Function Key labels on Windows
Joe Boyle
atla38@dsl.pipex.com
Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:05:49 +0100
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The first thing that comes to mind is 'try Axiant', you can label buttons
with anything you like F1, F66.. I'm not sure what you mean when you say you
can't run designer procedures in data context.
Regards, Joe.
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From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Don Baird @ Encore
Sent: 27 April 2005 02:10
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Function Key labels on Windows
Moving right ahead with our migration from the HP3000 to Windows, we are now
coming to grips with the fact that the Windows Console does not support
function key labels. Really a shame as this greatly reduces the practical
use of function keys. We did some fairly tricky things, especially in DATA
context, that we cannot re-produce. We did use several levels of function
keys in our largest (read that "most important") screens.
We have designed a new means to navigate through our application using more
menus, more Designer Procedures, more input from the Action box, more use of
Info messages, and "fixed" function keys F1 - F12. We have all 12 working
without relying on Shift or Alt or Ctl by modifying the TIC file.
Works OK, though it took "more" of practically everything, but still not as
smooth (easy, intuitive, slick, better - fill in your favorite ) as using
function keys and labels. Oh well.
That said, has anyone else dealt with this issue? Does anyone have any
ideas? The latest New Features manual mentions connecting to the Windows
Console via a terminal emulator - has anyone ever done this? How? Not sure
we would go this route, but we are curious.
Has anyone ever "trapped" a key being pressed, like <F1>, or Ctl W? So we
could do something like : IF FIELDTEXT = <F1> (Ctl W, whatever) THEN RUN
SOME DESIGNER OR INTERNAL PROCEDURE ... If we could get this to work we
could get a little of our "smooth" back.
Too bad you can't run Designer procedures in DATA context.
All ideas are welcome. Anyone who wants to talk about it feel free to give
me a call - (972) 442-9718. If you are going through the same migration I
can tell you what NOT to do.
Thanks.
Don Baird
EnCore Systems
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is ‘try
Axiant’, you can label buttons with anything you like F1, =
F66…. I’m
not sure what you mean when you say you can’t run designer =
procedures in data
context. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Regards, Joe.</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Don Baird @ =
Encore<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 27 April 2005 =
02:10<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Function Key =
labels on
Windows</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Moving right ahead with our migration from the HP3000 =
to
Windows, we are now coming to grips with the fact that the Windows =
Console does
not support function key labels. Really a shame as this greatly =
reduces
the practical use of function keys. We did some fairly tricky =
things,
especially in DATA context, that we cannot re-produce. We did use =
several
levels of function keys in our largest (read that "most =
important")
screens.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We have designed a new means to navigate through our
application using more menus, more Designer Procedures, more =
input
from the Action box, more use of Info messages, and =
"fixed"
function keys F1 - F12. We have all 12 working without relying on =
Shift
or Alt or Ctl by modifying the TIC file.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Works OK, though it took "more" of =
practically
everything, but still not as smooth (easy, intuitive, slick, better
- fill in your favorite ) as using function keys =
and labels. Oh
well.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>That said, has anyone else dealt with this =
issue?
Does anyone have any ideas? The latest New Features manual mentions =
connecting
to the Windows Console via a terminal emulator - has anyone ever =
done
this? How? Not sure we would go this route, but we =
are
curious.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Has anyone ever "trapped" a key being =
pressed,
like <F1>, or Ctl W? So we could do something like : IF =
FIELDTEXT =3D
<F1> (Ctl W, whatever) THEN RUN SOME DESIGNER OR INTERNAL =
PROCEDURE
... If we could get this to work we could get a little of =
our
"smooth" back. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Too bad you can't run Designer procedures in DATA =
context.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>All ideas are welcome. Anyone who wants to =
talk about
it feel free to give me a call - (972) 442-9718. If you are going =
through the
same migration I can tell you what NOT to =
do.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Don Baird</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>EnCore Systems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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