Tool to generate screen program?????

Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM
Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:23:53 -0400


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Yes it did but has not been available for many years. We found that it was
very difficult to maintain relative to the use customers got from it. Of
course there were some people who loved it, but most didn't care one way or
the other. We'd rather focus resources where they matter.
 
It's very difficult to translate a layout into efficient QDESIGN code. Note
the word efficient. I suppose you could use AT options for every FIELD, but
that's not efficient. Also, how do you handle ID association. The layout
section in QDESIGN is not just layout, it's processing sequence and grouping
as well. This is where Screen Painter really had problems.
Bob Deskin              
Product Manager, Application Development Tools 
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA 
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 

-----Original Message-----
From: gary [mailto:gary@heritage.co.za]
Sent: October 21, 2003 5:01 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Re: Tool to generate screen program?????


Didn't the PowerHouse Paint utility do something similar. I don't know if it
has been discontinued, but I remember using it to do the initial design for
screens, but that was a few versions back and I don't recall seeing it in
our present version(MPE 8.19C).
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at  <mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au>
Alcoa) 
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu <mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu>  
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: Tool to generate screen program?????

No, but if you're pre-paired to pay me $40 an hour (AUS) I'll make one for
you in VB. Not a bad idea actually.

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Subject: Tool to generate screen program?????



Hello all,
 
Is there any tool which can  generate screen program in QDesign when the
layout of the screen 
is given as an input file(something similar to HTML code generation in
frontpage)?
If no tool is available then i would like to know if this kind of thing is
possible in powerhouse.
 
Danteshwari
 


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<DIV><SPAN class=449121910-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes it 
did but has not been available for many years. We found that it was very 
difficult to maintain relative to the use customers got from it. Of course there 
were some people who loved it, but most didn't care one way or the other. We'd 
rather focus resources where they matter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=449121910-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=449121910-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It's 
very difficult to translate a layout into efficient QDESIGN code. Note the word 
efficient. I suppose you could use AT options for every FIELD, but that's not 
efficient. Also, how do you handle ID association. The layout section in QDESIGN 
is not just layout, it's processing sequence and grouping as well. This is where 
Screen Painter really had problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=449121910-21102003>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob 
Deskin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Product Manager</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>,</FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>Application Development Tools</FONT> 
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cognos Inc.</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> 
<FONT face=Arial size=2>3755 Riverside Drive</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>,</FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA</FONT> 
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>bob.deskin@cognos.com</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>(613) 738-1338 ext</FONT> <FONT 
face=Arial size=2>7268</FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> gary 
  [mailto:gary@heritage.co.za]<BR><B>Sent:</B> October 21, 2003 5:01 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Tool to 
  generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=2>Didn't the PowerHouse Paint utility do 
  something similar. I don't know if it has been discontinued, but I remember 
  using it to do the initial design for screens, but that was a few versions 
  back and I don't recall seeing it in our present version(MPE 
  8.19C).</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au 
    href="mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au">Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at 
    Alcoa)</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=powerh-l@lists.swau.edu 
    href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu">powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:04 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Tool to generate screen 
    program?????</DIV>
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    <DIV><SPAN class=149050423-20102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>No, but if you're pre-paired to pay me $40 an hour (AUS) I'll make 
    one for you in VB. Not a bad idea actually.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu">powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu</A> 
      [<A 
      href="mailto:powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu">mailto:powerh-l-admin@listsswau.edu</A>]<B>On 
      Behalf Of </B>danteshwari d<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 20, 2003 1:37 
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu">powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> 
      Tool to generate screen program?????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is&nbsp;there any tool which can&nbsp; 
      generate screen program&nbsp;in QDesign when the layout of the screen 
      </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>is given as an input file(something similar 
      to HTML code generation in frontpage)?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If no tool is available then i would like to 
      know if this kind of thing is possible in powerhouse.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Danteshwari</FONT></DIV>
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