Access vs PH (was Is there a place for 4GLs anymore?)

[Edis, Robert]

Based on your description (and my own experience with Access) I would class
it as an event-driven 3GL especially as to get any real power out of it you
must write VB code.  However using Access in this way one *might* consider
the MDB file as a data dictionary especially as it can reference multiple
data sources concurrently.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Schuck [mailto:Bruce@schuck.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:49 AM
To: 'Powerh-L (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: Is there a place for 4GLs anymore?


 In some ways it is similar to Powerhouse. If you use the adp option where
you set you backend as SQL Server (or the runtime version of SQL server that
comes with Access 2000 or Access 2002) you get a tool with:

A stored procedure designer
A view designer
A trigger designer
A report writer
A form writer
Reports and forms can be based on stored procedures
The ability to make external windows call via the API
A code repository that can be called from reports and forms


> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu 
> [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Edis, Robert
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:25 PM
> To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
> 
> But is it a 4GL?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bruce@schuck.com [mailto:bruce@schuck.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:07 PM
> To: Robert.Edis@blistex.com
> Subject: Re: Is there a place for 4GLs anymore?
> 
> 
> Many will laugh, but if you have Office Pro on your desktop, 
> Access (2000 and up preferred) + SQL Server backend is a fast 
> development cycle.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 5 May 2003 14:44:52 -0500, "Edis, Robert" wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dear colleagues, two questions if I may?
> > 
> > 1. Is there a place for 4GLs in the IT industry anymore?  
> At least for 
> > independent products (i.e. excludes Oracle
> Developer). 
> > A good definition of
> > what a 4GL is might help.
> > 
> > 2. What are the products that compete in the 4GL
> market
> > space with
> > PowerHouse/Axiant?
> > 
> > In regards to the latter I know of:
> > 
> > Oracle Developer
> > Forte (has does this one compare to PH?) Speedware Progress
> > 
> > but I believe there are quite a few others.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Blue
> > 
> > 
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