Sorting rows in a cluster

Harvey Orom harvey@oromconsulting.com
Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:27:27 -0700


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Hi Joe,

I appreciate all the thought you have put into this, but I believe there is
a "chicken and egg" problem with the solution. I can't retrieve records from
the reference file without first retrieving records from the primary file.
( I probably didn't make that clear originally) So when I try to make the
driver file the old reference file, I have no way to retrieve the records
from this file. Or am I missing something?

Cheers ... Harvey


  -----Original Message-----
  From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Joe Boyle
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:03 PM
  To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
  Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster


  My final word on this topic ( I promise ).



  I am suggesting that the current reference file be mapped in a second file
statement, but this time as the primary with the orderby syntax as below,



  File orig-refnce alias new-primry primary occurs 15

  Access orderby column using .via. request.etc.



  File orig-prmry alias new-seconry secondary

  Access via .using columns of new-primry etc.



  File orig-refnce reference

  Access etc.



  Regards, Joe.

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  From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Harvey Orom
  Sent: 20 October 2004 19:13
  To: Whittall, Conrad; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
  Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster



  That sounds like a winner. I will give it a try. Thanks!



  Cheers ... Harvey



    -----Original Message-----
    From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Whittall, Conrad
    Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:28 AM
    To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
    Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster

    You could use a database view as a non-updateable Primary, and then
retrieve the underlying row from the 'real' table as a Secondary (access via
the primary key included in the view) and allow the user to interact with
the fields from the secondary records...so retaining the default PowerHouse
processing and eliminating the need for procedural loops, etc.



    I have used this technique quite a few times with great success.



    Best regards,
    Conrad

    Conrad Whittall
    Senior Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services, Cognos
Incorporated
    3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada


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    From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Harvey Orom
    Sent: Wednesday 20 October 2004 11:46
    To: Rohde, Dirk
    Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
    Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster

    True, but since I want to update the primary file within the cluster, I
think I will lose the convenience  and elegance of standard PowerHouse
procedures. I would need to use temp fields in the cluster, and create a
loop to write the file as a designer file.



    RDB allows updateable views only if one table is involved.



    Cheers ... Harvey



      -----Original Message-----
      From: Rohde, Dirk [mailto:Dirk.Rohde@vpgroup.com]
      Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:28 AM
      To: 'Harvey Orom'
      Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster

      Does RDB not allow you to define a view? If you define a view linking
your primary and reference files, you should then be able to access it as
your primary and sort on the reference field.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Harvey Orom [mailto:harvey@oromconsulting.com]
        Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:13 AM
        To: Joe Boyle
        Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
        Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster

        My environment is vms, rdb, and PowerHouse 7.10.G1. That release of
PowerHouse doesn't appear to recognize any of the cursor keywords, so maybe
the cursor idea is academic, given my environment. I can create cursors in
Rdb, but I am not sure if that will do me much good.



        Cheers ... Harvey

        Harvey Orom
        Orom Consulting Ltd.
        2765 Tudor Ave.
        Victoria, BC
        Canada, V8N 1L6
        Phone: (250) 477-8332
        Email: harvey@oromconsulting.com
        www.oromconsulting.com

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Joe Boyle [mailto:joeboyle_adt@hotmail.com]
          Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:27 AM
          To: 'Harvey Orom'
          Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
          Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster

          At the risk of stating the obvious, you can only use cursors with
relational databases.

          Which file system are you using and which PH version and platform
?

          Regards, Joe.

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          From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Harvey Orom
          Sent: 20 October 2004 00:06
          To: Bickel, Jon
          Cc: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
          Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster

          Unfortunately, I get the reference file from the primary file. I
know I could use a view, with temp fields in the cluster, and a  loop to put
a designer file. I am just trolling for a more elegant solution. Someone
suggested a cursor - what do you think of that?

          Cheers ... Harvey

            -----Original Message-----
            From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Bickel, Jon
            Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:21 PM
            To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
            Subject: RE: Sorting rows in a cluster

            Harvey,

            Is it possible to get the reference file first and then retrieve
the primary, or is the retrieval of the reference file based on a value from
the primary?

            jb

              -----Original Message-----
              From: Harvey Orom [mailto:harvey@oromconsulting.com]
              Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:01 PM
              To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
              Subject: Sorting rows in a cluster

              Is there any way to present the rows in a cluster in a
PowerHouse Quick screen in a sequence by a column that is not in the primary
file (I.e., the column I want to sort by comes from a reference file.) The
primary file is being updated in this screen.

              Thanks in advance...

              Harvey Orom



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Joe,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    Conrad<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Wednesday,=20
    October 20, 2004 10:28 AM<BR><B><SPAN=20
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    powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Sorting rows in =
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database view=20
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from the=20
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the=20
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    quite a few times with great success.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Best=20
    regards,<BR></SPAN></FONT><B><I><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D6><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: navy; =
FONT-STYLE: italic">Conrad</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT=20
    face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">=20
    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3Dgray size=3D1><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Conrad =

    Whittall</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3Dgray =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Senior =
Solutions=20
    Architect, Global Customer Services, Cognos=20
    Incorporated</SPAN></FONT><BR><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
    color=3Dgray size=3D1><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">3755 =
Riverside=20
    Drive, <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Ottawa</st1:City>, <st1:State=20
    w:st=3D"on">Ontario</st1:State>, <st1:PostalCode w:st=3D"on">K1G=20
    4K9</st1:PostalCode>, <st1:country-region=20
    =
w:st=3D"on">Canada</st1:country-region></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><o:p></o=
:p></P>
    <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
    <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D3>
    </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">=20
    powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]=20
    <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Harvey=20
    Orom<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Wednesday 20=20
    October 2004 11:46<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
    Rohde, Dirk<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
    powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Sorting rows in =
a=20
    cluster</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">True, but =
since I=20
    want to update the primary file within the cluster, I think I will =
lose the=20
    convenience&nbsp; and elegance of standard PowerHouse procedures. I =
would=20
    need to use temp fields in the cluster, and create a loop to write =
the file=20
    as a designer file. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">RDB =
allows=20
    updateable views only if one table is involved.=20
    </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers =
...=20
    <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place=20
    =
w:st=3D"on">Harvey</st1:place></st1:City></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></D=
IV>
    <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0cm"><P=20
      class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
      Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B> Rohde,=20
      Dirk [mailto:Dirk.Rohde@vpgroup.com]<BR><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, October =
20, 2004=20
      8:28 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
'Harvey=20
      Orom'<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> =
RE:=20
      Sorting rows in a cluster</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Does =
RDB not=20
      allow you to define a view? If you define a view linking your =
primary and=20
      reference files, you should then be able to access it as your =
primary and=20
      sort on the reference field.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm">
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
        Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
        Harvey Orom [mailto:harvey@oromconsulting.com]<BR><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, October =
20, 2004=20
        8:13 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
Joe=20
        Boyle<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
        powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Sorting rows =
in a=20
        cluster</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My =
environment=20
        is vms, rdb, and PowerHouse 7.10.G1. That release of PowerHouse =
doesn't=20
        appear to recognize any of the cursor keywords, so maybe the =
cursor idea=20
        is academic, given my environment. I can create cursors in Rdb, =
but=20
        I&nbsp;am not sure if&nbsp;that will do me much=20
        good.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Cheers ...=20
        <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place=20
        =
w:st=3D"on">Harvey</st1:place></st1:City></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></D=
IV>
        <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Black" color=3Dnavy size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
Black'">Harvey=20
        Orom</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Orom Consulting=20
        Ltd.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address=20
        w:st=3D"on"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2765 Tudor=20
        Ave.</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street> <BR><st1:place=20
        w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Victoria</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT=20
        face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">,=20
        <st1:State w:st=3D"on">BC</st1:State></SPAN></FONT>=20
        <BR><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Canada</SPAN></FONT></st1:country-region></st1:place><FONT=20
        face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">,=20
        V8N 1L6</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone: (250)=20
        477-8332</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Email:=20
        harvey@oromconsulting.com</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
        size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.oromconsulting.com</SPAN></FONT>=20
        <o:p></o:p></P>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0cm">
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
          Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
          Joe Boyle [mailto:joeboyle_adt@hotmail.com]<BR><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, =
October 20, 2004=20
          7:27 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
'Harvey=20
          Orom'<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
          powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Sorting =
rows in a=20
          cluster</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At =
the risk=20
          of stating the obvious, you can only use cursors with =
relational=20
          databases.&nbsp; <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><O:P></O:P>Which=20
          file system are you using and which PH version and platform=20
          ?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
          <DIV>
          <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><O:P></O:P>Regards,=20
          Joe.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><O:P></O:P>
          <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">This e-mail=20
          and all information contained in it is confidential and may be =
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          privileged. If you are not the intended</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
          color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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          color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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          your access to this e-mail is unauthorized. Any use, =
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          distribution, publication or copying by you of this e-mail or =
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          Do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your =
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          and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done =
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          content of this e-mail and any attachments sent with it may =
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          altered without the consent or knowledge of the=20
          author.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
          face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">
          <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D3>
          </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
          face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">=20
          powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com=20
          [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] <B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Harvey=20
          Orom<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
20 October=20
          2004 00:06<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
          Bickel, Jon<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>=20
          powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Sorting =
rows in a=20
          cluster</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><O:P></O:P>Unfortunately,=20
          I get the reference file from the primary file. I know I could =
use a=20
          view, with temp fields in the cluster, and a&nbsp; loop to put =
a=20
          designer file. I am just trolling for a more&nbsp;elegant =
solution.=20
          Someone suggested a cursor - what do you think of=20
          that?</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
          <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Cheers ...=20
          <ST1:CITY u1:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE u1:st=3D"on"><st1:City=20
          w:st=3D"on"><st1:place=20
          =
w:st=3D"on">Harvey</st1:place></st1:City></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></SPAN></=
FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P>
          <BLOCKQUOTE=20
          style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0cm">
            <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
            size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original =

            Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
            powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com=20
            [mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]<B><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Bickel,=20
            Jon<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Tuesday,=20
            October 19, 2004 3:21 PM<BR><B><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
            powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Sorting =
rows in a=20
            cluster</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P>
            <DIV>
            <P class=3DMsoNormal><ST1:CITY u1:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
            u1:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><FONT face=3DArial=20
            color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Harvey</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:City></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>=
<FONT=20
            face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">,</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><O:P></O:P>Is=20
            it possible to&nbsp;get the reference file first and then =
retrieve=20
            the primary, or is the&nbsp;retrieval of the reference file =
based on=20
            a value from the=20
            primary?</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><O:P></O:P>jb</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE=20
            style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0cm">
              <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
              size=3D2><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
              Message-----<BR><B><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Harvey Orom=20
              [mailto:harvey@oromconsulting.com]<BR><B><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, =
October 19,=20
              2004 5:01 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
              powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Sorting =
rows in a=20
              cluster</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P>
              <DIV>
              <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there any =
way to=20
              present the rows in&nbsp;a&nbsp;cluster in a PowerHouse =
Quick=20
              screen in a sequence by a column that is not in the =
primary file=20
              (I.e., the column I want to sort by comes&nbsp;from a =
reference=20
              file.) The primary file is being updated in this=20
              screen.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
              <DIV>
              <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><O:P></O:P>Thanks in=20
              advance...</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
              <DIV>
              <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Arial Black" =
color=3Dnavy=20
              size=3D3><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial =
Black'"><O:P></O:P>Harvey=20
              Orom</SPAN></FONT>=20
          =
<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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