sites around the world. Besides the USA, we have locations in China, France and Germany. Current projects include ground-up implementations in France and Germany, as well as automating numerous business processes and implementing several "bolt-on" products from third-parties. The individual selected will be a fast learner who is self motivated and able to work both independantly and as a part of a multi-discipline team. The ability to travel internationally is a requirement. Measurement Specialties is a growing supplier of sensor technology to a wide variety of business segments. We are a world leader in pressure, displacement, inclination and load cell sensors. We are actively expanding through both organic growth and acquisition. We offer a competitive compensation package that includes a 401-K program and a performance based bonus program. If you are interested in joining a growing, prospering team, forward your resume with salary requirements to: Terry W. Simpkins Director ISIT Measurement Specialties 757-766-4278 terry.simpkins@msiusa.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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From VNguyen@wsboces.org Wed Jan 26 15:55:33 2005 From: VNguyen@wsboces.org (Viet Nguyen) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:55:33 -0500 Subject: data conversion error Message-ID: <347CDB5064EB254D906B741F9BA035F20316145D@wsbms1.wsboces2.org> Thank you all - found the errors checkpayee was too large! -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:12 AM To: 'Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC)'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error Fair point, and I seem to recall that the defines are evaluated even if the select fails ( so the error remains ), which is why you will probably need to split the pass into two runs in any case. I am assuming that the objective here is to stop the error messages in addition to ensuring that correct data is processed. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) Sent: 26 January 2005 15:03 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error Unfortunately "11A" (for example) would still be valid in this select, but still produce a Data Conversion Error using NCONVERT. (Of course assuming you have non-numeric data in one of your fields - my guess anyway). Ultimately you'd need to select out with a matchpattern. select if matchpattern(distr_ref[9:3],"###") Or use "not matchpattern" logic to hunt down the bad data. Regards Dave Knox -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:44 PM To: 'Viet Nguyen'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: RE: data conversion error Oops, the syntax would have to be something like that below, or you will simply get more of the same error :-) select if ("000" le distr_ref[9:3] ) & and ("999" ge distr_ref[9:3]) and I had my gt's and lt's the wrong way round. Regards, Joe. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 25 January 2005 23:38 To: 'Viet Nguyen'; 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com' Subject: RE: data conversion error from where you are now the simplest would be to use the code below, access *xbanks & link bank of xbanks & viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr select if (0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) set sub name xbanks_2 rep summ 'list of key items required by quiz below', access *xbanks_2 & link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & viaindex object to tbobject & link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & viaindex vendor to vendor optional Otherwise you can use qtp edit verbs to identify problem records, or you can use code like that in quiz1 above but with select below, select if not ((0 ge nconvert(distr_ref[9:3]) ) & and (999 le nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) ) report 'record identifiers' you can also use matchpattern, but I can't recall the syntax off hand. There is also the qtp trace syntax. Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Viet Nguyen Sent: 25 January 2005 22:39 To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com Subject: data conversion error Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) Here is the code: > access *xbanks & > link bank of xbanks & > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > viaindex object to tbobject & > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > viaindex vendor to vendor optional I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I determine which records is causing the error???? 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From atla38@dsl.pipex.com Wed Jan 26 22:48:48 2005 From: atla38@dsl.pipex.com (Joe Boyle) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:48:48 -0000 Subject: Permanent Phse Vacancies in the UK? In-Reply-To: <20050125154147.45075.qmail@web81304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050126224855.55E0EE000315@blaster.systems.pipex.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C503F9.3415C870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A few more PowerHouse jobsite URL's follow ( in the order in my favorites list ) http://www.sentinelit.com/, http://www.theitjobboard.com/, http://www.elanit.co.uk/united_kingdom/vrs/search_results.asp#, http://www.reed.co.uk/, http://www.planetrecruit.com/show_job.cgi?j=2860259cat=23&e=year&k=powerhous e&h=177751105466542, http://www.monarchrecruitment.co.uk/default.asp, http://www.thelocalweb.net/index/EMA/index_EMA5.htm, http://www.computerpeople.com/content_static/home.asp, http://www.huxley.co.uk/, http://www.progressive.co.uk/, http://www.sentinelit.com/, http://www.outsource-uk.co.uk/, Regards, Joe. This e-mail and all information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, dissemination, distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or any of the information contained within it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. The content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may have been altered without the consent or knowledge of the author. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Robert Edis Sent: 25 January 2005 15:42 To: PowerHouse List Subject: Re: Permanent Phse Vacancies in the UK? G'day Kevin I usually post these when I come across them. However I saw a couple in the last week that I haven't done so with. Check out www.jobserve.com (or .co.uk I can't remember) and www.cwjobs.co.uk. 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not to an Oracle database. For relational databases VIAINDEX implies an order by the segments of the index. In addition PowerHouse only matches by type to the segments of the index. So it is possible for the DBA to break PowerHouse code by changing the segment order in the index. Is it possible that data in distr_ref is actually signed zoned?? Your calculation then would be 10 * nconvert(distr_ref[9:2]) + ( index ( " <- zoned overpunch characters ", dist_ref[11:1])) - 1 Regards, Peter Bateman Hi I need some help with debugging (powerhouse 8.13 on AIX) >Here is the code: > > access *xbanks & > > link bank of xbanks & > > viaindex bank_checknum to tbbankcheck & > > link (bank of tbbankcheck, checknum of tbbankcheck, & > > checkcode of tbbankcheck, "B") & > > viaindex check_ref to tbbankcdistr & > > link (nconvert(distr_ref[9:3])) & > > viaindex object to tbobject & > > link check_payee of tbbankcdistr & > > viaindex vendor to vendor optional > >I am getting error with the last link (Data conversion Error) how do I >determine which records is causing the error???? 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