Core-migration.
David Morrison - Corporate
dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:49:46 -0800
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Bob,
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Thanks for the info. I'll stand corrected - I have no idea how Core =
Migration got my address.
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David Morrison
McBride Electric
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-----Original Message-----
From: Berry, Robert [mailto:Bob.Berry@Cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:25 AM
To: David Morrison - Corporate; P.H. Jensen; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Core-migration.
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David,
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Let me first say that under no circumstances did or will Cognos ever =
give Core Software a mailing list.
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We consider them to be a competitor of ours and question the ability of =
their application to perform as described. =20
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Bob Berry
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-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]On Behalf Of David Morrison - =
Corporate
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:10 AM
To: P.H. Jensen; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: RE: Core-migration.
P.H.
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I think they got the e-mailing list from Cognos. We were contacted by =
them in January. I see that they are located in Ottawa; I'm guessing =
that the company was started by some Cognos PowerHouse refugees.
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We responded to Core Migration for the purpose of having them estimate =
the cost of a conversion. Based on the size of our application, it was =
going to be a very expensive proposition. As we run on the IBM AS/400, =
for which Cognos has just announced the ending of support, we're on the =
outlook for options for converting our program source, but that's as far =
as we proceeded.
=20
My experience a couple of years ago was that we couldn't find any =
automated program source converters for PowerHouse out there. I haven't =
looked recently; Core Migration is the first one we've heard of.
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Good luck.
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David Morrison
McBride Electric
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-----Original Message-----
From: P.H. Jensen [mailto:ph_jensen@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:08 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.sowder.com
Subject: Fw: Core-migration.
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Hi all,
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I have received some information about a company called Core-migration.=20
Trough the information I have learned that Core-migration have a proven =
method of migrating a powerhouse application to either a .NET or a JAVA =
platform.
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Is there anyone here whom have heard of this company or tried there =
migration or do u have any experiences that u would like to share =
concerning this?
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Do you know of other companies that offers support/programs to migrate =
PH -> Java/.Net/etc. =20
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Regards,
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P.H.
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Berry, Robert
[mailto:Bob.Berry@Cognos.com]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March =
17, 2004
8:25 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> David Morrison - =
Corporate;
P.H. Jensen; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: =
Core-migration.</span></font></p>
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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Let me first say =
that
under no circumstances did or will Cognos ever give Core Software a =
mailing
list.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>We consider them =
to be a
competitor of ours and question the ability of their application to =
perform as
described. </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.sowder.com]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David Morrison - =
Corporate<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March =
17, 2004
11:10 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> P.H. Jensen;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: =
Core-migration.</span></font><font
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle16><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I think they got the e-mailing list from =
Cognos.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>We were contacted by them in
January.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I see that they =
are
located in Ottawa; I'm guessing that the company was started by some =
Cognos
PowerHouse refugees.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle16><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We responded to Core Migration for the purpose =
of
having them estimate the cost of a conversion.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>Based on the size of our application, it was going to =
be a
very expensive proposition.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</span>As we
run on the IBM AS/400, for which Cognos has just announced the ending of
support, we're on the outlook for options for converting our program =
source,
but that's as far as we proceeded.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
class=3DEmailStyle16><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span =
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size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My experience a couple of years ago was that =
we
couldn't find any automated program source converters for PowerHouse out
there.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I haven't looked =
recently;
Core Migration is the first one we've heard =
of.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> P.H. Jensen
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March =
17, 2004
4:08 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Fw: =
Core-migration.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
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Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I have received some information =
about a
company called Core-migration. </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Trough the information I have =
learned that
Core-migration have a proven method of migrating a powerhouse =
application
to either a .NET or a JAVA platform.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Is there anyone here whom have =
heard of
this company or tried there migration or do u have any experiences that =
u would
like to share concerning this?</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Do you know of other companies that =
offers
support/programs to migrate PH -> Java/.Net/etc.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Regards,</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>P.H.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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