PA-RISC Emulator (WAS: Questionnaire results)

Leathers, Burton Burton.Leathers@Cognos.COM
Thu, 8 May 2003 20:27:53 -0400


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Jon,
 
First, allow me to introduce myself. I am Burton Leathers and have recently
joined the ADT team as architect.
 
Since you ask a question about a hypothetical matter, it warrants a
hypothetical answer. A PA-RISC emulator must, to deserve the name, be
indistinguishable from a PA-RISC system. It should, therefore, be possible
to run ADT products without any change on any such emulator.
 
The practical question is whether Cognos would support a system used in such
a setting. That would depend very much upon whether the emulator was
certified as being valid. So long as Cognos supports the ADT products on a
PA-RISC system then users should be able to use an emulator. (I pointedly
ignore details such as licensing.) However, any problem reported on an
emulator would also have to be reproducible on a PA-RISC system.
 
That said, if there turns out to be a significant uptake of PA-RISC
emulation by existing customers, there would have to be a reconsideration of
whether "non-reproducible" bugs would be addressed, i.e. whether the
emulator would be treated as a separate, supported platform. Let's wait to
see how the future unfolds.
 
Burton Leathers 
Software Architect 
Cognos Incorporated 


-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:28 PM
To: 'JMBackus@TechGroupMD.com'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: PA-RISC Emulator (WAS: Questionnaire results)



Hello Jon,
 
Unfortunately I've not been involved with the management of the ADT business
for a couple of years now (although I keep my hand in with designing and
building new internal -- and hopefully external -- PHWeb apps from time to
time). Therefore the question of whether Cognos will consider supporting the
ADT products on a PA-RISC emulator is something that I can't really comment
on. Perhaps someone else might be able to let us know where this topic
currently stands.
 
Best regards,
Conrad 

Conrad Whittall 
Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan M. Backus [mailto:JMBackus@TechGroupMD.com]
Sent: 8 May 2003 14:53
To: 'Whittall, Conrad'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Questionaire results


Conrad,
 
    Can you tell us were Cognos stands on supporting a 'PA-RISC' emulator
that would allow the "true" MPE operating system, complete with Image and
all other sub-systems, to continue to run on non-HP3000 hardware?

Thanx, 
    Jon Backus  

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=571581100-09052003>Jon,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=571581100-09052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=571581100-09052003>First, 
allow me to introduce myself. I am Burton Leathers and have recently joined the 
ADT team as architect.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=571581100-09052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=571581100-09052003>Since 
you ask a question about a hypothetical matter, it warrants a hypothetical 
answer. A PA-RISC emulator must, to deserve the name, be indistinguishable from 
a PA-RISC system. It should, therefore, be possible to run ADT products without 
any change on any such emulator.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=571581100-09052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=571581100-09052003>The 
practical question is whether Cognos would support a system used in such a 
setting. That would depend very much upon whether the emulator was certified as 
being valid. So long as Cognos supports the ADT products on a PA-RISC system 
then users should be able to use an emulator. (I pointedly ignore details such 
as licensing.) However, any problem reported on an emulator would also have to 
be reproducible on a PA-RISC system.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=571581100-09052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=571581100-09052003>That 
said, if there turns out to be a significant uptake of PA-RISC emulation by 
existing customers, there would have to be a reconsideration of whether 
"non-reproducible" bugs would be addressed, i.e. whether the emulator would be 
treated as a separate, supported platform. Let's wait to see how the future 
unfolds.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=571581100-09052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=571581100-09052003>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Burton Leathers</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Software Architect</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cognos 
Incorporated</FONT> </P><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original 
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Whittall, Conrad 
[mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:28 
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'JMBackus@TechGroupMD.com'; 
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> PA-RISC Emulator (WAS: Questionnaire 
results)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN class=339012123-08052003>Hello 
  Jon,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN 
  class=339012123-08052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN class=339012123-08052003>Unfortunately 
  I've not been involved with the management of the ADT business for a couple of 
  years now (although I keep my hand in with designing and building new internal 
  -- and hopefully external -- PHWeb apps from time to time). Therefore 
  t</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN class=339012123-08052003>he 
  question of whether Cognos will consider supporting the ADT products on a 
  PA-RISC emulator is something that I can't really comment on. Perhaps someone 
  else might be able to let us know where this topic currently 
  stands.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN 
  class=339012123-08052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN 
  class=339012123-08052003></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN 
  class=339012123-08052003><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Best 
  regards,</FONT><BR><B><I><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000080 
  size=6>Conrad</FONT></I></B><I></I> </DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P><B><FONT face=Arial color=#808080 size=1>Conrad Whittall</FONT></B> 
  <BR><B><FONT face=Arial color=#808080 size=1>Solutions Architect, Global 
  Customer Services</FONT></B><BR><B><FONT face=Arial color=#808080 
  size=1>Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, 
  Canada</FONT></B></P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jonathan M. Backus 
  [mailto:JMBackus@TechGroupMD.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 8 May 2003 
  14:53<BR><B>To:</B> 'Whittall, Conrad'; 
  powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Questionaire 
  results<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=713384418-08052003><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Conrad,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=713384418-08052003><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
  size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Can you tell us were Cognos stands on supporting a 
  'PA-RISC' emulator that would allow the "true" MPE operating system, complete 
  with Image and all other sub-systems, to continue to run on non-HP3000 
  hardware?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
  <P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 
  size=2>Thanx,</FONT> </SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" 
  color=#000080 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jon Backus</FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;<SPAN 
  class=339012123-08052003><FONT face=Verdana size=2>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN class=339012123-08052003><FONT face=Verdana 
  size=2>&lt;snip&gt;</FONT></SPAN></P>
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