y2k revisited?
Deskin, Bob
Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM
Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:26:27 -0500
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There was a change. Bug # 267500. And the problem was that the input century
was being applied to century excluded dates. The PDL manual specifically
says that the option applies to century included dates.
As I mentioned, this was done because we could not risk affecting existing
century excluded data on file.
If your defines and other century excluded data is all in the 21st century,
adding DEFAULT CENTURY 20 to the dictionary should solve the problem.
Bob Deskin
Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com]
Sent: February 26, 2004 3:58 PM
To: 'Deskin, Bob'; Powerhouse List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: y2k revisited?
Bob
The dictionary is exactly the same, except recompiled with the new PH
version.
Looks like something has changed bewteen 8.19 and 8.49.
Here's the entire pdl options statement. Since there's no default century I
guess the default century is 19.
System Options &
Ascii7 &
Century INCLUDED &
Input Century 19 From Year 50 &
Character Set English &
Generic Retrieval Character "@" &
Date Format YYMMDD &
Date Separator "/" &
Decimal "." &
Message Substitution Character "^" &
Multiline Heading Character "^" &
Picture Substitution Character "^" &
Special Name Character "-/'" &
Sysmonths "JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec" &
Title "Norbord Industries Inc." &
ASC ID Method Logonid
Regards,
JWP
-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:46 PM
To: 'Pickering, John (NORBORD)'; Powerhouse List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: y2k revisited?
The INPUT CENTURY option and the DEFAULT CENTURY options are two separate
options. the DEFAULT CENTURY is what is used when processing and formatting.
The INPUT CENTURY is used when prompting the user in QUICK. We did not do a
windowing century for existing data for obvious reasons.
Is the dictionary you're using the same one as in 8.19? The default for
DEFAULT CENTURY is still 19, so if you created a test dictionary from
scratch and did not say DEFAULT CENTURY 20, you'll get this error. What was
the DEFAULT CENTURY in the dictionary in 8.19?
I'm trying to get all the information. It is possible that something was
changed between 8.19 and 8.49.
Bob Deskin
Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com]
Sent: February 26, 2004 3:38 PM
To: 'Deskin, Bob'; Powerhouse List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: y2k revisited?
Bob
Take a look at the pdl option statement parameter in my original message. I
understood this to mean that 19 is the default century for dates where yy is
>= 50. Not correct?
Please note that 8.19 works fine and 8.49 fails -- so what's changed between
these versions?
Regards,
JWP
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From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:25 PM
To: 'Pickering, John (NORBORD)'; Powerhouse List (E-mail)
Cc: Deskin, Bob
Subject: RE: y2k revisited?
The issue here is that the date is declared as CENTURY EXCLUDED. Any century
excluded date is assumed to be in the default century. The option is named
"INPUT CENTRUY" and applies to input only. It does not apply to existing
data not does it apply to century excluded dates. It was designed so that
pre-existing (pre-Y2K) screens did not have to be modified where they
allowed a year entry without the century into a century included date.
Century excluded dates still had to be converted. So the defined item gives
you 19000229 which is an invalid date because there was no Feb 29, 1900
based on the rule of 400.
Bob Deskin
Senior Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com]
Sent: February 26, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Powerhouse List (E-mail)
Cc: Deskin Bob (E-mail)
Subject: y2k revisited?
Anybody got any ideas about this one?
I've logged a "case" with Cognos but I thought somebody out there might have
found and fixed this one already. We're moving to a new machine and a new
version of MPE and are taking the opportunity to upgrade PowerHouse versions
at the same time. So what's with the error below in 8.49.C? The dictionary
options include:
Century INCLUDED &
Input Century 19 From Year 50 &
Any help appreciated.
Regards,
JWP
Q U I Z (PowerHouse 8.19.C4)
Copyright 1999 COGNOS INCORPORATED
Norbord Industries Inc.
> def d-date-ce date century excluded = 000229
> rep all
> go
04/02/26 Norbord Industries Inc. PAGE
1
D-DATE-CE
00/02/29
Q U I Z (PowerHouse 8.49.C)
Copyright 2003 COGNOS INCORPORATED
Norbord Ind.
> def d-date-ce date century excluded = 000229
> rep all
> go
04/02/26 Norbord Industries Inc. PAGE
1
D-DATE-CE
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>There was a change. Bug # 267500. And the problem was =
that the input century was being applied to century excluded dates. The =
PDL manual specifically says that the option applies to century =
included dates.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As I mentioned, this was done because we could not =
risk affecting existing century excluded data on file.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If your defines and other century excluded data is =
all in the 21st century, adding DEFAULT CENTURY 20 to the dictionary =
should solve the problem.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob =
Deskin =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Senior Product Manager, Application Development =
Tools, Cognos Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: =
(613) 727-1178</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON =
K1G 4K9 CANADA</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com">mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com</A>] =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: February 26, 2004 3:58 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Deskin, Bob'; Powerhouse List (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: y2k revisited?</FONT>
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<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The dictionary is exactly the same, except recompiled =
with the new PH version.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Looks like something has changed bewteen 8.19 and =
8.49.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Here's the entire pdl options statement. Since =
there's no default century I guess the default century is 19.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>System Options &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ascii7 &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Century INCLUDED &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Input Century 19 From Year 50 &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Character Set English &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Generic Retrieval Character "@" =
&</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Date Format YYMMDD &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Date Separator "/" &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Decimal "." &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Message Substitution Character "^" =
&</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Multiline Heading Character "^" =
&</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Picture Substitution Character "^" =
&</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Special Name Character "-/'" &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sysmonths =
"JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec" &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Title "Norbord Industries Inc." =
&</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ASC ID Method Logonid</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>JWP</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Deskin, Bob [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM">mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:46 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Pickering, John (NORBORD)'; Powerhouse List =
(E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: y2k revisited?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The INPUT CENTURY option and the DEFAULT CENTURY =
options are two separate options. the DEFAULT CENTURY is what is used =
when processing and formatting. The INPUT CENTURY is used when =
prompting the user in QUICK. We did not do a windowing century for =
existing data for obvious reasons.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Is the dictionary you're using the same one as in =
8.19? The default for DEFAULT CENTURY is still 19, so if you created a =
test dictionary from scratch and did not say DEFAULT CENTURY 20, you'll =
get this error. What was the DEFAULT CENTURY in the dictionary in 8.19?<=
/FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm trying to get all the information. It is possible =
that something was changed between 8.19 and 8.49.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob =
Deskin =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Senior Product Manager, Application Development =
Tools, Cognos Inc. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: =
(613) 727-1178 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON =
K1G 4K9 CANADA </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com">mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com</A>] =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: February 26, 2004 3:38 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Deskin, Bob'; Powerhouse List (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: y2k revisited?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Take a look at the pdl option statement parameter in =
my original message. I understood this to mean that 19 is the default =
century for dates where yy is</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>=3D 50. Not correct?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Please note that 8.19 works fine and 8.49 fails -- so =
what's changed between these versions?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>JWP</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Deskin, Bob [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM">mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:25 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Pickering, John (NORBORD)'; Powerhouse List =
(E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: Deskin, Bob</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: y2k revisited?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The issue here is that the date is declared as =
CENTURY EXCLUDED. Any century excluded date is assumed to be in the =
default century. The option is named "INPUT CENTRUY" and =
applies to input only. It does not apply to existing data not does it =
apply to century excluded dates. It was designed so that pre-existing =
(pre-Y2K) screens did not have to be modified where they allowed a year =
entry without the century into a century included date. Century =
excluded dates still had to be converted. So the defined item gives you =
19000229 which is an invalid date because there was no Feb 29, 1900 =
based on the rule of 400.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob =
Deskin =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Senior Product Manager, Application Development =
Tools, Cognos Inc. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: =
(613) 727-1178 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message----- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com">mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com</A>] =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: February 26, 2004 3:19 PM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: Deskin Bob (E-mail) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: y2k revisited? </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Anybody got any ideas about this one? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I've logged a "case" with Cognos but I =
thought somebody out there might have found and fixed this one already. =
We're moving to a new machine and a new version of MPE and are taking =
the opportunity to upgrade PowerHouse versions at the same time. So =
what's with the error below in 8.49.C? The dictionary options include: =
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> Century INCLUDED & </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> Input Century 19 From Year 50 & </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Any help appreciated. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>JWP </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Q U I Z (PowerHouse 8.19.C4) =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Copyright 1999 COGNOS INCORPORATED </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Norbord Industries Inc. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> def d-date-ce date century excluded =3D =
000229</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> rep all </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> go </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>04/02/26 &=
nbsp; Norbord =
Industries =
Inc. &n=
bsp; PAGE </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> D-DATE-CE </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> 00/02/29 </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Q U I Z (PowerHouse 8.49.C) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Copyright 2003 COGNOS INCORPORATED </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Norbord Ind. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> def d-date-ce date century excluded =3D 000229 =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> rep all </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> go </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
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SIZE=3D2>04/02/26 &=
nbsp; Norbord =
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