Why would people continue to use the HPe3000, MPE/iX and IMAG E?

Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:53:12 -0500

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Recent HP surveys suggest that over 70% of the 3000 installed base have done
nothing since the announcement and that these same 70% aren't exactly sure
what their going to do.

If it aint broke ...Why fix it.

Bob

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From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of Mark Stewart
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:38 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Why would people continue to use the HPe3000, MPE/iX and IMAGE?

It's was my understanding that HP will stop supporting
this platform in the near future.  So companies should
port their applications to another platform or go it
alone???

How many companies will be on still be on this
platform in 3 years from now anyway?  How many
companies, on the HP3000, have started the move and
will be taking PowerHouse along for the ride?

Mark Stewart

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Why would people continue to use the HPe3000, MPE/iX
and IMAGE? Because it's
like PowerHouse - it works (the vast majority of the
time). MPE/iX is a
solid, if not flashy, OS and quite reliable. Many
companies who bought into
HP3000 many years ago never found a reason to move
elsewhere. This is not to
invite comparison or to disparage anything else. If a
customer is happy, it
doesn't matter whether something else is better unless
it's overwhelmingly
better.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of
Kent Heatherington
Sent: March 27, 2004 10:57 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'
Subject: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse
World (SHRINKING !)

Bob

  Here is my list to share with everyone.

1.  The clients I have worked for in the last couple
of years all have the
same thoughts on Cognos

   1.  The Maintenance is too expensive
   2.  They know Cognos is no longer interested in the
product in any way.
   3.  They all know their companies or Guv depts are
moving to ERP,
Oracle,SAP,Peoplesoft etc...
   4.  They want to do as little as possible to their
legacy PH systems.
   5.  The techie clients want nothing to do with any
Cognos Product. They
seem to want to buy anything but.
        I've encountered several with this bias. 
These folks are just plain
angry over the PH episode.

  And yet despite all of this, they continue to use
the product.  What an
amazing testament.

2.   My personal challenges. Finding Work ! 
Apparently our skills developed
building PH apps on a variety of
platforms is completely useless. With Cognos training,
Crystal Etc.. we are
considered to be newbies and useless. 5 years
experience required on that
list of 10 skillsets required..

  So to say Cognos dropping the ball with PowerHouse
has certainly presented
a job challenge is an understatement.

3. Work Challenges.
   Ok now I'm going to really start something.  What
is with this HP. I'd
forgotten just how stupid this box really is !. After
years of Open/VMS and
Unix, despite having spent the first 5 years of my
career on HP 
I'm ruined.  8 character file names !  Image still in
use !  No PHD  
There is my challenge.  Why would anyone still use
this thing !  (now I'm in
for it !)

Regards to my fellow PH dinosaurs....

Kent Heatherington
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Recent HP surveys suggest that over 70% of the 3000 =
installed base have done nothing since the announcement and that these =
same 70% aren't exactly sure what their going to do.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If it aint broke ...Why fix it.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-admin@li=
sts.sowder.com</A>]On Behalf Of Mark Stewart</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:38 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Why would people continue to use the =
HPe3000, MPE/iX and IMAGE?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's was my understanding that HP will stop =
supporting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>this platform in the near future.&nbsp; So companies =
should</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>port their applications to another platform or go =
it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>alone???</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>How many companies will be on still be on this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>platform in 3 years from now anyway?&nbsp; How =
many</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>companies, on the HP3000, have started the move =
and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>will be taking PowerHouse along for the ride?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mark Stewart</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
 Why would people continue to use the HPe3000, =
MPE/iX
 and IMAGE? Because it's
 like PowerHouse - it works (the vast majority of =
the
 time). MPE/iX is a
 solid, if not flashy, OS and quite reliable. =
Many
 companies who bought into
 HP3000 many years ago never found a reason to =
move
 elsewhere. This is not to
 invite comparison or to disparage anything else. If =
a
 customer is happy, it
 doesn't matter whether something else is better =
unless
 it's overwhelmingly
 better.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT>
</P>

-----Original Message-----
 From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com
 [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-admin@li=
sts.sowder.com</A>] On Behalf Of
 Kent Heatherington
 Sent: March 27, 2004 10:57 AM
 To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'
 Subject: Current Challenges etc. in the =
PowerHouse
 World (SHRINKING !)

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; Here is my list to share with everyone.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1.&nbsp; The clients I have worked for in the last =
couple</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>of years all have the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>same thoughts on Cognos</FONT>
</P>

&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; The Maintenance is too =
expensive
 &nbsp;&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; They know Cognos is no longer =
interested in the
 product in any way.
 &nbsp;&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; They all know their companies =
or Guv depts are
 moving to ERP,
 Oracle,SAP,Peoplesoft etc...
 &nbsp;&nbsp; 4.&nbsp; They want to do as little as =
possible to their
 legacy PH systems.
 &nbsp;&nbsp; 5.&nbsp; The techie clients want =
nothing to do with any
 Cognos Product. They
 seem to want to buy anything but.
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've =
encountered several with this bias. 
 These folks are just plain
 angry over the PH episode.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; And yet despite all of this, they continue to =
use</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the product.&nbsp; What an</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>amazing testament.</FONT>
</P>

2.&nbsp;&nbsp; My personal challenges. Finding Work ! =

 Apparently our skills developed
 building PH apps on a variety of
 platforms is completely useless. With Cognos =
training,
 Crystal Etc.. we are
 considered to be newbies and useless. 5 years
 experience required on that
 list of 10 skillsets required..

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; So to say Cognos dropping the ball with =
PowerHouse</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>has certainly presented</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>a job challenge is an understatement.</FONT>
</P>

3. Work Challenges.
 &nbsp;&nbsp; Ok now I'm going to really start =
something.&nbsp; What
 is with this HP. I'd
 forgotten just how stupid this box really is !. =
After
 years of Open/VMS and
 Unix, despite having spent the first 5 years of =
my
 career on HP 
 I'm ruined.&nbsp; 8 character file names !&nbsp; =
Image still in
 use !&nbsp; No PHD&nbsp; 
 There is my challenge.&nbsp; Why would anyone still =
use
 this thing !&nbsp; (now I'm in
 for it !)

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards to my fellow PH dinosaurs....</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Kent Heatherington</FONT>
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