Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)

Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM
Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:57:25 -0500


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This is totally my own opinion and experience.

Why would people continue to use the HPe3000, MPE/iX and IMAGE? Because it's
like PowerHouse - it works (the vast majority of the time). MPE/iX is a
solid, if not flashy, OS and quite reliable. Many companies who bought into
HP3000 many years ago never found a reason to move elsewhere. This is not to
invite comparison or to disparage anything else. If a customer is happy, it
doesn't matter whether something else is better unless it's overwhelmingly
better.

Bob

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[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com] On Behalf Of Kent Heatherington
Sent: March 27, 2004 10:57 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'
Subject: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse World (SHRINKING !)



Bob

  Here is my list to share with everyone.

1.  The clients I have worked for in the last couple of years all have the
same thoughts on Cognos

   1.  The Maintenance is too expensive
   2.  They know Cognos is no longer interested in the product in any way.
   3.  They all know their companies or Guv depts are moving to ERP,
Oracle,SAP,Peoplesoft etc...
   4.  They want to do as little as possible to their legacy PH systems.
   5.  The techie clients want nothing to do with any Cognos Product. They
seem to want to buy anything but.
        I've encountered several with this bias.  These folks are just plain
angry over the PH episode.

  And yet despite all of this, they continue to use the product.  What an
amazing testament.

2.   My personal challenges. Finding Work !  Apparently our skills developed
building PH apps on a variety of
platforms is completely useless. With Cognos training, Crystal Etc.. we are
considered to be newbies and useless. 5 years experience required on that
list of 10 skillsets required..

  So to say Cognos dropping the ball with PowerHouse has certainly presented
a job challenge is an understatement.

3. Work Challenges.
   Ok now I'm going to really start something.  What is with this HP. I'd
forgotten just how stupid this box really is !. After years of Open/VMS and
Unix, despite having spent the first 5 years of my career on HP 
I'm ruined.  8 character file names !  Image still in use !  No PHD  
There is my challenge.  Why would anyone still use this thing !  (now I'm in
for it !)

Regards to my fellow PH dinosaurs....

Kent Heatherington




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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is totally my own opinion and experience.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Why would people continue to use the HPe3000, MPE/iX =
and IMAGE? Because it's like PowerHouse - it works (the vast majority =
of the time). MPE/iX is a solid, if not flashy, OS and quite reliable. =
Many companies who bought into HP3000 many years ago never found a =
reason to move elsewhere. This is not to invite comparison or to =
disparage anything else. If a customer is happy, it doesn't matter =
whether something else is better unless it's overwhelmingly =
better.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-admin@li=
sts.sowder.com</A>] On Behalf Of Kent Heatherington</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: March 27, 2004 10:57 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Current Challenges etc. in the PowerHouse =
World (SHRINKING !)</FONT>
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<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; Here is my list to share with everyone.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1.&nbsp; The clients I have worked for in the last =
couple of years all have the same thoughts on Cognos</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; The Maintenance is too =
expensive</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; They know Cognos is no longer =
interested in the product in any way.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; They all know their companies =
or Guv depts are moving to ERP, Oracle,SAP,Peoplesoft etc...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.&nbsp; They want to do as little as =
possible to their legacy PH systems.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 5.&nbsp; The techie clients want =
nothing to do with any Cognos Product. They seem to want to buy =
anything but.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've =
encountered several with this bias.&nbsp; These folks are just plain =
angry over the PH episode.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; And yet despite all of this, they continue to =
use the product.&nbsp; What an amazing testament.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>2.&nbsp;&nbsp; My personal challenges. Finding Work =
!&nbsp; Apparently our skills developed building PH apps on a variety =
of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>platforms is completely useless. With Cognos =
training, Crystal Etc.. we are considered to be newbies and useless. 5 =
years experience required on that list of 10 skillsets =
required..</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; So to say Cognos dropping the ball with =
PowerHouse has certainly presented a job challenge is an =
understatement.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>3. Work Challenges.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Ok now I'm going to really start =
something.&nbsp; What is with this HP. I'd forgotten just how stupid =
this box really is !. After years of Open/VMS and Unix, despite having =
spent the first 5 years of my career on HP </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm ruined.&nbsp; 8 character file names !&nbsp; =
Image still in use !&nbsp; No PHD&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>There is my challenge.&nbsp; Why would anyone still =
use this thing !&nbsp; (now I'm in for it !)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards to my fellow PH dinosaurs....</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Kent Heatherington</FONT>
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