Powerhouse and my personality disorder.
Fyfield, Derek
DEREK.FYFIELD@orbit.net
Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:35:29 +0300
Hi Richard,
Yes, you could use cards to store data. I used paper tape in '69. It
probably gave a more physical meaning to 'Cut and paste' when one had to
splice in new numbers into a torn tape. Cards had something of an advantage
though. Instead of punching an entirely new card if there was only one hole
wrong, one could temporarily plug the column with a spare chad from the
punch's waste-bin, expanding it into position with a bit of pressure and
maybe a damp finger, and then repunching the character. It was a one-time
solution used when overcrowding in the office meant the only card-punch
available was the finger-powered Hollerith.
Regards,
Derek Fyfield
Orbit Bahrain HO
SMS Development & Report Writing
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Sheehan [mailto:sheerich@isu.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:16 PM
To: Deskin, Bob
Cc: Joe Boyle; Guy Werry; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Re: Powerhouse and my personality disorder.
Of course you can do plenty of stuff with a small amount of memory. You
just have to decide how many times you want to write/read the results
to/from some other medium while crunching other numbers.
So were punch cards used for storing data as well as coding? - Newbie
question here :-)
Richard Sheehan
College of Technology - Student Services
IT Programmer Analyst
208-282-4427
Idaho State University
Pocatello, ID 83209-8380
Deskin, Bob wrote:
>I know I'm a bit evangelical (as in passionate support for) about PH Web,
but not this time. You really could do a lot of stuff in small memory.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
>Sent: April 22, 2005 6:53 PM
>To: Deskin, Bob; 'Guy Werry'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personality disorder.
>
>
>I am thinking that BobD might be swinging the conversation towards the
>excellent value to be tapped from the Phweb cgi exe - no ?
>
>Regards, Joe.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
>Sent: 22 April 2005 22:43
>To: Joe Boyle; Guy Werry; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personality disorder.
>
>You could do an amazing amount of processing with 4K, but not colour
>graphics.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Joe Boyle
>Sent: April 22, 2005 5:32 PM
>To: 'Guy Werry'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personality disorder.
>
>
>I am splitting my sides after reading enough to create even an image of
>where this might be heading - for which many thanks :)
>
>Presumably with only 4K they were able to logon - which verified that if
>they had more memory - the 'whole computing thing' might be worth
>pursuing
>:)
>
>Regards, Joe.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Guy Werry
>Sent: 22 April 2005 21:53
>To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personallity disorder.
>
>I can't top that, although I did talk to an old-timer who had been in
>computers since 1958. The first machine he worked on had 4K. They used
>to diagnose memory problems by turning all of the memory on and then
>turning the lights in the memory ROOM off, walking in and looking for
>burned-out tubes! (I think that the 'valves' term might be British).
>
>Guy.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:42 PM
>To: 'Deskin, Bob'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personallity disorder.
>
>
>my first boss in COBOL used to regail us with stories of having to smack
>'valves' with a broom handle to test which one had failed - beat that !
>
>Regards, Joe.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob
>Sent: 22 April 2005 21:13
>To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personallity disorder.
>
>Hey, I figure I can still code a mean COBOL program. By the way, it
>should be spelled in uppercase since it's an acronym for COmmon Business
>Oriented Language. And I'm not THAT old. Mind you, I never learned how
>to touch type or keyboard as it's called now. My son puts me to shame.
>On the other hand, I made fewer mistakes with those punched cards :-)
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
>[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Ken Langendock
>Sent: April 22, 2005 3:59 PM
>To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personallity disorder.
>
>
>ARGGGGG COBOL. Haven't used that since my first year
>of professional programming....back in 1986.
>
>As for your typing teacher...mine looked like an old battle-axe. Hence I
>took auto mechanics instead. Maybe if yours was at my school I would
>have taken it...definately would have learned to type without looking at
>the keys...watching her instead.
>
>I thought all the Cobol programmers died of with the Dinosaurs....lol
>
>
>
>--- Guy Werry <guy.werry@hbms.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Two things come to mind:
>>
>>1) Isn't everyone on the list just shocked to the
>>core by the revelation
>>that a technical / programmer type person has a
>>"personality disorder"???!!!
>>
>>2) REAL programmers can so type! I learned to type
>>in grade 10 in one of
>>those situations that demonstrate that God really
>>does have a sense of
>>humour. I signed up for typing only because I
>>needed a credit and the
>>(young) female teacher was one of the most gorgeous
>>creatures I had ever
>>seen! She crushed my heart by getting married at
>>Christmas, I scraped
>>through with a "D" grade, but DID learn to
>>touch-type!
>>
>>Then, I got into programming. REAL programming ...
>>COBOL! Still the
>>language of the future!
>>
>>Guy.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ken Langendock
>>[mailto:ken.langendock@rogers.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:46 PM
>>To: Joe Boyle; Ken@Langendock.com;
>>powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
>>Subject: RE: Powerhouse and my personallity
>>disorder.
>>
>>
>>I have never been known to be subtle....but this is
>>was not a criticism on your code. As soon as you
>>said
>>Ghost screen, I didn't go any further.
>>
>>As for your typing...no comment. LOL.
>>
>>Being a REAL programmer...I can't type worth beans myself...actually I
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>hate to type...go figure.
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