PowerHouse WEB

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Bob,

When we received our 8.49d upgrade package in the mail, I seem to recall
Cognos offering a deal to "sell" powerhouse web to PH supported customers
for just picking up the maintenance fee (no license fee).  

Is this still available?

How much is maintenance?

Tim Cummings
Frequency Marketing
Milford, OH

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From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:59 AM
To: markstewart@consultantsclub.biz; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: PowerHouse WEB

The products available for download from the Cognos support web site are
there for supported customers who are already licensed to use the product.
The intent is to provide a supported customer with the ability to download a
new version instead of waiting for a shipment. This will become more
important when we issue our upcoming maintenance release. This will be an
on-request release meaning that we will not automatically ship it to all
supported customers. We will notify our customers of its availability and
they will have the option of downloading it or receiving a shipment or both.

These are not "demo" or "trial" versions. They will not function without an
appropriate license key. Just because a customer has our BI products does
not mean that they are entitled to the PowerHouse products.

All that said, as we all know, PowerHouse is excellent for the small,
one-off, utility type programs. Whether a screen or a simple update via QTP.
A single user development license on Windows or UNIX is, relatively
speaking, not very expensive compared to other tools and a developer's time.
For example, using the PowerHouse typical 10:1 productivity improvement, a
Java/C++ program that would take 10 hours to write would take 1 hour in
PowerHouse. At that rate, it doesn't take very long to recover whatever you
spent on the PowerHouse license.

Bob Deskin              
Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268

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From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Mark Stewart
Sent: October 9, 2004 9:18 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: PowerHouse WEB

Hello,

I was curious about the use of Cognos products.  A
company in Michigan I started doing some work use a
lot of Cognos software.  Mostly Impromptu and
PowerPlay.  A memeber of our production staff the
other day kicking around the idea of writing a little
application to make quicks fixes on some Oracle
tables.  Then they started looking for a Java guy. 
The users are not very technical so we don't want them
going into Toad or Sql Navigator.  

I was wondering about the download section on the
customer support section that has PowerHouse WEB.  You
need to be a Secondary support person who is created
by the Primary support person.  Could the Secondary
support person just download PowerHouse Web and
through together some quicky Quick screens?  I'm sure
this company already pays Cognos big bucks for BI
stuff so is the PowerHouse Web stuff automatically
covered under the current payment arrangment or would
we have to fork over more money in addition to the BI
bill?  Is there is a reason the Secondary support
person can download PowerHouse WEB?  Is it to use it?

Thanks,

Mark Stewart
Consultants Club Corp.
Windsor, Ontario

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>When we received our 8.49d upgrade package in the =
mail, I seem to recall Cognos offering a deal to &quot;sell&quot; =
powerhouse web to PH supported customers for just picking up the =
maintenance fee (no license fee).&nbsp; </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Is this still available?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>How much is maintenance?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tim Cummings</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Frequency Marketing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Milford, OH</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Deskin, Bob [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com">mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:59 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: markstewart@consultantsclub.biz; =
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: PowerHouse WEB</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

The products available for download from the Cognos =
support web site are there for supported customers who are already =
licensed to use the product. The intent is to provide a supported =
customer with the ability to download a new version instead of waiting =
for a shipment. This will become more important when we issue our =
upcoming maintenance release. This will be an on-request release =
meaning that we will not automatically ship it to all supported =
customers. We will notify our customers of its availability and they =
will have the option of downloading it or receiving a shipment or =
both.

These are not &quot;demo&quot; or &quot;trial&quot; =
versions. They will not function without an appropriate license key. =
Just because a customer has our BI products does not mean that they are =
entitled to the PowerHouse products.

All that said, as we all know, PowerHouse is =
excellent for the small, one-off, utility type programs. Whether a =
screen or a simple update via QTP. A single user development license on =
Windows or UNIX is, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to =
other tools and a developer's time. For example, using the PowerHouse =
typical 10:1 productivity improvement, a Java/C++ program that would =
take 10 hours to write would take 1 hour in PowerHouse. At that rate, =
it doesn't take very long to recover whatever you spent on the =
PowerHouse license.

Bob =
Deskin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 Senior Product Manager, Application Development =
Tools
 Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 =
CANADA
 bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-admin@li=
sts.sowder.com</A>]On Behalf Of Mark Stewart</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: October 9, 2004 9:18 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: PowerHouse WEB</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello,</FONT>
</P>

I was curious about the use of Cognos products.&nbsp; =
A
 company in Michigan I started doing some work use =
a
 lot of Cognos software.&nbsp; Mostly Impromptu =
and
 PowerPlay.&nbsp; A memeber of our production staff =
the
 other day kicking around the idea of writing a =
little
 application to make quicks fixes on some =
Oracle
 tables.&nbsp; Then they started looking for a Java =
guy. 
 The users are not very technical so we don't want =
them
 going into Toad or Sql Navigator.&nbsp;

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I was wondering about the download section on =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>customer support section that has PowerHouse =
WEB.&nbsp; You</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>need to be a Secondary support person who is =
created</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>by the Primary support person.&nbsp; Could the =
Secondary</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>support person just download PowerHouse Web =
and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>through together some quicky Quick screens?&nbsp; =
I'm sure</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>this company already pays Cognos big bucks for =
BI</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>stuff so is the PowerHouse Web stuff =
automatically</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>covered under the current payment arrangment or =
would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>we have to fork over more money in addition to the =
BI</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bill?&nbsp; Is there is a reason the Secondary =
support</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>person can download PowerHouse WEB?&nbsp; Is it to =
use it?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mark Stewart</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Consultants Club Corp.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Windsor, Ontario</FONT>
</P>

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