Tool to generate screen program?????
Jon Hawks
hawksj@yahoo.com
Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
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I sort of read the problem with an eye toward the concept of passing a file, ala XML for HTML output. I think the statement bears the current trend in developers to discuss screens in these terms. However, some of us older folk, might well take the idea of passing a file, to mean perhaps a table defined by a subdictionary, or something constructed in the Phd. Anyway, If this idea could be cleared up, it might go to helping understand where this person is, in terms of understanding of PH concepts/Web concepts, and how we might get entangled in the question.
Ohh, I'm going back for coffee now...
"Hurworth, Erik" <Erik.Hurworth@cognos.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I may be wrong but I think the original question may have been aluding to whether you can generate the source code
from a compiled program if you have since mislaid the source. The answer to this question as far as I am aware is a
resounding NO.
Regards
Erik A. Hurworth
Technical Lead
Customer Support
Cognos Ltd.
Tel: +44 1344 707799
Email: erik.hurworth@cognos.com
Web: support.cognos.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 21 October 2003 11:24
To: 'gary'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Tool to generate screen program?????
Yes it did but has not been available for many years. We found that it was very difficult to maintain relative to the use customers got from it. Of course there were some people who loved it, but most didn't care one way or the other. We'd rather focus resources where they matter.
It's very difficult to translate a layout into efficient QDESIGN code. Note the word efficient. I suppose you could use AT options for every FIELD, but that's not efficient. Also, how do you handle ID association. The layout section in QDESIGN is not just layout, it's processing sequence and grouping as well. This is where Screen Painter really had problems.
Bob Deskin
Product Manager, Application Development Tools
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268
-----Original Message-----
From: gary [mailto:gary@heritage.co.za]
Sent: October 21, 2003 5:01 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Re: Tool to generate screen program?????
Didn't the PowerHouse Paint utility do something similar. I don't know if it has been discontinued, but I remember using it to do the initial design for screens, but that was a few versions back and I don't recall seeing it in our present version(MPE 8.19C).
----- Original Message -----
From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: Tool to generate screen program?????
No, but if you're pre-paired to pay me $40 an hour (AUS) I'll make one for you in VB. Not a bad idea actually.
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From: powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@listsswau.edu]On Behalf Of danteshwari d
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:37 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Tool to generate screen program?????
Hello all,
Is there any tool which can generate screen program in QDesign when the layout of the screen
is given as an input file(something similar to HTML code generation in frontpage)?
If no tool is available then i would like to know if this kind of thing is possible in powerhouse.
Danteshwari
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<DIV>I sort of read the problem with an eye toward the concept of passing a file, ala XML for HTML output. I think the statement bears the current trend in developers to discuss screens in these terms. However, some of us older folk, might well take the idea of passing a file, to mean perhaps a table defined by a subdictionary, or something constructed in the Phd. Anyway, If this idea could be cleared up, it might go to helping understand where this person is, in terms of understanding of PH concepts/Web concepts, and how we might get entangled in the question. </DIV>
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<DIV>Ohh, I'm going back for coffee now...</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Hurworth, Erik" <Erik.Hurworth@cognos.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=063122212-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=063122212-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I may be wrong but I think the original question may have been aluding to whether you can generate the source code </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=063122212-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>f</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=063122212-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>rom a compiled </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=063122212-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>program if you have since mislaid the source. The answer to this question as far as I am aware is a</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=063122212-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>resounding NO.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Erik A. Hurworth</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Technical Lead</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Customer Support</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cognos Ltd.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tel: +44 1344 707799</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Email: erik.hurworth@cognos.com</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Web: support.cognos.com</FONT> </P>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 October 2003 11:24<BR><B>To:</B> 'gary'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Tool to generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=449121910-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes it did but has not been available for many years. We found that it was very difficult to maintain relative to the use customers got from it. Of course there were some people who loved it, but most didn't care one way or the other. We'd rather focus resources where they matter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=449121910-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=449121910-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It's very difficult to translate a layout into efficient QDESIGN code. Note the word efficient. I suppose you could use AT options for every FIELD, but that's not efficient. Also, how do you handle ID association. The layout section in QDESIGN is not just layout, it's processing sequence and grouping as well. This is where Screen Painter really had problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob Deskin </FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Product Manager</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>,</FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>Application Development Tools</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cognos Inc.</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>3755 Riverside Drive</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>,</FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>bob.deskin@cognos.com</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>(613) 738-1338 ext</FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>7268</FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> gary [mailto:gary@heritage.co.za]<BR><B>Sent:</B> October 21, 2003 5:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Tool to generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=2>Didn't the PowerHouse Paint utility do something similar. I don't know if it has been discontinued, but I remember using it to do the initial design for screens, but that was a few versions back and I don't recall seeing it in our present version(MPE 8.19C).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=149050423-20102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No, but if you're pre-paired to pay me $40 an hour (AUS) I'll make one for you in VB. Not a bad idea actually.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu">powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu</A> [<A href="mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu">mailto:powerh-l-admin@listsswau.edu</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>danteshwari d<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 20, 2003 1:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu">powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Tool to generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there any tool which can generate screen program in QDesign when the layout of the screen </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>is given as an input file(something similar to HTML code generation in frontpage)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If no tool is available then i would like to know if this kind of thing is possible in powerhouse.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Danteshwari</FONT></DIV>
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