powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #1138 - 3 msgs

[Greig Morrison]

Luan,

The Canadian grocery giant Sobey's lost $CAD 350 Million on an failed
SAP implementation.

The automated migration solution from PowerHouse to .NET and Java is
probably from Core Technologies (www.coremigration.com). The problem
with an automated migration is that the code generated may be difficult
to maintain.

Greig

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE:Java/.NET/SAP vs Powerhouse (Robert Edis)
   2. Re:StrongHold (Chris Sharman)
   3. Re:StrongHold (Chris Sharman)

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Message: 1
From: "Robert Edis" <robeconsult@sbcglobal.net>
To: "PH List" <powerh-l@lists.sowder.com>
Subject: RE: Java/.NET/SAP vs Powerhouse
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:01:00 -0600

Luan

I have not yet heard of ANY SAP application that is "straigh forward and
cost effective".  The National Australia Bank is in the hole to the tune
of AUD400 MILLION $$$$$ caused by a bad SAP implementation. (The
Australian, ITT section, sometime last week).

Blue

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> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:33 PM
> To: markstewart@consultantsclub.biz; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
> Subject: Java/.NET/SAP vs Powerhouse
>
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> Like Mark, I would like to hear what would be the benefit for 
> replacing Powerhouse with Java or .NET for that matter.
> There are various companies out there offerring migration solution to 
> .NET or Java and from what I hear it's not a cheap and easy exercise, 
> especially if you are running a transaction base application.
>
> I also aware of a company is looking at replacing their customize 
> unique Powerhouse application into SAP and they have been told that it

> will be straight forward and very cost effective.
>
> I like what others have to say if you hear or come across Java, .NET 
> or SAP experience.
>
> Luan
>
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> From: "Mark Stewart" <markstewart@consultantsclub.biz>
> To: <powerh-l@lists.sowder.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:11 AM
> Subject: Stronghold
>
>
> > Dennis,
> >
> > I was wondering...do you include the benefits from moving from 
> > PowerHouse to Java with your product.  I'm not sure I understand why

> > you'd want to do something like that.  I could not for the life of 
> > me imagine having to maintain a large business application written 
> > in Java.  Nightmare waiting to happen there I'd say.  I'd be running

> > out of that shop in a hurry.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:55:24 +0000
From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk>
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Re: StrongHold

The post is appropriate in my view (in the same way as job ads are).
It wasn't particularly 'disguised' - it was openly from the Stronghold
producer.
When we need to censor the competition here, it's definitely time to
give up on PH.
We don't need regular advertising, but it's good to know the options -
perhaps it should go in a FAQ or something.
Some of us will choose migration sooner or later, or have it thrust upon
us, rightly or wrongly.

Chris


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:26:05 +0000
From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: StrongHold

Robert Edis wrote:
> Besides, the last time an ad like like, from Speedware I think, was 
> put on this list we found out from responses how bad these tools are 
> in conversion, or least how expensive such conversion are.

That sounds like a sound argument in favour of discussing alternatives,
rather than censoring them, and for keeping them here, rather than in
some kind of FAQ.

Where else are you going to find informed and unbiased information on
'where do I go from here' ?

Chris


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