PowerHouse in the next 3 years?

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People of the board

Free PowerHouse Web....

If PHWeb were included with the next release (8.4)  along with AXiant do you
believe that your applications would be better served????

Do you see the potential for migrating existing applications to the web????
to Unix????

Would IT directors embrace this technology???

Do you think that there is a need for PH Linux???

Do you need Itanium support???

Are you prepared to show cost savings, manhour reductions, increased
productivity etc etc ??

If so .........please reply.....

Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX
[mailto:Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:49 PM
To: 'Darren Reely'
Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: PowerHouse in the next 3 years?

"Limit developers learning experience to 'more of the same' maintenance, 
rotting their brains into believing PH is the best solution for all 
problems."

I hadn't noticed that my brain is rotting....  Good thing you pointed this
out...  :-)    

Seriously though, there is no need to throw out perfectly good systems in PH
just so you can use the newest and shiniest toys (take a look some time at
how much these new products and development cycles cost - ie: Oracle
Designer and friends).   Many of these new toys can still work in harmony
with the older, venerable systems and cost next to NOTHING (ie: big PH shop
means FREE Powerhouse Web).  (courtesy of OpenVMS/Cognos)

cheers!

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:21 PM
Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Re: PowerHouse in the next 3 years?

Powerhouse will...

Be used only to maintain current PH systems. Few if any _new_ major 
software projects will occur.

Continue to shrink in the market. Companies will transition to packaged 
software and that other 'silver bullet', Java development solutions.

Limit developers learning experience to 'more of the same' maintenance, 
rotting their brains into believing PH is the best solution for all 
problems.

Not have any new developer enhancements worth mentioning.

Still be considered overpriced for many.

Not be available on open source operating systems such as Linux.

Yet another discussion will ask; Is Powerhouse Dead?

Lastly, Cognos will not respond to such questions. Assuming they even 
have the answers.

In summary, we'll be exactly where we are now.  Is that where you want 
to be?

Darren

stewm@canada.com wrote:

>I am curious...what will be the largest activity
>involving PowerHouse in the next few years for
>companies?  Does Cognos have a expected growth/decline
>chart on their website for this product?  What are the
>expected areas for growth?  What are the expected areas
>for decline. 
>
>Will it be HP3000 to HP9000 migration projects?
>Will it be moving away from PowerHouse?
>What about possible HP3000 to Axiant projects? 
>PowerHouse Web Projects?
>What activities will show up the most on the scale in
>the next few years.  It would be kind of nice to have
>around a 3 year estimation of trends for this
>particular product (PowerHouse).  I don't want to spark
>one of those 'Is PowerHouse Dead' discussions please. 
>What do people/Cognos think will be the main projects
>involving PowerHouse in the next few years?
>
>Just curious on how Cognos views PowerHouse 4GL in
>their product line in 3 years.
>
>Mark Stewart
>Windsor, Ontario
>
>Consultants Club Corp.
>Quote for the Day: Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>People of the board</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Free PowerHouse Web....</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If PHWeb were included with the next release =
(8.4)&nbsp; along with AXiant do you believe that your applications =
would be better served????</FONT></P>

Do you see the potential for migrating existing =
applications to the web???? to Unix????

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Would IT directors embrace this technology???</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Do you think that there is a need for PH =
Linux???</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Do you need Itanium support???</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Are you prepared to show cost savings, manhour =
reductions, increased productivity etc etc ??</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If so .........please reply.....</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bob </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca">mailto:Harold.A.Johnson=
@gems1.gov.bc.ca</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:49 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Darren Reely'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: PowerHouse in the next 3 years?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;Limit developers learning experience to 'more =
of the same' maintenance, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>rotting their brains into believing PH is the best =
solution for all </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>problems.&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I hadn't noticed that my brain is rotting....&nbsp; =
Good thing you pointed this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>out...&nbsp; :-)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Seriously though, there is no need to throw out =
perfectly good systems in PH</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>just so you can use the newest and shiniest toys =
(take a look some time at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>how much these new products and development cycles =
cost - ie: Oracle</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Designer and friends).&nbsp;&nbsp; Many of these new =
toys can still work in harmony</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>with the older, venerable systems and cost next to =
NOTHING (ie: big PH shop</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>means FREE Powerhouse Web).&nbsp; (courtesy of =
OpenVMS/Cognos)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>cheers!</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Darren Reely [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com">mailto:darren.reely@lattice=
semi.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:21 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: PowerHouse in the next 3 years?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Powerhouse will...</FONT>
</P>

Be used only to maintain current PH systems. Few if =
any _new_ major 
 software projects will occur.

Continue to shrink in the market. Companies will =
transition to packaged 
 software and that other 'silver bullet', Java =
development solutions.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Limit developers learning experience to 'more of the =
same' maintenance, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>rotting their brains into believing PH is the best =
solution for all </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>problems.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Not have any new developer enhancements worth =
mentioning.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Still be considered overpriced for many.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Not be available on open source operating systems =
such as Linux.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yet another discussion will ask; Is Powerhouse =
Dead?</FONT>
</P>

Lastly, Cognos will not respond to such questions. =
Assuming they even 
 have the answers.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In summary, we'll be exactly where we are now.&nbsp; =
Is that where you want </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to be?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Darren</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>stewm@canada.com wrote:</FONT>
</P>

&gt;I am curious...what will be the largest =
activity
 &gt;involving PowerHouse in the next few years =
for
 &gt;companies?&nbsp; Does Cognos have a expected =
growth/decline
 &gt;chart on their website for this product?&nbsp; =
What are the
 &gt;expected areas for growth?&nbsp; What are the =
expected areas
 &gt;for decline. 
 &gt;
 &gt;Will it be HP3000 to HP9000 migration =
projects?
 &gt;Will it be moving away from PowerHouse?
 &gt;What about possible HP3000 to Axiant projects? =

 &gt;PowerHouse Web Projects?
 &gt;What activities will show up the most on the =
scale in
 &gt;the next few years.&nbsp; It would be kind of =
nice to have
 &gt;around a 3 year estimation of trends for =
this
 &gt;particular product (PowerHouse).&nbsp; I don't =
want to spark
 &gt;one of those 'Is PowerHouse Dead' discussions =
please. 
 &gt;What do people/Cognos think will be the main =
projects
 &gt;involving PowerHouse in the next few =
years?
 &gt;
 &gt;Just curious on how Cognos views PowerHouse 4GL =
in
 &gt;their product line in 3 years.
 &gt;
 &gt;Mark Stewart
 &gt;Windsor, Ontario
 &gt;
 &gt;Consultants Club Corp.
 &gt;Quote for the Day: Live by the sword, die by the =
sword.
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