HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India
Edis, Robert
Robert.Edis@blistex.com
Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:48:26 -0500
G'day all
Some further info on this gig and some of my own observations if you please.
I asked the following:
Q. Are the positions open only to candidates residing in the areas you
indicate? (Pune, Bangalore, Chennai)?
A. Positions are open to outside locations if they can relocate
A. Client deals indirectly with Defence - so Indians preferred!
Q. When you say that "Salaries are very competitive" what are you comparing
with, only those places above or globally?
A. Foremost reason cited by the client could also be .. the remuneration..
The average package offered are $800 (USD) - Rs. 40000 per month which
anyway would automatically mean that only Indian's can work for that salary
in India.
I would like to point out that in both the USA and Australia ONLY citizens
of those countries are allowed to work on defence related gigs. There are
rare exceptions but that is the rule. That includes directly working for
the DOD, government offices doing work related to the DOD (or even "Homeland
Security"), and private firms directly or indirectly working on DOD
projects. I received a postcard from Raytheon the other day that stated
specifically that I had to be a USA citizen to work for them.
Jon Hawks said "There are many American citizens out of work this day."
Name ONE country where this is not the case? The unemployment rate in the
USA is 6.1%. This might seem a lot to you but how about 16% in Germany or
40%+ in Botswana, both affluent nations. People in the USA directly and
indirectly exploit people in other nations to make their lives better but in
many cases make the economic situation in those other nations worse. The
USA can no more survive without its economic ties to the rest of the world
or without the continual inflow of fresh immigrants than a shark in a tide
pool.
How many Americans work in other countries?
I came to the USA for adventure at a time when my skills were in high
demand. I'm still here because I can't afford to leave, I have made so many
good friends - mainly American citizens - who don't want me to leave, and
because my skills are STILL in high demand. My gross income is higher than
average so I don't get my work by undercutting an US citizen, I contribute
in every way legally possible to this great nation and my local community,
and I thank all those kind and generous American friends who have made my
life here fulfilling.
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 AM
To: hawksj@yahoo.com; Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au;
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India
Hi!
I was told that the client is the Indian government. Do the other
governments also
restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather silly. You would think
that they
want the best people available working on their projects!
>From: "Jon \(Jarod\) Hawks" <hawksj@yahoo.com>
>To: "Olmos, Fernando \(Sericon at Alcoa\)" <Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au>,
>powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
>Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India
>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
>
>LMAO. Not to worry.
>
>There are many American citizens out of work this day.
>It's a sore issue now.
>
>--- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)"
><Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au> wrote:
> > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in the
> > middle of the night, I
> > will surely be in contact with you!
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM
> > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa);
> > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India
> > >
> > >
> > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to hear
> > > outsider viewpoints about American business. If
> > it's
> > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave
> > Americans
> > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify this
> > in
> > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but I'm
> > > forwarding this on to the listing service for the
> > news
> > > agencies and congress. I think this is most
> > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now about
> > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens.
> > Perhaps
> > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the
> > upcoming
> > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We
> > > encourage them in the US.
> > > It's everyone's right to do so.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)"
> > > <Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au> wrote:
> > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a bad
> > > > reputation for doing quite
> > > > the opposite!
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com
> > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM
> > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in
> > India
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but
> > are
> > > > they?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel
> > > > > <jerryh@psc-usa.com>@cube.swau.edu
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > pic25128.pcx)
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel
> > > > <jerryh@psc-usa.com>
> > > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: "Edis, Robert"
> > <Robert.Edis@blistex.com>,
> > > > "Powerh-L
> > > > > \\(E-mail\\)"
> > > > > <powerh-l@lists.swau.edu>, "Jon
> > \\(Jarod\\)
> > > > Hawks"
> > > > > <hawksj@yahoo.com>,
> > > > <powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu>
> > > > > cc:
> > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in
> > > > India
> > > > >
> > > > > Security Level:? Internal
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome to a global economy.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC
> > > > > President
> > > > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd.
> > > > > 847-719-1200 x221
> > > > > 847-445-0003 cell
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> > > > > http://www.psc-usa.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Life is change, growth is optional.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon \(Jarod\)
> > > > Hawks
> > > > > <hawksj@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that
> > > > need a
> > > > > >job can't get on because the positions are
> > manned
> > > > by
> > > > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this
> > job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" <Robert.Edis@blistex.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Dear Listers
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that
> > > > someone
> > > > > >> of you may find it
> > > > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes
> > across
> > > > as
> > > > > >> noise. I am NOT
> > > > > >> responsible for the content and do not know
> > > > anything
> > > > > >> about the original
> > > > > >> sender or the positions other than what is
> > > > written
> > > > > >> here.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Blue
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: India Jobs
> > [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com]
> > > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM
> > > > > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com
> > > > > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in
> > India
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Robert,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list ..
> > Can
> > > > you
> > > > > >> post for me please.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> *** 50 Positions Open ****
> > > > > >> JOB :
> > > > > >> -----
> > > > > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore,
> > Chennai.
> > > > > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5
> > > > company
> > > > > >> requires Software
> > > > > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000
> > > > mini-computer.
> > > > > >> All positions require
> > > > > >> Indian nationals.
> > > > > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved
> > in
> > > > > >> development and maintenance of
> > > > > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and
> > > > > >> documenting the product. You will
> > > > > >> also be responsible to contribute for
> > > > application
> > > > > >> migration to open systems.
> > > > > >> Client expects you to have at least 2
> > years
> > > > > >> experience with MPE/iX with
> > > > > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of
> > TurboImage
> > > > /
> > > > > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and
> > > > > >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics,
> > > > Powerhouse /
> > > > > >> Speedware / and latest
> >
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